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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[DreinMeinVein]

Tommy Robinson has won his case and is being released. Whether you like him or hate him. This could get interesting from here. Right in time for summer.

Good.
I think Tommeh is a bit of a tit. He really does fancy himself as a bit of an 'ard nut. Maybe he is. But he's not the evil, racist, far-right nutter who exists in many people's imagination.
I'd be happy to have a pint with him. After all, he was all over the Pakistani rape gang story when others called it a myth. Good timing, too.

A bread maker is a top tier investment

My father has a bread making machine. He does an excellent sundried tomato and cheese from a packet. They changed the recipe a few years ago and it wasn't quite as good (something to do with rennet and veggies). It's been improved since – still veggie – and it's bloody lovely. He hates it when I bring my kids over and they devour it all. It is delicious. If you have space, a bread maker is worth considering. Or a bread pan. Whatever really.

 

[A-Logato]

https://archive.is/y9wyk

This is how you know the country is going to the dogs, when even Greggs isn't safe.

I walked into my local Greg's after a bunch of kids came running out carrying a bunch of pastry's and got speaking to one of the girls who worked there. She told me that events like that were daily and on some occasions happen multiple times a day and they've been told to just let it happen. Not one single person has been prosecuted or arrested and it's at the point of there being regulars who do this multiple times a week.

I'd be happy to see this Greg's shut down since it's full of browns but the fact it's now just common practice to just rob the place daily is pretty grim.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

It's his car and the 'other' property, where the link to Starmer has not been revealed (why not?).

My guess would be that Keir, like quite a few other MPs, is a landlord. Potentially a slum one but likely not, he's too highly placed to be lowering himself to that for extra income.

I'd be happy to see this Greg's shut down since it's full of browns but the fact it's now just common practice to just rob the place daily is pretty grim.

Remember those two who stabbed the trans girl? Their conversations were full of "the police are rubbish and never do anything so they won't catch us." This is where that sort of thing comes from, when casual and regular shop lifting, often as a mass activity, and similar criminality becomes something that is not punished then worse crimes follow.

 

[Muad'Dick]

Tommy Robinson has won his case and is being released. Whether you like him or hate him. This could get interesting from here. Right in time for summer.

It'll be a wild one in the tunnels tonight!

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

On another note; what exactly is this about a male Ukrainian prostitute who set fire to one of Keir starmers homes? Obviously nothing on the mainstream news about it but that doesn't mean anything at all.

It's the classic sex worker scenario: "For £100 I'll do anything you want" so the punter asks him to commit an act of terror against a leader.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Being gender critical has pretty much always been constitutionally protected, but Stonewall told all these organisations it wasn't. The big issue is you'd have to get this fight beyond the lower courts as magistrates are fully pozzed (as wwell as some higher courts), so most people aren't going to risk their kids losing even more shools time as the case finds it way to the Supreme Court.

It's almost like this guys doesn't have a fucking clue what he's talking about and spends all day writing fanfics about British politics.

Britain, Ireland and some other Commonwealth and ex Commonwealth places have the Civil Service, divided into Departments, each worker answering ultimately to a Minister and Public Service wherein a worker is employed by a local authority, QUANGO or agency.

 

[-Jack-]

I walked into my local Greg's after a bunch of kids came running out carrying a bunch of pastry's and got speaking to one of the girls who worked there. She told me that events like that were daily and on some occasions happen multiple times a day and they've been told to just let it happen. Not one single person has been prosecuted or arrested and it's at the point of there being regulars who do this multiple times a week.

I'd be happy to see this Greg's shut down since it's full of browns but the fact it's now just common practice to just rob the place daily is pretty grim.

PL,

I worked in M&S for a short while and a group of kids came in to pretty much just fuck around and try to attempt to steal shit, we had security, they couldn't do anything, the "police" (community officers) would come and do nothing, the kids would just run off. There was one time this girl came in, lit her fag in the store and started puffing it into peoples faces and still, the "police" did nothing.

These were all white, English kids btw, it seems that there are no consequences of punishment for bad behaviour anymore.

 

[Overly Serious]

Also, to think Russia is not actively conducting espionage in the UK and around Europe is incredibly naive; we also do it. All countries do it, Russia is much more aggressive, "in your face" with it though.

Nobody said Russia doesn't conduct espionage you idiot. I said that it wasn't in their interests to carry out some arson attack on the Prime Minister's home when you suggested it might be a False Flag from Russian.

As to Russia's espionage being "much more aggressive in your face with it", this is based on your extensive understanding of the scene of international espionage is it? You know we in the West have multiple times attempted to engineer coups in countries on Russia's border (successfully in the case of Ukraine). Hell, France kidnapped a Russian citizen Pavel Durov recently to force him to make Telegram less private. You have no basis at all to make comparisons. You are not an international man of mystery.

I think Tommeh is a bit of a tit. He really does fancy himself as a bit of an 'ard nut. Maybe he is.

I saw a video of him punching a guy who came at him at the races one time. It was a pretty swift punch. And there was that video of him getting jumped by six Antifa outside a McDonalds and he kept swinging till they ran off (the the police refused to assist him). He's at the least able to handle himself pretty well. Has to be, really.

