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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Guntsress Of Diabeteeze said:
I apologise for PL - I have friends, but hen they don't seem to understand my feelings (London). I was a mummys boy and now I feel part of my soul lost- now all my "friends" do is not talk how I feel. Im sorry.
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Dude some of your posts grind my gears but you come across as an earnest and decent sort.

I am so sorry for what you are going through and I know how hard that is. My Father died when I was comparatively young (an adult but not the age you expect to have that happen).

I am so tremendously sorry for not only for your loss but that your friends are not supporting you.
 
It was Tate all along

Jonny Humphries
BBC News, Liverpool
The parents of a Southport attack survivor said teenage boys need to be protected from the "terrifying" impact of the influencer Andrew Tate.
Their daughter, referred to as Child A, was stabbed more than 30 times on 29 July by then-17-year-old Axel Rudakubana, in an attack that killed three young girls.
On Thursday the family's local MP Paul Foster (South Ribble) read a statement from them in a Commons debate on knife crime.
He said Child A's parents praised tougher knife crime laws but said work to tackle the problem needed to begin with educating children.
They added "counter messaging" aimed at young people was needed to oppose what they were being exposed to online.
The parents criticised Mr Tate's effect on teenagers and praised Netflix drama Adolescence for exploring the topic of misogynistic radicalisation.
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Paul Foster, Labour MP for South Ribble, said he wanted to "give a voice" to the victims of knife crime
Rudakubana wiped much of his internet search history before the attack and it is not known whether he ever viewed material linked to Mr Tate.
However Cambridge Crown Court this month heard how triple murderer Kyle Clifford viewed Andrew Tate videosbefore shooting his ex-girlfriend Louise Hunt and her sister Hannah with a crossbow and stabbing their mother Carol Hunt.
"The work required is vast and complex," the statement read to the Commons said.
"Long term reduction in knife crime will only be seen if we go back to the start and raise our children better."
Alice Aguiar, nine; Bebe King, six; and seven-year-old Elsie Dot Stancombe died during the attack at a Taylor Swift-themed dance workshop at a studio in the Merseyside town.


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Rudakubana was jailed for a minimum of 52 years for the murders, along with the attempted murders of eight other children, who cannot be named for legal reasons, class instructor Leanne Lucas and businessman John Hayes.
Child A's family said: "It is sensible to make it harder to purchase knives [and] to tighten the law carrying knives. These are tangible solutions that provide a quick reassurance and results.
"But, if a young person is looking for a knife, then we are too late, and they are already on the path to causing harm."
The family said the upcoming public inquiry into the Southport attacks would "serve the purpose" of improving things for parents, caregivers and school-leavers.
Mr Foster told the Commons: "I commend that child's parents for having the courage to write that, and the concern that they have clearly that this is going to happen again.
"I urge all members of this House to please work together for the victims, for the families, and let's please deal with this once and for all."
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Turns out the bubble headed sheep shagger did it because he wanted a veyron and a fancy watch. Nothing to do with any peaceful religions no-sir-ee
 
anklyscr said:
Turns out the bubble headed sheep shagger did it because he wanted a veyron and a fancy watch. Nothing to do with any peaceful religions no-sir-ee
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If you asked them why liking Tate would lead them to committing acts of violence, they might say that Tate had them "angry at society" or made them "violently misogynistic" I.E. the same exact things a strong adherence to Islam would induce; all for the sake of protecting the image of their imports. They're incredibly eager to put the blame on literally anything or anybody else.
Rudakubana wiped much of his internet search history before the attack and it is not known whether he ever viewed material linked to Mr Tate.
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Even the article admits that the parent's fears aren't based on anything. That crossbow guy is a gift to the powers that be since it lets them deflect blame from Islam and parrot the same narrative to people who don't know better. I do genuinely think it'll do fuck all in the long run, assuming Reform's polling also indicates that more people are willing to cast a wider net with regards to where they get their news from.

To further add fuel to the pathetic nature of this narrative: 'It can only now be reported because Judge Mr Justice Bennathan excluded the evidence from the trial, saying that it was of "limited relevance" and too prejudicial.'
The judge overseeing the crossbow killer's trial admitted the evidence that Tate influenced him is pretty much an asspull, but the media and government is running and screaming with the narrative that Tate is society's greatest danger, an ideological poison to the minds of men both old and young, just because.
Clifford had been searching YouTube for Tate's podcast the day before the murders and is believed to have watched up to 10 of the influencer's videos.

One of Louise Hunt's friends had previously asked why he was watching one of Tate's videos involving drugged animals and he said: "Because it's funny," it was said during legal argument before the trial.

Prosecutors argued the "violent misogyny promoted by Tate" was the same kind that "fuelled both the murders" and the rape" committed by Clifford.

Alison Morgan KC said his interest in the "widely known misogynist" helped to explain why he became so "incandescent with rage" after she ended the relationship.
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Yeah, resentful ex-boyfriend? Too cliché. No, he was pushed into being an misogynistic extremist whose only recourse after a breakup was murder thanks to watching 10 Andrew Tate videos.
 
