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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Kier Starmer said:
Still, one of the best recipes I have made is jalapeno cheese bread,
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can't leave us hanging. make with a recipe
Kier Starmer said:
If Starmer gives away Gibraltar, then I think there may be issues because that is something he was warned about multiple times.
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well hopefully the boys stationed at HMNB Faslane have something to say about it. Given that the Spanish have no defence.........
 
Made In Wales said:
Falmouth Church targeted by morons:


Oh, and another Welsh Choirgirl dindu nuffin....


Breaking news expected soon: Reform UK get 17.4 million new members.
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A quick google search says Mr. Corker had jungle fever and married the daughter of an African tribal chief and his descendants still live in Sierra Leone today.

His family became more African than the LARPing retards bitching about it from their London apartments.
 
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
It's why last Summer was such a major incident, they had to bring in police from everywhere in the UK to prop up the major cities expected to kick off, leaving entire counties completely vulnerable. There's not enough police to legitimately deal with a flash incident where they can be easily overpowered and outnumbered. You'd think after last Summer there'd have been a MAJOR drive to hire police officers so a situation like this never happened again... but due to the prison's issue it doesn't matter if you have one police officer for every citizen, CPS aren't going to push a prosecution unless it's serious enough to justify a prison cell.
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I did an essaypost (apologies for those by the way everyone) basically sharing your sentiments a couple months back. It feels like the only people who aren't afraid of the government are those who ought be afraid of it, and those aren't afraid are those who should. Priorities are backwards and it's the government's own fault for it. Like you said: paper tiger.

Going after illegals can't be a true priority since we already know the prisons are full and they've resorted to hotels to detain them; their entire message is undermined by the actions they're forced to commit since they're so overwhelmed, never mind their opponents taking their words apart and fellow MPs undermining it with shit-talk and lip service to defiance.

So much enforcement and self-policing is just the state's ability to bluff about their capabilities. Raising noise about the scant few arrests they make is how they lend legitimacy to their lie, yet people still fall for it far too often, both domestic and foreign. They did fuck-all about the boats, so the people on said boats don't believe them alongside the people who blagged a visitor Visa and overstayed their welcome. They got their fourth letter from the BBC about not paying their TV Licence about 5-year ago, so the four hundredth letter doesn't mean shit anymore.

If you hate the government because of their frequent lying, you should also recognise that they rely on those lies to keep compliance if they lack real power (like the BBC, like Ofcom). If you're not an easy target, then you're not a target at all — you're probably not on their radar. If you're outside their jurisdiction or beyond their reach, you almost certainly occupy the lowest rung of concern. If Ahmed Ali from Libya clocked onto this, so can you.

Just don't be retarded.

Made In Wales said:
What matters now is putting the country first and putting political differences aside.

George might not be the best person ever, but despite everything I admire him for saying 'the country is in peril and you, Nigel, are the one to save us in our hour of need.'
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This is all very funny. If we accept his support is earnest then it tracks if he's acting on principle and pragmatism, it tracks. Labour lost a lot of voters to Reform in the North so it shows where the working class are confiding, and one of the boroughs in Rochdale (the place he was last MP for) had some recent election tampering kerfuffle by Labour counters (Kirkholt & Balderstone, it's somewhere earlier in the thread) and said council went to reform.

