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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Otterly]

I lived in the US for a year, and yeah; it definitely is ha. The desire to leave the UK is purely economic. If I could afford to, I'd live down the street from my parents (thankfully not in Brum anymore). There's nowhere else I'd rather be.

I hope you get it. Things are too difficult these days. It’s almost impossible to live and buy a house just by yourself.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

I'm so fucking sick of the 'will they, won't they' shit with the assisted dying bill. I could probably count the amount of locked in permaspazz'd people with the capability of expressing the ability to die on one hand. If you want to die then fucking do it. Waiting for it to be legal is genuinely pathetic as why the absolute fuck would you care if it's legal or not or the consequences of what comes after if you're fucking dead?

I could pop to Tesco right now and there's like 20 things off the top of my head that could kill me tonight. How the absolute fuck are people so wet that they can't just do it themselves? It'll hurt? You'll be dead forever you fucking mong.

 

[Otterly]

I'm so fucking sick of the 'will they, won't they' shit with the assisted dying bill. I could probably count the amount of locked in permaspazz'd people with the capability of expressing the ability to die on one hand. If you want to die then fucking do it. Waiting for it to be legal is genuinely pathetic as why the absolute fuck would you care if it's legal or not or the consequences of what comes after if you're fucking dead?

I could pop to Tesco right now and there's like 20 things off the top of my head that could kill me tonight. How the absolute fuck are people so wet that they can't just do it themselves? It'll hurt? You'll be dead forever you fucking mong.

It’s not about that though. Anyone vaguely able bodied can kill themselves, it’s about the state having a sanctioned way of killing off the people the deem useless. Just look at Canada. It’s now one of the leading causes of death, and abused terribly. It was never about a 98 year old couple wanting to go out together or someone in terrible pain wanting dignity.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I'm so fucking sick of the 'will they, won't they' shit with the assisted dying bill. I could probably count the amount of locked in permaspazz'd people with the capability of expressing the ability to die on one hand. If you want to die then fucking do it. Waiting for it to be legal is genuinely pathetic as why the absolute fuck would you care if it's legal or not or the consequences of what comes after if you're fucking dead?

I could pop to Tesco right now and there's like 20 things off the top of my head that could kill me tonight. How the absolute fuck are people so wet that they can't just do it themselves? It'll hurt? You'll be dead forever you fucking mong.

The assisted dying thing is more to cover the people who helped you kill yourself. If you give Granny too many pills and she dies did you murder her or did you help her do her plan all along? It's the grey area where you can use it for murder that's the problem they can't sort. How do you tell assisted suicide (which is a good thing) from overdosing your Granny to get her silver (a bad thing)?

You can go to the shop and get yourself ways to die but then your family will be dragged through the mud by the police.

 

[Otterly]

It's the grey area where you can use it for murder that's the problem they can't sort. How do you tell assisted suicide (which is a good thing) from overdosing your Granny to get her silver (a bad thing)?

Yeah I get that. But it raises more problems than it solves to me. Just look at the MAID stories we’ve had this week alone.

 

[the rat]

and saying we should bomb the curry house down the road.

I mean, we should.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I mean, we should.

Imagine the smell though.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

I don't think a man who cannot pronounce his r's without sounding like he's going to tell me about how he was the teacher's most hard working student in the DSP and got a gold star for not going outside the lines when colouring in would be particularly interested in looking at boobies.

sorry i thought this was about the erverrlord for a second.

Royal Navy forces Russian ship out of British waters
Wildcat helicopter pursues Sinegorsk after it anchors near crucial undersea cables in Bristol Channel

