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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Adding to the random book sperging. Anyone else come across books set in England clearly written by yanks. I can’t remember the title of the one I read but they all had names like Kale and I remember all the reviews were like wtf is up with all these Chav names. It was quite funny. At least do some basic research about anything in the UK before you set your book in it. Also things like Bridgerton is absolutely rife with its terrible yank influence.
 
I’ll never understand why the Conservatives didn’t make an effort to stop the migrant flow when they were already being draconian about Covid.
It would be conspiratorial to say they took advantage of COVID to drop the pretence and ship in as many as they could while people were distracted.

But that aside, the home office and foreign office were of generally the same mindset as Keith, inasmuch as a treaty to bring over millions had been signed with india, so it had to be obeyed, and the previous arrangements with the EU were in abeyance, so we had to comply with the black letter of international law and let in everyone who made it within sight of the coast.
 
Adding to the random book sperging. Anyone else come across books set in England clearly written by yanks. I can’t remember the title of the one I read but they all had names like Kale and I remember all the reviews were like wtf is up with all these Chav names. It was quite funny. At least do some basic research about anything in the UK before you set your book in it. Also things like Bridgerton is absolutely rife with its terrible yank influence.
As a Jock can I just say that Outlander has been a disaster for my country.
 
Unless they're outright abandoning it, the aim is to get money from remittances. Take the money being made in a better paying country you are working in and send it back to family members in the homeland to stimulate the economy there.

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Yep, that pretty much happens also in my country. It is not fair, but it seems the elites from the west don't care.
 
Watched some of the footage from the Unite The Kingdom thing yesterday - just completely embarrassing on every level. It's pointless, directionless and achieves nothing. It actually makes me hate the right just as much as I hate the left to see idiots like Laurence Fox and Tommy Robinson ranting onstage. They're so unrelatable and swarthy. Just awful people to be so visible and the face of the right. Kelly Jay Keen has got well above her station, just a huge embarrassment to herself and makes me seriously wonder if she stops to think about her family ever. Not a single person there that I thought had a single coherent idea or viewpoint.

Robinson and his followers will say that the "mainstream media" (even that makes me cringe myself inside out) ignored this even because they're scared. No, it's because it's puerile, badly organised and none of the people involved deserve the exposure.

If Lowe's policies were more serious I could get onboard with Restore, but the last time I looked it was all "an Englishman's home is his castle" messaging that just felt completely ridiculous to me. A lot of emotional rhetoric that would never translate into actual policies or action.

What do people think of the SDP? William Clouston seems to be vaguely credible at least?
 
Robinson and his followers will say that the "mainstream media" (even that makes me cringe myself inside out) ignored this even because they're scared. No, it's because it's puerile, badly organised and none of the people involved deserve the exposure.
What exactly are you expecting from these people?

They are always going to scream "we are not racist!" at all times, so nothing that touches on racial lines will ever be discussed. Its the same "if you come here legally, work, pay your taxes, thats fine. We fucking love non-whites, we love them so much, we want more of them, thats British, to have more and more non-whites who pay their taxes and abide by the law (somewhat)". Its the same story over and over again.

Its why I think a full on race war will happen, because no one wants to address the issues, and it will just continue to spiral out of control until outright war in the streets.
 
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an Englishman's home is his castle" messaging that just felt completely ridiculous to me. A lot of emotional rhetoric that would never translate into actual policies or action.
I read that as having something akin to the right to self defence/castle doctrine. And I DO think that’s positive because right now any defending yourself against being attacked or burgled or your kids groomed will result in YOU being punished.
The main figures on the right are not serious people, and that is a huge problem. But there’s clearly a huge groundswell of support for the general idea of getting things back a bit more like how they were - what will happen when someone genuinely able to speak, hold a crowd and with sufficient t self control comes along? If the state doesn’t sniff them out, they will gain a very large following
 
If Lowe's policies were more serious I could get onboard with Restore, but the last time I looked it was all "an Englishman's home is his castle" messaging that just felt completely ridiculous to me. A lot of emotional rhetoric that would never translate into actual policies or action.
Perhaps you should read their actual policies, rather than just the short-form marketing on twitter.
 
So, to add on to the further point of Zia and running for Makersfield. It is highly unlikely, as I have seen various stuff on Maggie Oliver, not running for MP. Oliver was their most likely successful pick. So they're going to pick Zia or a rando. They cannot really push pro-leave as a bunch of their cabinet in waiting have recanted their opinions on leaving.