Alternatively, he might've turn it for personal reasons. He could be angry over the GE costing him his seat after he barely squeaked it in a by-election prior, and it went to Labour after less than a hundred days:
George Galloway is no show at election count as he's booted out after just 92 days as Rochdale MP
Workers Party of Britain leader George Galloway failed to show up at the General Election count that saw him booted out as the MP for Rochdale.
The former Rochdale MP, who lost his Rochdale seat to Labour on July 5, claimed to be an MP 'for all Rochdalians' and promised to 'make Rochdale great again' back in February.
Galloway received 11,508 votes, behind Labour’s Paul Waugh, who won the seat with a total of 13,047 votes. The Workers Party leader didn't turn up for the count in Rochdale, which he only won in the by-election four months ago, overturning a labour majority.
And there were cheers and applause among Labour councillors and supporters at Manchester Central as it was announced that George Galloway had lost his seat in Rochdale.
On the BBC election programme on Friday (July 5) Neil Kinnock, the former Labour leader, described Mr Galloway as 'repulsive'.
It was just four months ago that Galloway promised he would try and improve health services, by reopening an A&E and maternity unit at Rochdale Infirmary.
He also pledged to crack down on grooming gangs, clean the town hall clock, bring back 'big name' retailers to the town including Primark, and secure the future of Rochdale AFC.
Posting to X after the result, Mr Galloway wrote: "I thank the people of Rochdale who gave me 54 sitting days in the last parliament as their MP.
"Big thanks to my agent, my campaign team and the thousands who voted for me today. We took the government party to within 1,500 votes and serve notice on Labour that we are here to stay in Rochdale.
"We will field a full slate of council candidates, establish a full-time office there, campaign to re-open the Maternity Ward and A&E, and keep up the pressure on Labour in the town."
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Although, considering how personal politics can get, it might literally just be this:
On the BBC election programme on Friday (July 5) Neil Kinnock, the former Labour leader, described Mr Galloway as 'repulsive'.
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What are the chances Galloway becomes a Reform MP?
 
Frostnipped Todger said:
Or at least the residents of Gibraltar?
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Will Gibraltar get in the way of Starmer’s EU reset?
There are signs that agreement on ‘the Gibraltar issue’ may, finally, be imminent. Not for the first time Gibraltar’s chief minister, Fabian Picardo, has expressed optimism: ‘We’re 99 per cent of the way there… we’re within kissing distance.’ The anticipated plan reportedly involves Gibraltar becoming an associate member of the EU’s passport-free Schengen zone, allowing 15,000 workers from one of Spain’s poorest regions to enter Gibraltar every day, and Gibraltarians to regain the freedom of movement that ‘we used to enjoy as European citizens’. In the 2016 referendum, 96 per cent of Gibraltarians, who rely on imports of food, medicine and other supplies from Spain, voted to remain in the EU.
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It's to make Gibraltar part of the Schengen, which, fuckin' 'el, we're just inching to join back in all but name if this happens. But it basically sounds like the same issue that arose with Northern Island and the Republic of Ireland. They want that same right of free travel essentially.

Vox (Spanish 'actual' right-wing party a la AFD and such) do want it back.
Nor did Vox’s manifesto for Spain’s 2023 general election leave much room for doubt. It promised to
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Dismantle the networks of piracy, drug trafficking, smuggling and money laundering that emanate from Gibraltar and apply all the international pressure necessary to recover the occupied territory.
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Sounds Argie. People in Gibraltar don't want to join Spain. But it could be similar to Millie in Argentina, making some strong remarks on 'returning' the Falklands but ultimately doing nothing on his end to do it. Vox's rhetoric is to show they're firmly nationalist but have no real intentions of get it. "International pressure" lmao.
Under the 1713 Treaty of Utrecht, Spain ceded sovereignty over Gibraltar to Britain ‘in perpetuity’. Since it wasn’t even part of the Crown of Castile until 1462, Gibraltar has now been British longer than it was Spanish. A spokesman for the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office said: ‘We have been clear that we will only agree a deal that maintains British sovereignty over Gibraltar and has the full backing of Gibraltar’s chief minister, Fabian Picardo.’ The chief minister has repeatedly emphasised the Rock’s ‘sacrosanct’ British sovereignty.
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People in Gibraltar don't want to join Spain.
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If you ever go to that area of Spain, the contrast between La Linea de Concepcion and Gibraltar is quite something. The Spanish side is borderline third world then you drive/walk into Gibraltar and it's like a parallel universe where it's a nice English town with English shops etc but it's in the Med.

In the morning and evening there's always a huge amount of Spanish reg cars going in and out for work. The Spanish side know that they would be in dire straits without Gib.

Worth a visit to anyone in that area for sure, really interesting place. Plus if you're driving or a smoker you can get extremely cheap fuel and fags.
 
Coolio55 said:
Anyone know where to get non seed oil bread? Literally every loaf had it in the supermarket. "Original Farmhouse Recipe" my fucking arse. Shame on you, Warburtons.
Also, seems they've fucked up Jack Daniels. Grabbed some for a sore throat and was horrified at the bitter harsh swill they'd sold me (insert your "so nothing's changed then!" jokes here) ...but it's not just here, the Yanks are complaining about it on reddit.
They were out of Jim Bean but maybe they've fucked that too. Thank heavens that I'm not a regular drinker.
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Bake it yourself. It's not hard.

