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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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@Hazel Motes yes, couples still exist. But focusing on them when we know there's a problem isn't helpful either. There are regular articles published about how young people are having less sex and getting into fewer relationships, here's the first one that came up: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-48184848
and porn researchers such as gail dines are not able to find control groups for studies on the affects of watching porn because so many men do it at least semi-regularly. Official statistics (US) say 46% of men do and 16% of women do - which is a big gap - and who's to say how many of those women are women?
Are you going to go over to idk bluesky right now and go: don't think about the fact that you lost over the they/them advert, focus on the people who do support gender!
And good for you having people around you that don't like to bring up their sexual interests or talk about sex, but that is not my experience. It might be where I'm based or my age that makes the difference.
 
And good for you having people around you that don't like to bring up their sexual interests or talk about sex, but that is not my experience. It might be where I'm based or my age that makes the difference.
It's because you're a weird faggot. The reason everyone around you is apparently a gross, porn addled wreck, is probably because you're also a gross, porn addled wreck.
 
It's because you're a weird faggot. The reason everyone around you is apparently a gross, porn addled wreck, is probably because you're also a gross, porn addled wreck.
Except I don't watch porn and I didn't before either.

I don't know how anyone can read the stinkditch forum, which is full of gooner mtfs and trans hypno sissy shit, and then still deny that porn is a problem just because you don't want to hear it. How are you on the anti-tranny site denying one of the main causes of mtf transitioning?
 
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Except I don't watch porn and I didn't before either.

I don't know how anyone can read the stinkditch forum, which is full of gooner mtfs and trans hypno sissy shit, and then still deny that porn is a problem just because you don't want to hear it. How are you on the anti-tranny site denying one of the main causes of mtf transitioning?
Oi, this thread is for laughing at the UK, not posting about what a scourge trannies and porn are. Can't you at least find the latest misadventure by a porn-rotted English tranny to talk about instead?
 
Oi, this thread is for laughing at the UK, not posting about what a scourge trannies and porn are. Can't you at least find the latest misadventure by a porn-rotted English tranny to talk about instead?
Not a tranny, but I don't think this was posted here despite making headlines across the country:

Man who used AI to create child abuse images jailed for 18 years in UK​

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A man who used artificial intelligence technology to create child sexual abuse imagery was sentenced to 18 years in prison on Monday, in a landmark prosecution over deepfakes in the UK. Hugh Nelson, 27, from Bolton, pleaded guilty to a total of 16 child sexual abuse offences, including transforming everyday photographs of real children into sexual abuse material using AI tools from US software provider Daz 3D. He also admitted encouraging others to commit sexual offences on children. At Bolton Crown Court, Judge Martin Walsh imposed an extended sentence on Nelson, saying he posed a “significant risk” of causing harm to the public. That means Nelson will not be eligible for parole until he has completed two-thirds of his sentence.

The defense tried to use his downward spiral of porn use as a reason to lessen his sentence, but it didn't work.

The now 27-year-old was described by his defence barrister during sentencing as a ‘shy’ and ‘gauche’ individual who led a ‘lonely, socially isolated existence’ in his bedroom at his family home.


The former student, who has a Masters degree in graphics, was said to have ‘fallen down a rabbit-hole’ during the isolation of the Covid pandemic. Defending, Robert Elias said Nelson ‘desperately wanted validation’, pointing to his lack of previous convictions as evidence he had become engrossed in a ‘fantasy life’.


But, with the evidence collected by Greater Manchester Police, the judge determined Nelson’s chilling crimes were far beyond ‘some form of perverted and grotesque fantasy’.

The courts recognise that there's a problem, but all they're using it for is trying to get paedophiles lesser sentences.
 
Another member of the tool's brain trust confirmed to be full of shit.
Oh Christ, there’s nothing worse than Financial Services Labour Mongs. They lie so fucking much and hope they don’t get called out because they call you racist/sexist if you do then disappear when they’re found out. I’d never have expected one to disappear and then reappear as chancellor of the exchequer
 
Who's planning on leaving the UK? It's too far gone, I'm lucky enough to have made it to £100k salary, which means for the next £20k I earn in bonus or payrise, I lose the personal allowance. So I'm in an effective 62% tax rate. While public services get worse, and the government implements policies that actively harm me and the native population. On top of always being aware in London someone might randomly start stabbing people.

I've never visited Singapore but I will be going there for a month next year to try it out. I could transfer to my company office there. I would only be taxed 19%, they are tough on crime and punishment, on paper it seems the perfect place to escape to and raise a family.

I'm interested in knowing where farmers are planning to go, or if you're planning to stick it out in the UK in hope of change.
 
Time for another news roundup. The Independent brings us "places not to be in a traffic accident (most of which are Birmingham)"
Uninsured drivers are a danger to the high street - and new data has revealed the areas where they are most common.

Driving without insurance guarantees that you will pay the full cost of any accident, receive six to eight points on your licence and be fined up to £300. If the case goes to court, offenders can receive an unlimited fine and be disqualified from driving.


But it doesn’t stop tens of thousands from taking to the streets without adequate insurance, and some areas have been found to be far worse than others.