Otterly said:
They were in charge for over a decade before this. It’s their fault too. I loathe labour with the heat of a thousand suns but a lot of this happened on a Tory watch. ALL our political class is morally bankrupt and it has destroyed our country. We need people in charge who have the balls to clean things up, and I don’t really see anyone who is capable.
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Agree. I'm a natural conservative (small c) and have given them my vote several times. Last time went for Reform, and was actually locked in as a candidate for them before I decided to go abroad for a year. Now I see that party tearing itself apart and I'm just disallusioned with the whole process. As you say, give the Tories a decade in charge, things got WORSE. There's a sliver of hope with a new party (almost impossible under our system), and it immediately implodes. It's seems to me that there's no voting our way out of this madness.
 
Inquisitor_BadAss said:
The most annoying thing about buying from what I've seen isn't even the deposit or even finding somewhere it's the fees.
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The fucking searches. When I was buying my current place, I originally was going for a house that the other end of the road. Searches performed, everything was fine, aside from all the fees I had to pay for the privilege. Then the owner started dithering and delaying - old fella didn't want to leave the home he'd spent the last 40 years in, I suppose - so I went looking. This place, literally ten doors down, popped up on the market, so I switched. Cue all the same searches, for the same damn street, at the same cost, even though I had literally all the information right in my hand. It's a racket.
 
A friendly reminder that during Covid Labour were taught advising one another to take advantage of the situation to weaken the Tories.

Them doing the same with three dead children is par for the course.
 
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The fucking searches. When I was buying my current place, I originally was going for a house that the other end of the road. Searches performed, everything was fine, aside from all the fees I had to pay for the privilege. Then the owner started dithering and delaying - old fella didn't want to leave the home he'd spent the last 40 years in, I suppose - so I went looking. This place, literally ten doors down, popped up on the market, so I switched. Cue all the same searches, for the same damn street, at the same cost, even though I had literally all the information right in my hand. It's a racket.
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Whoa there buddy, you might be within 250m of an abandoned mineshaft.
 
Overly Serious said:
It's not Caucasian, sure. But it's not modern Ashkenazi jew either who have quite dubious links to Jews of Jesus's time. My main point.

Anyway, what matters most is his message, of course.
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This “not real Jews” thing is fucking retarded. They’d have ended up on the same cattle wagons to the death camps as other types of Jews and the same autists on here think they also control the weather.

I’m sure there’s plenty of Jew sperging threads you can do it in.

This is a Greggs. Order a sausage roll or a pasty or fuck off.

Enjoy your fudge doughnut.
 
I can't comment on Tate as I've never seen any of his videos myself and it would be wrong to judge not having an idea of what he espouses. However it seems as though he fills a void in the lives of his acolytes,perhaps one created by the absence of a strong, authoritarian male role model.
 
FedPostalService said:
AI won’t do this job. Avoiding power levelling but it’s something that I’m involved with implementing and a few friends are in other sectors.

It’s only a threat to listicle writing journalists and lazy graphic designers who fancy themselves as artists.
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Have to disagree. If you're doing implementations with currently available AI tools at best you're about ~2 years behind where I am on working the cutting edge of AI tech. The very latest of the research in my area could easily replace large numbers of office jobs already. It's just a matter of time for it to trickle down into products usable by companies/govts.

Now, the UK govt actually being able to assess, design and implement these tools in a timely manner? I doubt that'll happen any time before 2040 tbh.
 
Overly Serious said:
Whilst conversely I've never watched any Andrew Tate videos.
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Everyone keep calm and move slowly towards the exits.

Overdrive said:
Now, the UK govt actually being able to assess, design and implement these tools in a timely manner? I doubt that'll happen any time before 2040 tbh.
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What will happen is this: A committee will be created to discuss the matter and generate an effective development plan, which will take around two years. At the request of this committee, an an inter-departmental review will be carried out, which will take into account all of the various interlocking factors, and keeping in mind the needs and views of all stakeholders and participants; at the conclusion of this three year review, a decision shall be made to trial the technology in a new, temporary organisation that will probably be called something along the lines of the Office for Assessing Technological Sustainability, access to which shall initially be limited to a smaller department and only by request. This office will of course need to be fully staffed, and likewise the chosen trialing department will have to appoint a liaising officer and appropriate support staff to fully interface with the new Office during the trial period. The Office will then initiate an assessment of the available technologies, with a view to establishing a preferred supplier within a period of no more than five years and no less than two, in order to ensure a full and frank appraisal of the means available to perform their duties. Once such an assessment has been carried out, the preferred supplier will be requested to submit a costing estimate for supply of a system that shall perform whatever duties shall be required of it.

The end result of all of this will be a new, permanent bureaucracy surrounding access to AI, mediated through OATS, which will amount to a dozen or so managers at OATS and one intern who feeds requests into the most expensive ChatGPT tier, then sends the answers back to the requesting parties in a manila folio. Every department that needs access to OATS will in turn require a liaising officer and an appropriate support staff. In the interim, thousands of inter-departmental memos will have been sent, filed, requested, re-posted, copied, and collated into reports, which will be circulated as needed to various committees and sub-committees, all carrying out this necessary, indeed absolutely vital work in service of the nation and the establishment of every greater efficiency of employment within the civil service.

Savings will be negligible or non-existent, but all of the newly employed officers will be able to work so much more efficiently than they could have before.
 
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