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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[>IMPLYING]

I've too much baggage, leave it to Otterly. Might give the country the first non-Tory female PM too

And first non-human. Ticks a few boxes.

 

[BongoMongo]

If anyone wants some comfy viewing as a respite to current fuckshow,they have all the old episodes of Taggart to stream in Channel 5.

It's ducking excellent and I defy anyone to hear "there's been ah muurrrrrdurrrrrr" without laughing.

Also that old Scottish TV ident gave me a massive dose of nostalgia.

 

[anklyscr]

It's basically "fuck you, got mine."

See the bird from the green tards who wants to bring in all the doctors and engineers[yes she did the meme] who didn't want the dirty browns near her house

also I want Defence or Energy in this farms Government
and Ghost tits obvs

 

[BongoMongo]

See the bird from the green tards who wants to bring in all the doctors and engineers[yes she did the meme] who didn't want the dirty browns near her house

also I want Defence or Energy in this farms Government
and Ghost tits obvs

That one down in Wealden in Sussex? Aye that cunt is desperate to keep a grip of the wee bit of power she's had a taste of. Her constituents don't want it and who can blame them.

 

[The Crack Spiders Bitch]

If Britain could dump its rapists and molesters and unemployably stupid on some country that was naive enough

 

[Duane Dibbley]

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full of indians by the news stories I've read.
How are you not housing them in the outback and feeding them to snakes/spiders/crocs/land sharks/roos and dingos?

 

[The Crack Spiders Bitch]

full of indians by the news stories I've read.

Name one Western country that isn't.
The jeet infestation is everywhere.

How are you not housing them in the outback and feeding them to snakes/spiders/crocs/land sharks/roos and dingos?

We have a very weak government that uses immigration to hide that the economy is in recession.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Name one Western country that isn't.
The jeet infestation is everywhere.

Do the baltics count?

We have a very weak government that uses immigration to hide that the economy is in recession.

Name a western country that isn't. You guys have at least got deniability if 1,000,000 indians disappear in the outback because "it's straya, cunt".

 

[BongoMongo]

Do the baltics count?

Name a western country that isn't. You guys have at least got deniability if 1,000,000 indians disappear in the outback because "it's straya, cunt".

Dingoes ate mah pajeet...

 

[The Crack Spiders Bitch]

Do the baltics count?

https://indians.ee/

You guys have at least got deniability if 1,000,000 indians disappear in the outback because "it's straya, cunt"

Have you seen how Indians live? They can survive the harshest of conditions.

However, they do have one natural predator:

 

[Mound Dweller]

A more effective way to do it would be a Nordic model esque approach where you punish the men instead

Nordic model works well on paper but practicality wise? Very controversial, despite having years of precious data there's nothing resembling consensus and I don't it, stinks of ideology too much. It also has the unfortunate unintended consequence of putting the wahmens in a gilded cage of virtue, it's legal guardianship redefined, all sorts of unpleasant implications if you follow it's logic all the way.
It's all symptom treating anyway and therefore a waste of time; the animals have developed a dependency, if you stop feeding them it'll take care of itself.

Go back to the Beauty Parlour. This is the Greggs thread for the brave lions of Islam who reside in Bongistan.

We shall have no, and may Allah forgive me for saying this, “women” pollute the purity of our thread with their menstrual blood.

yas saar there is being no GORLS here sar i am f agreeisngs mucho buneo my good sar we are not of allowing the cooties saar!
Stop being Black, you Bastard.

Tax breaks for married couples

STOP MAKING IT A MONEY THING
People don't have kids not because "they can't afford it", rather that they lack the requisite social status to feel secure, it's all in the feels.
Money is not the object; it is the echo of the actual problem, which is a combination of carrying capacity meeting shit-life-syndrome. I hate money I hate money I hate money I hate money I hate money I hate money I hate money.

 

[PandaChai]

bring childcare costs down

I was looking after my nephew well first cousin once removed, but I'm called Uncle Pandachai and my cousin's like a sibling to me, </pl> and his mum was telling me how in their rundown arse-end-of-nowhere town to have him in nursery for the just three days a week her & her husband's work schedules line up poorly it would cost £900 a month. It's significantly more cost effective for her to just not work those day each week. Thankfully we're a close knit group of friends & family so there's almost always someone who can look after the little rascal, but I was just gobsmacked.

 

[Palantir]

I was looking after my nephew well first cousin once removed, but I'm called Uncle Pandachai and my cousin's like a sibling to me, </pl> and his mum was telling me how in their rundown arse-end-of-nowhere town to have him in nursery for the just three days a week her & her husband's work schedules line up poorly it would cost £900 a month. It's significantly more cost effective for her to just not work those day each week. Thankfully we're a close knit group of friends & family so there's almost always someone who can look after the little rascal, but I was just gobsmacked.

Yeah that cost is pretty common.