Restore is announcing its candidate on Tuesday, meaning Reform has not long at all to go. We know from countless reports that Reforms canvassing is just awful. The Greens are not running to avoid eating into the Labour vote share.

This is going to be funny.
 


Controversial scenes erupted as counter-protesters sparked outrage with chants including: “Shoot him in the neck like Charlie Kirk.”The footage has gone viral online, with many condemning the rhetoric and arguing the counter-protest became just as controversial as the demonstration itself.

Wonder when our Two Tier PM is going to do something about this ? Who are the thugs again ?

Despite their thugish intentions, I still don't see one there that could punch their way out of a wet paper bag.
 
Some 'Make Labour Working Class Again' group has been popping up in the comments of Unite the Union and Burnham election posts. They are called Restoration, (X) (on twitter @leftrestoration) to add to the fucking confusion, and want to be voted onto (or is it 'into'? idk) the Labour NEC. What made me take notice is the call for a 'more sophisticated conversation on migration', so I wonder if they are more a more traditional socialist or pro-working class faction popping up at the same time as the leadership shit and Unite the Union going on about 'Labour has forgotten it represents the working class'. I will keep an eye on them.
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Current members are Peter Newman (train driver), Jake Croft (activistst), and a bunch of Greeks (or Cypriots?) in Andrew Achilleos (councillor), Stella Tsantekidou (worked with Bernie in America), and Sam Theodoridi (councillor).

Slightly old news but a Muslim woman has won her court case over the NHS making her share facilities with a TiM. (X) She cited both her 'trauma' and her faith and cleaning rituals as a reason why. The Telegraph quotes her as saying she has 'gender critical views'
A Muslim woman is in line for a payout from NHS England over a policy allowing transgender women to use female toilets.
The employee, who has not been named, was working at Quarry House in Leeds in 2017 when the body adopted policies that allowed her trans colleagues to use facilities corresponding with their gender identity, rather than their biological sex, once they achieved “full-time presentation… in the new gender role”.
Five years after the policy was implemented, the woman, who has post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and holds gender-critical beliefs, was asked to attend a “trans awareness session” when a colleague transitioned. This prompted her to complain formally.

The woman argued that NHS England indirectly discriminated against women, Muslim women, and women with PTSD caused by male sexual violence.
Because of her faith, the claimant considered it “improper” to expose most parts of her body to any man who is not her husband, the tribunal heard.
She also believes there is a religious obligation upon her to pray five times a day and that on some occasions she must perform a ritual ablution.

This requires her to be naked and wash her entire body, for which she would use a shower when in the workplace.
The judgment said: “She considers it particularly improper to be naked in the presence of any male who is not her husband.
“She required a changing room and showers in Quarry House for the purposes of exercise and, in line with the Claimant’s religious beliefs, these facilities were unsuitable.”
The woman feared that sharing a bathroom or changing facility with a man would put her at risk of sexual assault.

The tribunal heard that this fear was a symptom and a trigger of the woman’s PTSD.
She also holds gender-critical views that sex is a binary characteristic that is defined at birth and not capable of change.
She said: “I view my ‘gender-critical’ position as the middle ground where everyone’s rights are respected and accommodated. I do not care what a male wears for work as long as it is work appropriate.”
“However, it is not reasonable to allow men who say they are women and be allowed access to women’s spaces, prisons, categories for scholarships, sports or boards – their exclusion is the reasonable middle ground for the reasons of safety, dignity and comfort of women.”

She added that she rejects any suggestion that she is “transphobic” and does not object to sharing non-intimate spaces with trans people.
In a statement, the woman’s legal representatives Didlaw said they hoped the case would go “a significant way” to supporting the Supreme Court judgment in For Women Scotland, which found that in the Equality Act 2010 the terms “man”, “woman” and “sex” were always intended to refer to biological sex.
The law firm said it also hoped the judgment would put further pressure on the Government “to force all employers to comply with the law on biological sex and the provision of facilities and services”.
 
