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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Heinrich Maneuver said:
'there are offences there we need to explore,'
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Why are you 'exploring' the offences after arresting someone? That to me sounds like they didn't like something he said and are now trying to find other crimes or other ways to brand him as an illegal racismer. If you arrest someone you should arrest them for what they have done. You should not have to explore those actions, they are either crimes or they are not. Also arresting someone over that in particular is fucking retarded as shit. It reminds me of the way that fbi agents send child porn to paedophiles and arrest them for it so they can say they have caught a massive amount of paedophiles possessing illegal material and all that shit. They want to arrest a shit load of people so they can justify an increase in what would be branded as anti online terrorism monitoring whatever, they create a problem, they inflate the numbers of it, then they use that as a justification for more human rights violations. That or they just want to get this guy's name out there and have him live in the fear that all the fucking violent immigrants he hates now know his name, face and location.

Here's an idea though. You know that reddit against hate subs or whatever it's called? You know how half of the people there are just using it to post their favourite subs to bring more attention to them because they know that most people with a sense of humour check that place for new subs. "I found this totally disgusting meme online that I DO NOT agree with: sharing for awareness". Wink wink ;) winking like a pig's asshole in parliament a decade ago.
The Gene Genie said:
The price of all of this alone makes it prohibitive. How the fuck can they roll out a massive integrated (and constantly supported/update) database of identification when the Treasury is empty and the country is on the verge of an IMF bailout?
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When has this ever stopped the government? They do not care. They will not be in power to deal with this. It is not their problem so it is not theirs to worry about. They just want to funnel all that lovely tax payer money right to their friends that own the companies that will be contracted to create this, just like every other political money laundering scheme. If anything the more money they waste the better because it will just make nigel's job even harder.
 
Heinrich Maneuver said:
Some fella in Yorkshire (archive) has also been arrested for sharing a "Fuck Hamas, Fuck Palestine, Fuck Islam, want to protest? Fuck off to a Muslim country and protest" meme on twitter. Police say that a 'hate team' had determined 'there are offences there we need to explore,' and expressed concerns about him spreading 'racial hatred'. The man allegedy has autism and tourettes (don't know if real autism or social media autism). I know we have that tracker for migrant crimes but we need a tracker for Gaystapo overreaches. 12 months for sexual assault and 31 for hassposting fyi.
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femboy fart huffer said:
That to me sounds like they didn't like something he said and are now trying to find other crimes or other ways to brand him as an illegal racismer
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Pete North is, I believe, one of the leaders for Homeland Party's Yorkshire branch. I wouldn't be surprised if this is some kind of political shakedown related to that. Steve Laws got arrested a few days ago as well.
 
3DS MAXIMUS said:
I thought the most signed was the "rejoin the EU" one with 6+ million? Im happy to be wrong though
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So far as I know, the list of all petitions is this:

They have specific sub-lists for closed petitions, rejected petitions, etc. so I think this is all of them. There's an export in CSV or JSON link at the bottom and so far as I can see this is the second highest of all of them. I searched for "rejoin" and there are a few about rejoining the EU in different ways but none close to six million. Is it possible that petition was done elsewhere?
 
Breaking News: Rachel Reeves's aide embroiled in criminal investigation into 'voting-rigging'



It begins...

Also, is Digital ID the thing which will split Labour and result in a minority Government/VONC?



Lewis and Whittome are among the first to speak out, Kinnock Jnr. apparently not happy, Wayne David 'deeply concerned', and that's before we even get to the pro-Corbyn majority Black/Asian Labour MP's.

You know what, I think we will see a mass defection to other parties or resignations of the Whip by October and unless Labour can introduce Burnham by the back door (doubtful as he's not an MP and unless Gwynne is forced out of his seat then he has no Parliamentary Constituency to stand in and also he'd have to be able to beat the Reform UK PPC... not necessarily a given... plus Gwynne could refuse to stand down and take action against the party and also time constraints etc.) then they will sink under Starmer. They must hate that he can end their careers, his political career and the party with just one journey to the Palace...
 
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The Gene Genie said:
The price of all of this alone makes it prohibitive. How the fuck can they roll out a massive integrated (and constantly supported/update) database of identification when the Treasury is empty and the country is on the verge of an IMF bailout?
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Let me be absolutely clear; my father was a tool maker. We cannot let the forces of fear and conservatism sway us from delivering this promise. We are working for the working people of this country, in order to give them growth in their pockets. Promises given, promises delivered.

Overly Serious said:
So far as I know, the list of all petitions is this:

They have specific sub-lists for closed petitions, rejected petitions, etc. so I think this is all of them. There's an export in CSV or JSON link at the bottom and so far as I can see this is the second highest of all of them. I searched for "rejoin" and there are a few about rejoining the EU in different ways but none close to six million. Is it possible that petition was done elsewhere?
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It was this one. IIRC it was later found that the vast majority of the signatures were botted, though they clearly weren't removed. The whole thing was stupid even if the signatures were all valid, as more people voted leave than signed the petition and a lot of the people who did sign the petition couldn't be fucked to vote in the referendum.
 