It's due to regulations as they restrict how many children you can look after at a time so these people get shit pay because on top of costs of running the place they are only getting like £500 a month per child if that and they can only look after 3-4 children per worker.

See: https://assets.publishing.service.g...file/219660/More_20Great_20Childcare_20v2.pdf

 

[FedPostalService]

Nordic model works well on paper but practicality wise? Very controversial, despite having years of precious data there's nothing resembling consensus and I don't it, stinks of ideology too much. It also has the unfortunate unintended consequence of putting the wahmens in a gilded cage of virtue, it's legal guardianship redefined, all sorts of unpleasant implications if you follow it's logic all the way.
It's all symptom treating anyway and therefore a waste of time; the animals have developed a dependency, if you stop feeding them it'll take care of itself.

This! The Nordic model sounds nice but doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. It works perfectly if you ignore all the dead women (which the Nordic countries do as it tends to be the poor ones the Nordic model kills and they’ve got far less poor than us.)

 

[Mound Dweller]

This! The Nordic model sounds nice but doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. It works perfectly if you ignore all the dead women (which the Nordic countries do as it tends to be the poor ones the Nordic model kills and they’ve got far less poor than us.)

Indeed, prostitution isn't something that can be just decriminalized without consequences, there's always a market for human flesh and cutting half the liability only results in a bigger market gap as seen by the surge in human trafficking literally everywhere it's tried. It simply falls utterly on it's face when confronted with the BROWN reality of current year, case in point being the recent disaster of the Leeds red light district (inb4 but it wasn't REAL decriminalisation!).

It's also very interdasting how opposition to it is all across the spectrum; chuds h8 it for clear and obvious reasons (HOOORES) but radfems do also because of the legal guardianship undertones I mentioned (sex "work" ), the fact that everyone h8s it (who even openly advocates it other than middle aged TERFs?) suggests to me it must be trying to do something right at least.
IMO if they just treated it with the same vigour as they do parking tickets the issue would fade away regardless of specific approach.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I think the whole 'slags having kids by ten baby daddies!' and 'Women are innocent victims of the EVIL PENIS!' are both wrong. I think that some people are always going to have kids with random men, and shaming them won't stop that and never really did. Back when we just let children and single mothers starve to death in the gutter, it just resulted in gangs of feral children robbing people at knife point. That happened on such a massive scale that we had to literally ship them by the boatload out to random countries to stem the tide a little bit.

I don't really know what to do about it, except to say the old adage of 'strong families, strong communities, etc, etc, etc' that everyone already knows. Even there though you had one or two women who were known to be easy, and to have had lots of kids by wrong'uns. Short of some revolutionary new social structure - We'll call it the New Chunky Man! and the New Salsa Woman! - where you re-order how men and women interact, you're not getting away from the reality that men and women like to have sex with each other. They especially like doing it over and over again if they find a type of man or woman they like, which inevitably results in babies.

Indeed, prostitution isn't something that can be just decriminalized without consequences, there's always a market for human flesh and cutting half the liability only results in a bigger market gap as seen by the surge in human trafficking literally everywhere it's tried. It simply falls utterly on it's face when confronted with the BROWN reality of current year, case in point being the recent disaster of the Leeds red light district (inb4 but it wasn't REAL decriminalisation!).

It's also very interdasting how opposition to it is all across the spectrum; chuds h8 it for clear and obvious reasons (HOOORES) but radfems do also because of the legal guardianship undertones I mentioned (sex "work" ), the fact that everyone h8s it (who even openly advocates it other than middle aged TERFs?) suggests to me it must be trying to do something right at least.
IMO if they just treated it with the same vigour as they do parking tickets the issue would fade away regardless of specific approach.

In terms of hookers, I actually cannot think of a worse system than what the UK has. If you're a hooker you go to yourself "Right, I'll have to work with other women to make sure we're all safe, and have a safe location to work from!" The UK government goes 'bzzzzt wrong whore! That's a brothel, illegal!'. So you go "Okay, I'll make sure I work with a man/men who can protect me!" and the UK government goes 'bzzzzt wrong again whore! That's a pimp, illegal!". So you go "Fine, I'll at least make sure my landlord knows what I do, so they can know I may be at risk.", again 'bzzzt wrong!'.

Which results in the only truly legal way to be a prostitute in the UK, being that you must live alone with no one else around you, while inviting strange unvetted men into your home so you can then get naked with them behind closed doors and no one else knows what's happening. It's literally battery farming serial killer victims, shit's insane.

 

[ApeBass]

People don't have kids not because "they can't afford it", rather that they lack the requisite social status to feel secure, it's all in the feels.

It is a status issue in as far as becoming a mother now leads to a loss of status, particularly if she chooses to stay home and raise her children over being a girl boss. When fewer women have children, the more isolating it is as well. My first school friend to have a child (aged 28!) felt ashamed to admit to us that she wasn't going to go back to work.