Harvard's Dumbarton Oaks Library have completed translating Ælfric's Old English homilies and writings. He hasn't been in regular print since 1844.
Old English Catholic Homilies Book 1 / Old English Catholic Homilies Book 2
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If anyone else is curious Harvard also translated Ælfric's Old English Lives of Saint's vols 1-3 Old English Lives of Saints, Volume I / Old English Lives of Saints, Volume II / Old English Lives of Saints, Volume III
Old English Lives of Saints, a series composed in the 990s by the Benedictine monk Aelfric in his distinctive alliterative prose, portrays an array of saints—including virgin martyrs, married virgins, aristocrats, kings, soldiers, and bishops—for a late Anglo-Saxon audience. At a turbulent time when England was under increasingly severe Viking attack, the examples of these saints modeled courageous faith, self-sacrifice, and individual and collective resistance. The Lives also covers topics as diverse as the four kinds of war, the three orders of society, and whether the unjust can be exempt from eternal punishment. Aelfric intended this series to complement his Catholic Homilies, two important and widely disseminated collections used for preaching to lay people and clergy. The translation is presented alongside a new edition of Lives of Saints, for which all extant manuscripts have been collated afresh.
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'Sixth generation in London'? What does that mean? Your great great great grandparents moved there I assume but I have never heard of anyone say that outside of immigration. I'm the god knows what generationth in where I live.
They're Indian. Even on Reddit, they talk about Caste and things like feeling proud that someone like Rishi Sunak, of Indian origin, can do well in the West. They consider their identity as being Indian, I think.
 


Also, I thought this interview was deeply weird. The upper-class posho agrees that she doesn't really have the lived experience of the lower classes who live in rough areas, and who might support the opposing protests, when just asked about her viewpoint normally.

But then you get the son(?) who's screaming Fuck the Nazis!

This happened near me last year. 22 blokes, I think they were from Eritrea or some other shithole, having a massive fight with machetes on a main road, in the middle of the day. I say 22, looking at that news story now, they're talking about over 200. I see reports like this around me so much,. Does the woman being interviewed have any concept of what it's like to live anywhere near where stuff like this happens? Does she just live deep in the western part of the city, surrounded by nice hedges and people driving Lambos?

 
I read that as having something akin to the right to self defence/castle doctrine. And I DO think that’s positive because right now any defending yourself against being attacked or burgled or your kids groomed will result in YOU being punished.
I read it more literally. I have started learning stone masonry to build myself a portcullis and a murder hole. Figure I should probably get the cannons part first. Just incase the council starts trying to fuck around with demanding planning permission or whatever woke nonsense.
counter-protesters
I know it's literally just because it's bullshit reddit logic wanting to be part of le new thingé but the palestine flags are just so fucking retarded. You bring a palestine flag to a counter protest which to me that says that you think the counter of that counter protest is pro israel which literally no one in that crowd other than fucking yannon laxey will give a shit about. It's just showing how fucking retarded these people are. Literally the twitter waffles meme but irl. You are fucking schizophrenic arguing with the voices in your head. Yea I'm going to show up to one of those protests with a Holy Roman Empire flag because I think that the liberals are slandering Frundsberg?

To me it just shows that these people don't have any actual opinions or group. They just all vaguely support the thing. They don't care or have any deep opinions on anything or have any morals or stand for anything. They just do the thing. And that's it. They're not against the ideas of yellow laxative's march, they are just against the idea of the right wing as a concept. It's not engaging with the opposition it's just screaming at them and derailing an actual conversation with inane bullshit. It's pathetic.
 
Controversial scenes erupted as counter-protesters sparked outrage with chants including: “Shoot him in the neck like Charlie Kirk.”
Unsurprising.

The Guardian naturally has no articles on this but try to claim the buffoon at the other protest is inciting violence.

The far-right activist Tommy Robinson told tens of thousands of supporters to prepare for the “battle of Britain” during a rally in London on Saturday.
Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, drew tens of thousands of supporters on to the streets of central London for the second year running in an event where Islamophobic and ethnonationalist hate speech and flyers were distributed to the crowds.

Organisers claimed that millions had attended his “unite the kingdom” march, but police estimated the number of demonstrators to be far lower, at about 60,000. Last September’s march was attended by 150,000 people.

Robinson, who gained prominence as the founder of the anti-Islam English Defence League, told crowds gathered in Parliament Square that the rally was “a turning point for Britain”.

