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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Spud]

Tate is the lowest form of life form that there is. I can’t stand women beaters. They make me want to fedpost and I hope someone friend of the Clinton’s him.

I hope she sees this bro. Rooting for you, give her one for Ingerland.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

or at least done something

Obviously. But fiction. Though considering all the crime keeps having ‘everyone was warned, knew and/or did nothing to prevent multiple times before event’

It could be argued to be realistic.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I'm curious, and unlike certain politicians I appreciate this is fiction, but should the detectives not have arrested Jade or at least done something ? Is that not at least common assault, if not common assault occasioning actual bodily harm ?

Well top of the list it's fiction. Secondly it's Netflix fiction so "stunning and brave individual beats someone with no consequences" is par for their course. The scenario described is pure fantasy hence why it's such an unhinged example and the police response is of sociopaths.

But there is an element of reality to it. If the police are doing something of higher priority they typically would not get themselves involved in something else unless it's fairly extreme. If they are investigating a murder and see someone vomiting on the streets they will not stop the former to handle the latter. If they are driving to an emergency and one of the people getting out of their way crashes into a parked car they will not stop to deal with that.

So the answer is fictional depiction of something with an element of truth.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Will there ever be any positivity in this thread? Can we make a trend of having only positive news? For at least, one day? Or is that far-fetched?

I caught the mouse that was living under my grandmother's couch for the past two days. The little bastard was residing under there for two days rent free and required wasting a heaped teaspoon of marmalade to lure into the trap. Though maybe I'm being too hard on him, since he was forcibly housed thanks to the cat bringing him in. I evicted him outside near the gate, where he promptly ran into some brush.

Picture of the squatter/hostile occupant:

 

[EddyRooney]

Well top of the list it's fiction. Secondly it's Netflix fiction so "stunning and brave individual beats someone with no consequences" is par for their course. The scenario described is pure fantasy hence why it's such an unhinged example and the police response is of sociopaths.

But there is an element of reality to it. If the police are doing something of higher priority they typically would not get themselves involved in something else unless it's fairly extreme. If they are investigating a murder and see someone vomiting on the streets they will not stop the former to handle the latter. If they are driving to an emergency and one of the people getting out of their way crashes into a parked car they will not stop to deal with that.

So the answer is fictional depiction of something with an element of truth.

You're talking about if they are on call - i.e. responding to an emergency situation. Blue lights flashing and sirens going.
You're the second person to reply to my post and neither of you give me the impression you've watched the programme and seen the incident, nor understood the point I'm making. So I'll spell it out.....
The two detectives at the time are investigating a murder. But that has happened, past tense, doesn't matter what they do now, the girl is dead. At the time they aren't actively questioning anyone, in fact the next person they intend to question is the boy being assaulted. My point is, surely in real life, they would have done something, even if it was just requesting uniformed back up to investigate the incident and make the arrest. But considering they were witnesses on the scene to an unprovoked attack, I would have thought they had a duty of care to the victim and an interest in his wellbeing as he could assist in progressing their investigation - they would in effect be preserving evidence in their own case.
But the second point is that in a show that is openly using misogyny as a topic, it is interesting that there is nothing noted in the obvious double standard that it is seemingly okay in the eyes of the law for the older black girl, Jade, to assault the younger white boy, Ryan. I appreciate that this is a Netflix piece of propaganda, but it is curious that this hasn't been picked up in the press anywhere. Is it through fear that any journalist that mentions it will be cancelled ? Whilst obviously the murder is far more serious than the assault, two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[isalaide]

I caught the mouse that was living under my grandmother's couch for the past two days. The little bastard was residing under there for two days rent free and required wasting a heaped teaspoon of marmalade to lure into the trap. Though maybe I'm being too hard on him, since he was forcibly housed thanks to the cat bringing him in. I evicted him outside near the gate, where he promptly ran into some brush.

Picture of the squatter/hostile occupant:
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Bad news friend. That's not an immigrant but a domestic terrorist; that's a house mouse, not an outside boy. Get poison down ASAP to get the rest of them. I think the cat is getting unfairly blamed for illegal mouse trafficking here.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Thank you Independent for confirming that we’d have enough to cover the people on benefits if we put the spending on illegals in Hotels to 0.

And we would also cut the money we are spending on benefits because we all kniw the Hotelfugees aren’t working.

Again, thank you for confirming.

https://www.independent.co.uk/politics/benefits-pip-welfare-numbers-reeves-spring-statement-b2719430.html

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

But the second point is that in a show that is openly using misogyny as a topic, it is interesting that there is nothing noted in the obvious double standard that it is seemingly okay in the eyes of the law for the older black girl, Jade, to assault the younger white boy, Ryan.

Your assessment of my not having viewed the show is correct. However my answer to you was in the first paragraph and remains accurate.
"it's Netflix fiction so "stunning and brave individual beats someone with no consequences" is par for their course. The scenario described is pure fantasy hence why it's such an unhinged example and the police response is of sociopaths."