I have another friend in her 80s who describes life on a new-build 60s estate, all her neighbours were having children at the same time and would offer each other support and friendship. I rarely see children playing outside anymore, let alone mothers pushing prams up the highstreet. Raising children is a lonely business for a woman who doesn't want to go back to work.

 

[Mound Dweller]

In terms of hookers, I actually cannot think of a worse system than what the UK has. If you're a hooker you go to yourself "Right, I'll have to work with other women to make sure we're all safe, and have a safe location to work from!" The UK government goes 'bzzzzt wrong whore! That's a brothel, illegal!'. So you go "Okay, I'll make sure I work with a man/men who can protect me!" and the UK government goes 'bzzzzt wrong again whore! That's a pimp, illegal!". So you go "Fine, I'll at least make sure my landlord knows what I do, so they can know I may be at risk.", again 'bzzzt wrong!'.

It's all the worst type of legal obstinance and if it were not for all the dead people HOOOOOORES it'd almost make you proud to be bri'ish innit.
It's nasty and it's dirty and it's morally wrong but if it were something you had to have a loicense for and pay National Insurance on it'd be a lot a less bad, just imagine the full force of the borough council coming down on spazzy larry for not paying his hookin' tax it'd be glorious.

It is a status issue in as far as becoming a mother now leads to a loss of status, particularly if she chooses to stay home and raise her children over being a girl boss.

Yes exactly it's all about where it leaves you; no wonder nobody wants to have kids when you're left objectively worse off by every measure. Spawning the next generation used to be investment now it's only ever deadweight, fixing that is where the priory should lie not in patching the gaping cracks with the sellotape of more gibs.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

It's all the worst type of legal obstinance and if it were not for all the dead people HOOOOOORES it'd almost make you proud to be bri'ish innit.

I'm going to break from my usual tirade of 'hate foreigns, kill em all' to argue that it's probably because most of the hookers being abused, murdered, raped and robbed are foreign. We have in the UK, a centralised prostitute website where women advertise their phone number, pictures and rough address; and pretty much all of them are foreign. There are far less English women working the second oldest trade in the world than there are foreign women. So no one really cares.

They probably wouldn't care if it was English women being abused for sure, but they care even less when it's Svetlana, Mei Ling, and Juanita being abused, since they can't even speak the language enough to complain.

Also the police are 100% using the hookers so it's a real bitch to enforce laws on prostitution. It very quickly turns into a real life porno scene where Office McPacking says "There's definitely another way we can work this out..." to Ming Lee the barely legal FOB from inland China, who assumes that every man around her sees her as a living fleshlight, because that's literally all she's ever known. I wonder even if half the women trafficked to the UK, even know it's illegal to be trafficked and that they can in fact complain about it.

EDIT: It's. Fucking. Cold! I work at a fairly high altitude, on a nearly completely flat site and I am freezing my balls off waiting for these GAY NIGGER sensors to actually update!

 

[Duane Dibbley]

UK net migration 20% lower in 2024 than first thought, ONS says

Good news? Less people coming in? Nope. More people leaving.

The number, the difference between those entering and leaving the country, has been revised down by 86,000 people and now stands at 345,000 arriving in 2024.

The driving factor behind the change is that more British nationals are thought to have emigrated in 2024 than initially recorded, with 100,000 fewer now thought to be living in the UK.

Migration peaked higher than previously thought, according to the figures, adding 944,000 to the UK population between April 2022 and March 2023. Previous estimates put the number at 906,000 by June 2023.

The new figures make little change to the overall estimate of net migration to the UK between 2021 and 2024, falling slightly from 2.6 million people to 2.5 million in the revised report.

That's 2.5million people coming in minus the 1 million that left. So more than 3.5 million browns entered in 3 years.

Officials at the ONS said the new figures are based on how often people appear in tax and benefits records, providing a more accurate and active reflection of migrants activities in the UK.

Based on that method, the ONS now thinks that 257,000 British nationals left the UK in 2024 while 143,000 Britons living abroad returned. That means net emigration of Britons - the difference between departures and arrivals - is 114,000 people, rather than its initial estimate of 17,000.

TL;DR - they have no idea how many people still live here because those leaving the UK aren't declaring they've left, they're just leaving on a different method other than a British Passport, living on savings and making no tax/benefit claims.

TL'DR- TL;DR- fudged numbers to make migration look not as bad, while admitting the numbers of people leaving is disastrous.

Think about the Brits who are leaving, they're generally higher earners who can afford to move abroad and are, generally speaking, on the higher tax bracket.

We're swapping 1 million higher tax payers (let alone what business they own) for 3.5 million benefit drains. The 3.5 million are those that can be counted as coming through legally or staying in the system. Anyone with eyes who isn't living in a posh country village can see that there are way, way more migrants in the past 5 years than the official numbers tell us.