A Russian ship has been chased out of British waters by a Royal Navy attack helicopter after anchoring over transatlantic data cables.
The cargo vessel Sinegorsk sailed into the Bristol Channel on Tuesday night and appeared to have anchored about two miles off Minehead, on the north coast of Somerset.
Sinegorsk’s mooring location was less than a mile from undersea telecoms cables connecting Britain to the US, Canada, Spain and Portugal. Officials ordered the ship to leave British waters after the Russians claimed they were making essential safety repairs.
After 14 hours, an RN Wildcat helicopter was dispatched from the naval air station at Yeovilton, Somerset – prompting the Russian crew to raise anchor and sail back out to sea.
Alicia Kearns, the shadow security minister, said: “The movements of this Russian ship are deeply suspicious. [It is a] reminder of the persistent and pernicious threats our country faces from Putin and his allies.”
Sinegorsk’s last recorded call at a port was three weeks ago at Arkhangelsk – a major trading hub that is also the headquarters of the Russian navy’s Northern Fleet.
Data from MarineTraffic showed the cargo ship sailing up the Bristol Channel on Tuesday night and coming to a halt about two nautical miles off Minehead at about 11pm. It remained stationary, suggesting it was anchored, until about 2pm on Wednesday.
Within three quarters of a mile of Sinegorsk’s location were five undersea data cables. Two of those form the TGN Atlantic cable system, connecting Britain to New York.
Another, EXA Express, links the UK to Nova Scotia in Canada, a global telecoms meeting point. The remaining two, forming the VSNL Western Europe cable network, connect Spain and Portugal to the UK.
Aircraft-tracking websites showed that a Coastguard surveillance aeroplane, registered G-HMGC, spent about half an hour circling the Sinegorsk on Wednesday morning.
‘We are acutely aware of the threat posed by Russia’
A Wildcat helicopter, flying under the call sign Talon 1, took off from Royal Naval Air Station Yeovilton at about 1.30pm on Wednesday, about half an hour before the Sinegorsk’s departure.
Wildcats can be armed with up to four Sea Venom anti-ship missiles or Sting Ray torpedoes. It is not known whether the helicopter used in this operation was armed.
Sinegorsk is not specifically sanctioned by the UK, nor is it believed to be part of the Russian shadow fleet used for evading sanctions.
Around 500 Russia-related shadow fleet oil and gas tankers have been sanctioned by Britain in efforts to degrade Vladimir Putin’s ability to continue fighting the war against Ukraine. Officials estimate that around 200 ships have been forced off seas – around half of Russia’s tanker capacity.
Russian ships have previously been linked to attempts to interfere with undersea infrastructure.
The crew of a Russian tanker, Fitburg, were arrested by Finnish authorities in December after undersea cables between Helsinki and Tallinn were damaged as their ship passed over them.
Earlier in the year, Yantar, a Russian cable-tapping vessel, entered British waters and prompted a surveillance operation at sea by the Royal Navy. John Healey, the Defence Secretary, told Parliament: “Let me be clear, this is a spy ship.”

If Putin really did simplify the tax system for Ruskies, then let him take over the UK.

 

[FedPostalService]

If Putin really did simplify the tax system for Ruskies, then let him take over the UK.

It’s easy to simplify things if you just shoot people in the back of the head who say it’s complicated.

 

[Overly Serious]

Royal Navy forces Russian ship out of British waters

The government was worried it might sell us some cheap gas and Brits would be able to heat their homes!

Our neighbours in the EU have just dug themselves even deeper into an energy hole this past week with a new gas ban in law which is different to the various sanctions so far. Big new fines for anyone buying "Indian" oil that is just Russian oil with a cow stamped on it and some Mumbai mark-up. EU companies are now on notice to fill out yet more forms about their energy sources and find alternate suppliers. So between this and an obsession with wind power, the EU is now even more critically dependent on the USA for oil. Which is charging them appropriately. At this point, Trump could just threaten to turn off their light switches and they'd give him Greenland. Relevance to Britain is that one of our own big gas supply contracts is coming up for renewal. And the suppliers still has Russian connections. We've imported billions of pounds worth of Russian oil products since we started sanctioning them. It just comes in via other routes. But looks like we might end up in the same US-dependent situation as the EU going forward. What happens when there's only one supplier for something you need? Well, there you go.

A president who puts your nation first is great if you're in that nation, and I respect that. But, we are not American. Why, some of us (they claim) don't even eat nachos!

It’s easy to simplify things if you just shoot people in the back of the head who say it’s complicated.