The Gene Genie said:
The price of all of this alone makes it prohibitive. How the fuck can they roll out a massive integrated (and constantly supported/update) database of identification when the Treasury is empty and the country is on the verge of an IMF bailout?
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So far they have stated it is about £100 per person x 75 million = 9 billion, at not even base cost. I would say it is something like 20 billion, as Starmer constantly lies about figures. He hid Chagous, and that was in fact 38 billion. The UK does not have this technology or the staff; you cannot treat this shit like an internet modem, which he thinks, but you can't. You are going to need top-level IT that IS native British; the whole threat of state actors on this alone is unfathomable. Think about how many times this is going to be attacked by just DDOSing their servers. They fucking think this can frame a 75 million-person databank;

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Again, Christ Rachel, this is 2 jeet members of your staff under investigation for corruption. Tulip (I don't know who owns this flat) Siddiq. Stop hiring fucking jeets and muslims because the level of corruption in the Home Office is on another world. We know this because Dominic Cummings has said multiple times.
 
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So far they have stated it is about £100 per person x 75 million = 9 billion, at not even base cost. I would say it is something like 20 billion, as Starmer constantly lies about figures. He hid Chagous, and that was in fact 38 billion. The UK does not have this technology or the staff; you cannot treat this shit like an internet modem, which he thinks, but you can't. You are going to need top-level IT that IS native British; the whole threat of state actors on this alone is unfathomable. Think about how many times this is going to be attacked by just DDOSing their servers. They fucking think this can frame a 75 million-person databank;

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Again, Christ Rachel, this is 2 jeet members of your staff under investigation for corruption. Tulip (I don't know who owns this flat) Siddiq. Stop hiring fucking jeets and muslims because the level of corruption in the Home Office is on another world. We know this because Dominic Cummings has said multiple times.
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The Electoral Commission is refusing to investigate McSweeney, even with all of the evidence presented that he is a definite 'wrong 'un'.

I would not be surprised if one of the senior folks in the Electoral Commission is bent/corrupt and that the result of the last election is in fact illegitimate. As you have suggested yourself, the maths doesn't add up and I've since looked at the % of votes cast against the winners of the seats.

Let's just say, the sums do not add up.

Next GE, the Army gets to count the ballots in secret facilities.
 
If labour have been found to have cheated the system they are beyond fucked. That's a line the public will not actually tolerate. Losing is a fair shake and you take your lumps but someone cheating and on this scale is what will really piss people off. And then the government is illegitimate and they're all fair game as targets. Only way Labour gets out of this alive as a party (and possibly as people) is if it turns out to be true they call an immediate election. Anything else is going to be a major kick off point in our history. And I would bet Trump would completely support the British public and aid in removing Labour in any way possible. His personal conspiracy theory was just proven real by people lying to his face.
 
Overly Serious said:
Right now they don't like it but I think they feel they still have a grip on the ring in the bull's nose. By they I mean the Establishment proper. Tory party itself is probably weeping itself to sleep.
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The Establishment is unquestionably keeping its options open. If by next General Election being on the horizon it looks like Labour and Tories will not be in the top two they will be tossed aside without hesitation. Reform's adoption of various Tory and Labour MPs is known, Lib Dems are starting to slide into the position of opposition to them but annoyingly it's looking more like Democrats/Republicans given the Lib conference where they wept, rent their garments and panicked about school shootings, the rise of darkness and Trump.

Despite that a part of me would love to see both of our major parties suffer the fate of all traitors (to their voter base) and become ones more in line with the Greens than plausible political contenders. I don't think it will happen but there would at least be something to enjoy.
 
Kier Starmer said:
So far they have stated it is about £100 per person
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Yea so I'm definitely leaning on the money laundering scheme idea then. If it was a physical thing I could understand the 'per person' but the cost should be to create the database and service, that's how these things should be costed out. When have you ever heard of a digital service being quoted in cost per person? Normally the costs are £x for the creation of the service and then £y for an amount of storage/bandwidth to accommodate z people. Let me ask you a hypothetical: if this digital id shit only affected ginger nonces named sherbert who have 3 big toes would it only cost £100 in total?

Money laundering is my bet. Complete and utter retardation is a close second.
 