You're trying to analyse it like someone with common sense looking at a show that the media and politicians are pushing like it's some hard hitting documentary rather than a step or two above Marvel nonsense. While there might be some well acted bits it is pure Netflix nonsense and as such there will utterly irrational moments. Female assaults someone in front of authority figures and suffers no consequences is practically part of Netflix Bingo.

I appreciate that this is a Netflix piece of propaganda, but it is curious that this hasn't been picked up in the press anywhere. Is it through fear that any journalist that mentions it will be cancelled ? Whilst obviously the murder is far more serious than the assault, two wrongs don't make a right.

They won't be cancelled for writing it. though I'd imagine plenty of rags would run articles titled, "reviewer for the Mail thinks it's bad to punch MURDERERS," but it'd be like trying to do a serious analysis of all the bits of Acolyte that make the heroes the worst people in the show. It's fine for a blog but it's unlikely to make a news article. In this case the child is confirmed to be the killer and so Jade's violence is retroactively justified. That's how this sort of fiction works.

To lower it even further it's this scene;

But instead of "she's a man" it's "he's a murderer."

 

[FedPostalService]

I hope she sees this bro. Rooting for you, give her one for Ingerland.

Kill yourself. You’ll impress your big eyed weirdo e-daddy by doing so. Xxx

 

[Spud]

Kill yourself. You’ll impress your big eyed weirdo e-daddy by doing so. Xxx

Calm down lad, you're seething about things outside of your control. Post as many impotent threats as you need to, I get it.

 

[FedPostalService]

Calm down lad, you're seething about things outside of your control. Post as many impotent threats as you need to, I get it.

It is the only way I can achieve an orgasm these days

 

[Mark Goldbridge]

Honest to God if you're a white male in that country, plan on moving somewhere else. That brown sludge hole is going to shit and you're already seeing many policies that effectively blame white people with the tax and legal system that takes money from your pocket and puts it in the pocket of many people who want you dead. I understand you might want to hold onto what there is left but if a lot of white men in that country got up on leave they might change for the better or it accelerates the shitifiedness but you are no longer part of that scam country.
Even in places like Czech or Poland you have far more legal freedoms and rights to do things and you pay 10x less for the privilege. Your children will grow up in a much safer place than even the most expensive white safe haven in the UK. The media's job primarily is to keep White people in the UK and the government is desperate to try to poison your mind that the country you live in is safe so they can forever farm the White man for all of his money.
Take the leap, you have nothing to lose and they can't offer you anything worth it anymore.

 

[FedPostalService]

Honest to God if you're a white male in that country, plan on moving somewhere else.

> Country being ruined by immigrants
> Tells people to become immigrants

What did he mean by this?

Seriously though, there is no stranger blight on this earth than colonies of British ex-pats.

Doesn’t seem fair to ruin someone else’s country the same way ours is getting ruined.

 

[Mark Goldbridge]

> Country being ruined by immigrants
> Tells people to become immigrants

What did he mean by this?

Seriously though, there is no stranger blight on this earth than colonies of British ex-pats.

Doesn’t seem fair to ruin someone else’s country the same way ours is getting ruined.

You can say it like that and be noble and stay for all your life but the reality is you do back breaking work just to subsidize a local muslim family of 20 who want you dead. No, what's the point? Go somewhere whiter and nicer where you won't be actively discriminated against and hated by an increasingly large part of population.

 

[A-Logato]

You can say it like that and be noble and stay for all your life but the reality is you do back breaking work just to subsidize a local muslim family of 20 who want you dead. No, what's the point? Go somewhere whiter and nicer where you won't be actively discriminated against and hated by an increasingly large part of population.

I'm not one to talk since I plan on leaving anyways but some people do not like the idea of handing our country and it's history over to Jamal and Mohamed and kicking the can down the road by going some where else and praying they don't enact the same policy that ruined here there.

 

[Mark Goldbridge]

I'm not one to talk since I plan on leaving anyways but some people do not like the idea of handing our country and it's history over to Jamal and Mohamed and kicking the can down the road by going some where else and praying they don't enact the same policy that ruined here there.

There's no honor in a noble fool, it's far too late and if you think the thing you outlined there hasn't already happened, you're in too deep.

 

[>IMPLYING]

house mouse, not an outside boy

You got me worried for a moment in that I could possibly mistake an immigrant for a native. Me, a Civnat — well I never!

Thankfully I think can confirm that this guy comes from the outside after I reviewed the video I took of him. It's not your fault in assuming he was an even more bothersome resident; the photo I uploaded here hides his pale feet and white underbelly, and the lighting makes his body and tail appear much browner too which is a feature of the house mouse. From above they're pretty much identical from what I can see except the house mouse appears to have eyes that bulge out less and the field mouse has a slightly pointer face. I also think the photo's perspective makes him appear larger than he actually was, since he was no larger than a clementine. Still an immigrant, but a little less dangerous than a terrorist thankfully.