Our tax is complicated. You don't shoot the ones who say that, you shoot the ones who make it so.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Can Royal Mail die? I've been waiting on a package. 48 hour delivery. Stuck in London for two days. Meant to be delivered today. Nothing. Can it just be killed? It's fucking useless.

At least with the post office, your package does eventually arrive. The number of parcels I've seen DPD or Evri deliver to the wrong place (on their handy dandy app, no less) is ridiculous. This is assuming they just don't lose it completely.

Relevance to Britain is that one of our own big gas supply contracts is coming up for renewal. And the suppliers still has Russian connections. We've imported billions of pounds worth of Russian oil products since we started sanctioning them. It just comes in via other routes. But looks like we might end up in the same US-dependent situation as the EU going forward. What happens when there's only one supplier for something you need? Well, there you go.

And to think, if Cameron hadn't blocked development of our own on-shore gas fields 15 years ago, we'd have the cheapest energy prices in Europe and would be a net exporter of the stuff. Instead, we have millipede doing his best to make sure we're as energy-fragile as Germany without even their lignite power plants as backup.

 

[MrJokerRager]

This is art.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Maybe I'm just getting fed up with every racist I meet having an Asian wife, a Paki best mate and only buying stuff from Amazon and Tesco.

This has really rattled you, hasn't it?

I grew up in an area that was 90% white. By the time I hit teenager, the town was 50/50 and that's no joke. We were bombarded with every flavour of migrant from yugoslavian refugee to bangladeshi street shitter. We had every flavour of african, chink and muslim injected into our town at a rate I never want to see again. When I left at 18, it was 80% brownoid, with a 60% muslim and 20% african split.
From that, you got to know a lot about a lot. Not just what you read on gbnews or reddit, but the reality of the situation from immigration - told to you by the people who went through it, to how they claim for money that whitey doesn't even know about.

The benefits and loopholes that the pakis know is incredible. Get friendly with a paki dr and he can get you anything or forge documents like covid jabs (I never did, a friend did so he could travel stateside).
The paki mate is more of a colleague - i didn't think anyone would get autistic over the designation.

If I could hit a big button and deport them all tomorrow, I would smash that shit until my fingers bled. Am I going to ignore a valuable resource and track of information? No, because I'm not a mong.

I do chuckle reading this thread sometimes though, because the panic and horror that most posters - who I assume have always lived in nice, white-majority villages, are facing over recent months is something that has happened for decades, they're only just now catching up.

Just wait until you see what's coming down the pipeline.

 

[FedPostalService]

Why are you all arguing with the policeman? Do you think anything you say will change his opinion of you?

 

[Duane Dibbley]

But no for real I'm hitting a point now where in the next 5 years I need to really crunch the numbers and decide if I'm staying in the UK. From a quick taste test of wages, career progression, and housing costs; I'm leading very much towards "No."

Have you tried NZ? It's like the bermuda triangle for ex-pats.

Living abroad is quite difficult. Don’t underestimate how different other cultures are, even ones that speak languages you understand.

On the flip side, some of those cultures just want to farm, exist peacefully and enjoy life. Rejecting modernity and embracing the Amish-ness is easy to find.

Why are you all arguing with the policeman? Do you think anything you say will change his opinion of you?

Same reason I tease the chimps at Chester Zoo; it's funny to see the reaction.

Or should I have said, "we're not arguing with you, ha ha ha ha hurr durr".

 

[Made In Wales]

Same here, Duane, though thankfully my area is still majority White with some Latinos (Italians).

Plaid have been doing their usual 'we are the nice party' BS today, but how well do you know the Party of Wales, its history and what it really stands for?

Thanks to Stan Robinson (not the truck company, but rather the real Voice of Wales) you can now know:

PLAID CYMRU AND THE AUTHORITARIAN INSTINCT.

Plaid Cymru would like the Welsh public to believe it is a harmless, progressive pressure group — a party of poets, placards and virtue.

History says otherwise.