I walked into my local Greg's after a bunch of kids came running out carrying a bunch of pastry's and got speaking to one of the girls who worked there. She told me that events like that were daily and on some occasions happen multiple times a day and they've been told to just let it happen. Not one single person has been prosecuted or arrested and it's at the point of there being regulars who do this multiple times a week.

I'd be happy to see this Greg's shut down since it's full of browns but the fact it's now just common practice to just rob the place daily is pretty grim.

If you don't shut down this sort of behaviour you get more behaviour. It's a slippery slope. More like a waterslide, really.

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

Pick A national identifier, technically we all have National Insurance numbers and NHS numbers so we could go from that but somehow they don't use them as the base identifier.

A national identity card equivalent? You have got to be kidding me. How much did the EU pay you for this post?

 

[Overly Serious]

It's the classic sex worker scenario: "For £100 I'll do anything you want"

You're kidding me. I've been ignoring prostitutes my whole life. You meant to tell me all this time I could have had someone listen to me talk about politics all night long?

 

[-Jack-]

@Overly Serious In order to not shit this thread up, I'll agree to disagree. I appreciate your strong, moral stance, though. I hope we both support freedom and democracy, and not censorship.

 

[Otterly]

This is ultimately what will be their death knell.

A loaf tin? Novel, but I reckon if you gave me a run up for a decent swing I could have a go.

 

[Smyrna]

My guess would be that Keir, like quite a few other MPs, is a landlord. Potentially a slum one but likely not, he's too highly placed to be lowering himself to that for extra income.

Starmer is most definitely a landlord - he is not living at his house which got firebombed, he is renting it out. But there has been nothing to suggest he also owns the other property that was attacked (or, at least, I haven't seen that link made).

 

[teriyakiburns]

A loaf tin? Novel, but I reckon if you gave me a run up for a decent swing I could have a go.

A proper old steel one will make a very nice bong.

 

[Otterly]

A proper old steel one will make a very nice bong.

I’ve got a cast iron enamelled one, I’d rather not damage it unless it’s for something very important but I guess needs must!
I really want a few more of them but they cost a fortune and this one is ancient and from a car boot sale.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

The problem with home baking is that the bread is only the best thing you will ever taste for the first 6 hours, after which it starts to quickly go stale without being packed full of preservatives. So either you eat the whole thing in one go and are put off from baking bread for a while, or you have a slice or two and waste the rest.

Also, toast is such a hideous waste of good bread. Good bread has natural moistness that elevates the taste spectacularly with some salted butter. Toasting it essentially dehydrates it so you can hydrate it again with butter, which defeats the whole purpose unless the bread was already going dry in the first place.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

See, I hate toast in all forms, it is insulting to nuke freshly baked bread. You remove everything, the moisture and the smell. I might take your recommendations on a bread maker, as I have not used one in over a decade and it sounds very fast to do.

 

[BongoMongo]

I’ve got a cast iron enamelled one, I’d rather not damage it unless it’s for something very important but I guess needs must!
I really want a few more of them but they cost a fortune and this one is ancient and from a car boot sale.

If you put a dint in your tin walloping one of our elected leaders I'm sure we can have a whip round to buy you a nice le creuset one. Your puns alone mean I'd give my purse a shakedown.

 

[Overly Serious]

This is now the bread thread.

The problem with home baking is that the bread is only the best thing you will ever taste for the first 6 hours, after which it starts to quickly go stale without being packed full of preservatives. So either you eat the whole thing in one go and are put off from baking bread for a while, or you have a slice or two and waste the rest.

I find bread freezes just fine. Helps to have a powerful freezer that will cool it rapidly but pre-slice it, bag it up airtight and put in the freezer and it's easy to thaw out from frozen in a toaster in a couple of minutes and you have warm, fresh-tasting bed.

Also, toast is such a hideous waste of good bread. Good bread has natural moistness that elevates the taste spectacularly with some salted butter. Toasting it essentially dehydrates it so you can hydrate it again with butter, which defeats the whole purpose unless the bread was already going dry in the first place.

Toasting (and freezing) actually lowers the glycaemic response to bread which is a good thing. And toast is just lovely with scrambled eggs and tomatoes. Personal tastes.

See, I hate toast in all forms, it is insulting to nuke freshly baked bread. You remove everything, the moisture and the smell. I might take your recommendations on a bread maker, as I have not used one in over a decade and it sounds very fast to do.

Just don't buy a dirt cheap one and you'll mostly be alright. And get one of an appropriate size for the amount you'll actually eat. Panasonic do good ones.

The key is to actually follow the instructions and to be willing to try it for a bit before you get it just right. I had a friend who used a breadmaker every week and when I stayed with her I used it once and she was blown away by how good the bread was. She was using cold water and it was supposed to be warm. All I did was follow the instructions correctly and the outcome was very different. Or people use the wrong type of flour. ("What does strong mean anyway?")

I do favour just using it for dough if you have the luxury of time, though. But no reason it can't be good just all baked in the maker entirely.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

it seems that there are no consequences of punishment for bad behaviour anymore

Truth is there never was.

And you get decades of people noticing that and well you are absolutely going to see a spike when people now have a shield to hide behind to boot.

It’s never been a race thing. It’s kids doing shit cause they can cause they know we won’t do shit to them.