He encouraged his supporters to move beyond street protest and “fighting” and become involved in local politics before the next general election.
The campaign group Hope Not Hate said that although the march appeared to have attracted fewer demonstrators than the previous rally, the scale of Robinson’s movement remained “deeply worrying”.
It added: “Today’s numbers still dwarf anything ever managed by the English Defence League and hundreds of thousands more watched the livestream online. While it looks like the movement’s growth may have stalled, it still remains a significant threat.”
The Metropolitan police said it had spent £4.5m policing the march and a separate pro-Palestinian demonstration which ended in Waterloo. There were about 4,000 officers on duty. Armoured vehicles, dogs, drones and helicopters were also deployed throughout the afternoon.
The force said that, as of 4.30pm, it had made 31 arrests across both events. It said it would “provide a more detailed breakdown” when the marches had concluded.
A spokesperson added: “While this may seem high, to this point both protests have proceeded largely without significant incident.”
Two men were arrested near Euston station after arriving in London to attend the Unite the Kingdom rally. One was wanted on suspicion of grievous bodily harm after an incident in Birmingham where a man was run over. The second was arrested in connection with a separate offence, which involved encouraging people to attack a police officer.
The protests had a significant Christian theme with many protesters who marched to Parliament Square carrying wooden crosses and chanting “Christ is king” as they waited for the march to begin. Others wore red “make England great again” hats.

Addressing the crowd, Robinson said: “Are you ready for the battle of Britain? 2029 we have an election. We’re not asking anyone to go out and fight, but this is the most important moment in our generation.
“If we don’t send a message in our next election, if you don’t register to vote, if you don’t get involved, if you don’t become activists, we are going to lose our country for ever.
“We have to get political, we have to get involved. I’m not going to tell you which political party you need to join. We’re a cultural movement. I’m going to tell you that you have to join a political party. I don’t care if it’s Reform, if it’s Advance, or it’s Restore, or it’s the Conservative party. We have to locally get involved in politics.”
Robinson also led chants of support for the X owner, Elon Musk, one of his best-known supporters. He said: “None of this would have happened if it wasn’t for one man. Thank you Elon on behalf of Great Britain.”
The rally was also addressed by Siobhan Whyte, whose daughter Rhiannon was murdered by the Sudanese asylum seeker Deng Majek during an attack at the hotel where she worked in Walsall, West Midlands, in 2024. Majek was jailed for life in January.
Whyte said: “Keir Starmer, where do I even begin to discuss this abhorrent excuse of a leader of our country? He has failed us. He has failed my daughter Rhiannon. I believe she [would] still be alive today if this disgusting excuse of a man had not been in control.”
The Polish politician Dominik Tarczyński, who claimed to have been banned from entering the UK by Starmer before the rally, addressed the crowds via video link. He said: “He could ban me. He will not cancel you. And believe me, there will be a day I will be back.”
The government is understood to have blocked 11 foreign nationals – described by Starmer as “far-right agitators” – from entering the UK before the rally.

Katie Hopkins, the former Apprentice contestant turned far-right commentator, also sent a video message to the demonstrators. She said: “I want to thank you all for being at the ‘unite the kingdom’ rally today. Whether you’re here in London or joining us from overseas, welcome to Great Britain.
“I want to say a few things to you, if I may. I see you, and I see our capital city, and it looks for the first time in a very long time like the place that I remember, and our capital city and a place that we can all call home, and I’m so proud of you.”
Some demonstrators distributed flyers saying they wanted to secure “a future for white people”. The leaflet said: “In a country saturated with degenerates, grifters and imported political enemies … We are a brotherhood of White Europeans who share the same values.” It added that anyone could join their “vanguard” and they could remain anonymous.
Writing on X on Saturday, the justice secretary, David Lammy, said: “The Unite the Kingdom march organisers are spreading hatred and division. They do not reflect the Britain I’m proud of.
“Peaceful protest is a fundamental right and one I will always protect. But if protest turns violent, we will act swiftly, with extra court capacity in place.”
The campaign group Led by Donkeys said it put up a giant screen at the rally which played a video with the slogan: “Immigration makes Britain brilliant.”
 
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Also, I thought this interview was deeply weird. The upper-class posho agrees that she doesn't really have the lived experience of the lower classes who live in rough areas, and who might support the opposing protests, when just asked about her viewpoint normally.

But then you get the son(?) who's screaming Fuck the Nazis!

This happened near me last year. 22 blokes, I think they were from Eritrea or some other shithole, having a massive fight with machetes on a main road, in the middle of the day. I say 22, looking at that news story now, they're talking about over 200. I see reports like this around me so much,. Does the woman being interviewed have any concept of what it's like to live anywhere near where stuff like this happens? Does she just live deep in the western part of the city, surrounded by nice hedges and people driving Lambos?

Her child needs a damn good hiding. As does she. Where's it's Father? (Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha).
 
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