From its earliest intellectual foundations, Plaid Cymru has displayed a recurring authoritarian instinct: a suspicion of democracy, a hostility to the British constitutional order, and a troubling willingness to excuse or engage with illiberal regimes — provided they were anti-British.

This is not polemic. It is pattern.

Saunders Lewis: Culture Over Liberty

Plaid’s founding ideologue, Saunders Lewis, was no democrat in the tradition of Churchill or Attlee. He rejected mass democracy, distrusted capitalism, and viewed parliamentary Britain as decadent and illegitimate. His vision of Wales was hierarchical, moralistic, and governed by cultural elites — not voters.

During the Spanish Civil War, while others recognised Franco for what he was — a fascist dictator — Lewis adopted a posture of moral neutrality that aligned neatly with Franco’s cause. Anti-communism, Catholic corporatism, suppression of trade unions: these were not red lines for Plaid’s intellectual core. Liberal democracy was.

Plaid was not fascist — but it was never firmly anti-fascist either.

Nationalism Without Safeguards

Inter-war European nationalism did not just produce flags and folk songs. It produced National Socialism, corporatism, and the belief that nations are redeemed by discipline rather than consent. Plaid Cymru’s early writings echo this continental mood: the nation elevated above the individual, democracy treated as a weakness, and Britain cast as the eternal oppressor.

Welsh nationalism, in Plaid’s hands, was never anchored to the constitution traditions that protect liberty. That omission matters.

The IRA Apologists

Fast forward to the late twentieth century and the same moral blindness reappears. Plaid Cymru repeatedly showed indulgence — and at times open sympathy — toward Sinn Féin and the IRA. Terrorism was softened into “context”. Murder became “understandable”. British victims were an inconvenience.

The bombings were regrettable, of course — but the British state was always more to blame.
Again, the rule applied: violence is tolerable when aimed at Britain.

Dictators Are Acceptable if They’re Useful

Plaid officials willingly engaged with Gaddafi’s Libya in the 1970s — a regime already known for repression, terrorism, and subversion. Allegations of Libyan funding remain disputed, but the moral failure is not. Plaid saw no problem courting a tyrant so long as he opposed the UK.

This was not an anomaly. It was continuity.

The Through-Line

From Franco to the IRA to Gaddafi, the same instinct recurs:

Britain is the villain

Authority is preferable to pluralism

Illiberal allies are excusable

Democracy is conditional

Modern Plaid wraps itself in fashionable causes, but the underlying posture remains unchanged: grievance nationalism untethered from constitutional restraint.

Wales deserves better than a party whose moral compass points not to liberty, but to whoever weakens Britain.

History matters. Patterns matter. And Plaid Cymru’s record speaks for itself.

Stan Robinson, Voice of Wales'

(Also, please don't share this video of Loony Leanne from Penygraig
https://www.facebook.com/reel/702333082424221 )

 

[Kofi Drinka]

The benefits and loopholes that the pakis know is incredible. Get friendly with a paki dr and he can get you anything or forge documents like covid jabs (I never did, a friend did so he could travel stateside).

You're basically admitting you mingle with the rape gangs at this point Mate. Just fucking stop. I don't live in a small village away from the decline. I've watched it happen around me in real time. I will still walk an extra 5 minutes to not buy from a paki shop. It's not funny.

 

[FedPostalService]

Franco killed more fascists than the Republicans did. He has an authoritarian catholic conservative and as soon as they didn’t serve a purpose he had the Falangists arrested and a lot didn’t live much longer.

Franco was pretty based for a pape.

Also, don’t get me started on people not knowing what corporatism means because they mistranslate it from Italian to English and run with their own definition of it.

 

[geckogoy]

The average man on the street is not delusional nor retarded. He can see the same problems as you or I but doesn't see a way to solve it. He is the spitting image of you and you think he's retarded because he hasn't acted yet. But you haven't acted yet either

Try talking to them about it and get back to me on how well your assumptions about whats going on in their head hold up

 

[Quintex96]

Try talking to them about it and get back to me on how well your assumptions about whats going on in their head hold up

Woah buddy it's after 6pm, don't make him work overtime.