Some late night news:


REVEALED: Reform UK overtakes Labour in Andy Burnham's backyard as Nigel Farage tipped to become PM:




Labour and Tories ‘in so much trouble’ as bombshell figures put Reform on brink of outright majority, Britain’s top polling guru John Curtice says:




Cardiff could introduce new driving restrictions for SUVs amid landmark petition calling for change:




London Cyclists could be slapped with tougher penalties and 'potential prosecution' under new proposals:




REVEALED: The reason Tony Blair pushed for Digital ID - it wasn't about illegal immigration:




Labour removes thousands of Blue Badges as drivers abandon 'courtesy and consideration' for UK roads:




MONEY POLL: Should the energy price cap be scrapped by Ofgem? Vote now:




Man cleared of Jill Dando murder now charged with rape and two counts of indecent assault:




Derby Councillor 'received rape threat' after Union Jack flags pulled down from public spaces:


 
femboy fart huffer said:
Yea so I'm definitely leaning on the money laundering scheme idea then. If it was a physical thing I could understand the 'per person' but the cost should be to create the database and service, that's how these things should be costed out. When have you ever heard of a digital service being quoted in cost per person? Normally the costs are £x for the creation of the service and then £y for an amount of storage/bandwidth to accommodate z people. Let me ask you a hypothetical: if this digital id shit only affected ginger nonces named sherbert who have 3 big toes would it only cost £100 in total?

Money laundering is my bet. Complete and utter retardation is a close second.
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I'd be very surprised if it were billed that way, and it was not just being advertised as cost of system divided by how many people there are.
 
teriyakiburns said:
It was this one. IIRC it was later found that the vast majority of the signatures were botted, though they clearly weren't removed. The whole thing was stupid even if the signatures were all valid, as more people voted leave than signed the petition and a lot of the people who did sign the petition couldn't be fucked to vote in the referendum.
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Oh, I see what's happened. The export of "all" petitions is by parliament. Each change of parliament they hive it off into a different sub-section so when you click the link for "All Petitions" it only shows current parliament. It's more obvious when it's an older petition because it highlights the parliament term in blue if it's not the current. But when you're on the current lot it just says "All petitions".

Mystery solved. Maybe I'll try again with an export of all of them at some point. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
femboy fart huffer said:
What an interesting thing to say. You know considering we are over three years away from a general election and all.
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Three months or less more like it - but that's just my opinion.

Even the most ardent Labour supporter is now less than optimistic that Starmer will be PM in 2029 and we'll be going to the Polls long before then. One ex-Labour member recently said on GB News:

'It's ironic that the same idiots within my old party who shouted and screamed for a GE in 2024, in order to replace a wicked and corrupt Government, are now mealy mouthed about replacing a Government which is worse than the Tories.'

Before 2020, I'd have said that he'd have three to five years before a GE but now we're in a different and more angry, less patient and more volatile world.

Things are happening at a far greater speed and change is accelerating as well - it's not just from my side but also from the Left who are now hoping that Your Party can rival Reform UK. If they suddenly get the mass defection from Labour MP's or if Starmer kicks out anybody disloyal to him, then the Champagne can be put on ice.

Plus, as I've said before, name me an occasion in a Political Cycle in the modern age where a minority party is miles ahead in the polling a year and a few months after the last General Election.

Nobody can - it didn't happen until 2025. Therefore the 'rules of old' don't apply as we're not in the 'calmer' days of the 80s, 90s, 00s or 10s - we're in the worst decade since the end of World War II.

It might not even be a case of having a GE just so as to get Nigel in - one might be needed for the country to survive economically as we're headed for a recession worse than 2007.

Farage axing the debts and green taxes would save us from going over the cliff edge.

Reeves would drive over the edge and blame us for being wrong and then whine about a £135bn. black hole for 2026.
 
The Truth in the matter is for Liebour Burnham riding in on his bike is not a solution but a bandage. He cannot win easily in the North, they lost the Redwall, and Reform voters tend to be more clued in online. Reform voters will swarm the area and vote for the Reform candidate. His economic policies are mental anyway.
 
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
So Mohammed Umbongo arrives on a boat and tries to get a job.

"Sorry mate, you can't have a job because you don't have a digital ID"

Does Mohammed:

A) Go "My bad" and fuck back off to Pakistafrica
B) Ignore that and go work for his seventeen brothers at a sketchy car wash
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Realistically all the fraudsters are going to go crazy applying for thousands of fake IDs during the huge fuck up that will be every person in the country applying on the same day. Every leaked list of genuine ID, every fake ID, they will just sit for days on end submitting random documents knowing the service will be overrun and whoever is working won't have time to actually check documents. Then for years after they will be using/selling/whatever all the fake details.
 
Le b0wski said:
Realistically all the fraudsters are going to go crazy applying for thousands of fake IDs during the huge fuck up that will be every person in the country applying on the same day. Every leaked list of genuine ID, every fake ID, they will just sit for days on end submitting random documents knowing the service will be overrun and whoever is working won't have time to actually check documents. Then for years after they will be using/selling/whatever all the fake details.
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Digital ID Dark Web sites go ching ching in Bitcoin....
 
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