My first interaction with the furry squatter was after going to bed one night, hearing the cat's bell going crazy and checking the hall to see what was up. The cat, soaking wet from having been outside, was swatting and toying at one of the rugs it had somehow managed to fold over. I nudged it back flat and suddenly he's darting between my legs in search of free accommodation. There was a whole ordeal involving emptying out a storage closet at 11PM, cornering him with the cellar spiders I so desperately didn't want to be near, trying to scoop him up in a towel only for it to result in him making yet another escape. I was worried that the wet patch on his back was blood I'd have to worry about finding a dead mouse somewhere, but in hindsight he was probably also soaked from the heavy rain like the cat, which would confirm he came from the outside.

Get poison down ASAP

Wait, I have to kill the immigrants instead of sending them outside?
...
Sorry guys, I think I'm on team Badenoch now, it's been a good ride.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

Me and my fiance are going to pull the K1 trigger soon I think, the job market is dreadful currently and I can pick up base accountancy over in the states. Labour is really speed-running shit atm.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

Me and my fiance are going to pull the K1 trigger soon I think, the job market is dreadful currently and I can pick up base accountancy over in the states. Labour is really speed-running shit atm.

You are taking up kickboxing?

 

[Special spoonie]

Remember Rayner being cagey on the details about whether her new 1.5 million homes were going to migrants?

Illegal migrants will be put up in hotels for years to come, Treasury admits - as advisers tell the Home Office to find cheaper accommodation

The Home Office has been ordered to find cheaper accommodation for migrants in a bid to stop private firms from 'profiteering' from small boat crossings.

A Treasury document acknowledged that in the face of 'global instability' migrants are likely to need to be put up in hotels for years to come, The Sunday Times reported.

At present the Home Office houses more than 38,000 migrants in hotels at a cost of £5.5million per day, with a further 65,000-plus migrants staying in 'dispersal accommodation'.

Dispersal accommodation refers to longer-term, temporary housing for asylum seekers in the UK where they can stay until their claim is processed - the term encompasses everything from shared houses to bedsits and flats.

The difference in cost to the UK taxpayer is considerable, with a hotel stay costing £145 per night on average, compared to only £14 for dispersal accommodation.

The new document, published by the Treasury's new Office for Value for Money (OVfM), makes clear that, if achieved, Sir Keir Starmer's plan to build 1.5million homes in England by 2029 would help reduce the need for asylum seekers to be funneled into hotels.

Labour pledged during the election campaign in June last year to 'end asylum hotels, saving the taxpayer billions of pounds'.

But earlier this month it was revealed that he number of migrants living in hotels at the expense of taxpayers has actually risen by 8,500 since Sir Keir took power.

Back in 2019 the Home Office agreed ten-year contracts with three private contractors to procure accommodation for migrants on UK shores. While each firm has a £12 cap on the profit they can make per person, the influx of small boats has led to a sharp spike in revenues

While Labour pledged during the election campaign in June last year to reduce the number of asylum seekers living in hotels, earlier this month it was revealed that the figure had actually risen by 8,500 under Labour

A group of men outside one of the many hotels across the UK currently housing migrants
However, the document also reaches less than flattering conclusions about the private outsourcing companies contracted to find hotels for migrants, which it says have 'made record profits in recent years,' leading to 'accusations of profiteering'.

Back in 2019 the Home Office agreed ten-year contracts with three private contractors who were tasked with procuring accommodation for migrants on UK shores at a total cost of around £4.6billion.

The three firms - Serco, Clearsprings Ready Homes, and Mears - pay hotel owners, who in turn make a profit of their own.

Each of the three private firms have a limit of approximately £12 on the profit they can make per person but the influx of small boats has led to a sharp spike in migrants for them to accommodate.

According to their most recent accounts, Serco registered a 5 per cent spike in profits in 2023 to £249million.

Meanwhile both Clearsprings and Mears made a profit of more than £50million - a record for the former.

Serco and Mears told the The Sunday Times that their profits resulted from performance across their companies and were not solely the consequence of Home Office contracts, while Clearsprings did not respond to a request for comment.

Mears said: 'The provision of asylum accommodation and support is one part of our activities and our publicly declared profits relate to performance across the group.

Serco is the biggest of the private contractors paid by the government to find accommodation for migrants. According to their most recent accounts, the company registered a 5 per cent spike in profits in 2023 to £249million - which they say resulted from performance across their overall company and were not solely the consequence of Home Office contracts
'Profits on the provision of the asylum accommodation and support contracts are capped and open book arrangements exist with the Home Office.'

A government spokesperson accepted that the cost of temporary accommodation for migrants had 'skyrocketed' but said that was partly because they had 'inherited an asylum system under unprecedented strain.'

They added: 'We are absolutely committed to ending the use of hotels, and since coming into government have taken immediate action to restart asylum processing to begin closing hotels, have surged the number of returns, removing more than 19,000 people with no right to be in the UK, and established the Border Security Command to dismantle the gangs driving this trade.

'The Office of Value for Money will work with departments, local government and the private sector to tackle these problems, ensuring a more strategic, co-ordinated approach that delivers better value for the taxpayer.'