Seriously, invest in yourself and your health by ditching seed oils. They're poison.
 
Made In Wales said:
We must bring down this so-called Labour Government. To achieve this we must build a mass movement of peaceful resistance.
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I'm not a LARPer, just a realist, but peaceful resistance has failed. We are not Ghandi, and we aren't India (just yet).

The only way the governments will listen and the only way to enact true change is to get our hands dirty. Britain has done it time and time before and if it wants change it must happen again. This is the grim reality of politics and life. Violence is a last option, but it is still an option.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK.
 
Tories now in FOURTH.

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Happy Tuesday, lads.

EDIT: This is from YouGov, who've usually been pretty good with the polls. Tories have never been in fourth place before.
 
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BongoMongo said:
what exactly is this about a male Ukrainian prostitute who set fire to one of Keir starmers homes? Obviously nothing on the mainstream news about it but that doesn't mean anything at all.
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Also wish to know more about this
 
Chunky Salsa said:
I've baked bread a few times; and it always seems more hassle than it's worth. It goes stale very fast,
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This is a good thing; Whatever they are doing to make commercial bread last forever is unholy.

Get a bread box and wrap your loaves, or make a smaller loaf, or both. And don't think stale bread has gone bad, you can still use it for a fried slice, bread and butter pudding, etc. croutons if you fancy...

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Ban halal slaughter ('Religious slaughter', for optics), hijab and niqab ('Religious face coverings' for optics), circumcisions for under 18s unless medically necessary
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I think your approach is wrong; These things * are already illegal for the rest of us, why should certain (foreign!) groups of people enjoy exceptions from the laws of this land? This "two tier justice" thing is not something that Starmer invented.

* the face coverings might not be strictly illegal, but the police often seem to think otherwise.
 
>IMPLYING said:
If you hate the government because of their frequent lying, you should also recognise that they rely on those lies to keep compliance if they lack real power (like the BBC, like Ofcom). If you're not an easy target, then you're not a target at all — you're probably not on their radar. If you're outside their jurisdiction or beyond their reach, you almost certainly occupy the lowest rung of concern. If Ahmed Ali from Libya clocked onto this, so can you.
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If you speak out publicly, if you try to organise any meaningful activity, you will discover how competent or not the State is very quickly. The go to tactic of Authoritarianism is Criminalise Widely, Enforce Selectively. They know they have limited ability to enforce everyone's behaviour directly. Their strategy is to hone in on anyone who sticks their neck out and throw everything at that person in the courts and in the press and nip any nexus of rebellion in the bud to discourage the others.

And if you're about to tell me any variation on "just don't stick your neck out and they can't get you" then you're just showing that the strategy works.

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What are the chances Galloway becomes a Reform MP?
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He'd be toxic to a lot of their support base. I remember when he interviewed Tommy Robinson - it was one of the most underhanded loaded interviews I've ever seen (outside of Piers Morgan, obvs). I'm not sure what Reform would gain from it at the polling booth. Most people are voting Reform based on the party and as a protest, more than for what they know of their local MP. Hell, half the people in this thread will concede when I say that Farage is controlled opposition but still say they have no choice but to vote for him.

If you don't vote for the controlled opposition after all, then the controlled group might get in. And besides, I'm not certain Galloway is Controlled Opposition so much as he's a genuine nutter, so they probably wouldn't want him. With Farage and his imported Conservative campaign people purging out grass roots and rival figures such as Rupert Lowe, I doubt they want to bring in new people who have a support base independent of Reform.

Kier Starmer said:
Honestly, just get a loaf tin. I find breadmakers very inconsistent.
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Perhaps from model to model but if you stick with one and learn what's best with it, you can get consistent results. I think most people's error is to ignore the temperature of the water they're putting in or not being precise with the quantities. But if you can afford it and have the space for it, a breadmaker will ultimately save you money and be healthier. Ideally you just use it to make the dough and stick the dough in loaf tin after. But either way, I think they're worthwhile. Healthier anyway as you only put in natural ingredients you want.
 
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