The Midlands appears to be a hotspot for uninsured driving, according to new data from the Motor Insurers’ Bureau (MIB).


Postcodes in Birmingham make up five of the 15 most common areas for uninsured driving, based on the previous two years of claim data made to the MIB.

In 2023 alone, the MIB helped the police seize more than 130,000 vehicles, the bureau said on its website. So far this year, nearly 115,000 uninsured drivers have had their vehicles seized.


“Each year, thousands of people are injured or killed by uninsured drivers and without the correct insurance,” the MIB says.

“Evidence suggests that uninsured vehicles are consistently used to conduct wider criminal activity, and are more likely to be involved in a collision, so by targeting uninsured drivers we can help deter criminal activity and remove their means of transport and make our roads safer.”


Three other areas from the West Midlands are also named in the top 15, including Wolverhampton, Walsall and Solihull, according to MIB data given to Sky News.

Other hotspots include places in London, Thames Valley, South Yorkshire, Greater Manchester and Northumbria.


The data was released as MIB and police forces across the UK begin the week-long Op Drive Insured campaign, which will see police increase their activity in tackling uninsured vehicles while the MIB leads a public awareness campaign in tandem.

Someone in the UK falls victim to an uninsured or hit-and-run driver once every 20 minutes, with an average of 300,000 uninsured vehicles believed to be on the roads every day, according to MIB data.


Uninsured and hit-and-run drivers cost the UK economy up to £2.4 billion each year.

Here is the list of the top 15 postcode hotspots for uninsured driving based on the MIB’s data from the past two years:

  1. B11, Birmingham
  2. B21, Birmingham
  3. DA17, Bexley
  4. WV2, Wolverhampton
  5. NE29, North Tyneside
  6. HP12, Buckinghamshire
  7. B18, Birmingham
  8. SK1, Stockport
  9. B8, Birmingham
  10. WS4, Walsall
  11. CV7, Solihull
  12. BL7, Bolton
  13. B33, Birmingham
  14. DN8, Doncaster
  15. MK7, Milton Keynes

They also provide "fuck you, we want to keep calling our local The Midget." Naturally the pub name is nothing to do with people with that condition. Despite more than twice as many against the rename it'll no doubt go through.
Thousands of people have signed a counter-petition to keep a pub’s “offensive” name after a rebrand was announced.

The Midget, a Greene King pub in Abingdon, Oxfordshire, was first subject of a petition signed by more than 1,300 people calling on the brewery franchise to “recognise the offence of the term and its implications” of the pub’s name.

The name comes from the iconic MG car which was built in the car company’s former factory in Abingdon.

Last week, Greene King said it would rename the pub The Roaring Raindrop in tribute to the last ever land speed record-breaking car produced by MG.

But some locals have objected with more than 2,800 people signing a counter-petition calling on the brewery to reverse the plans to rebrand.


“I’m sure a lot of people will disagree with this decision [to rename the pub] and in my opinion I think it is ridiculous,” the counter-petition’s creator Joe Lawlor wrote. “The naming is part of Abingdon’s history.”

Dr Erin Pritchard, who started the petition to change the pub’s original name, wrote that the name “The Midget” was a term “popularised during the Victorian freak show, but unfortunately continues to be used as a form of hate speech towards people with dwarfism”.


She later added: “It is good to see that Greene King is open to addressing concerns about disablist hate speech. The term midget is a form of disablist hate speech, which I and most other people with dwarfism, have experienced as a form of bullying, including it having it shouted at us by strangers.

“It is a term that should be consigned to the history books.”

Zoe Bowley, the managing director of Greene King pubs, said the company had thought “long and hard” about rebranding, and that it was grateful for Dr Pritchard raising awareness of the offence the term can cause.


“We hope that making the change in this way helps to preserve our pub’s historic links to Abingdon’s past while simultaneously ensuring our pub can be a place where everyone feels welcome,” she added.

The pub was originally called The Magic Midget after its opening in 1974 - the nickname of the car which broke the world land speed record in 1932. It was renamed to The Midget in 2002.


MG cars were produced in Abingdon from 1929 until the factory’s closure in 1980.

Immense police overreach again.
Three of Britain’s biggest police forces were involved in the investigation into a Telegraph journalist’s social media post.
Allison Pearson, an award-winning writer, is being investigated by Essex Police for allegedly stirring up racial hatred in a social media post last November.
The force has refused to tell her any details about which post on X, formerly Twitter, is being investigated, or who made the complaint against her.
Two police officers called at her home at 9.40am on Remembrance Sunday to tell her she was under investigation and invited her to a voluntary interview. She was told, however, that the officers were not allowed to disclose the specific focus of the inquiry.

The scale of the investigation has now become clear, with officers from the Metropolitan Police, Sussex Police and Essex Police all having handled the complaint over the past year.
The Telegraph understands that the post was reported to the Metropolitan Police as a potential breach of the Malicious Communications Act in November last year. The case was then passed to Sussex Police, which marked it as a possible non-crime hate incident (NCHI) as well as a potential malicious communication.
Sussex Police passed it to Essex, where Pearson lives. It is understood Essex made two assessments of the complaint before opening an investigation under section 17 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to material allegedly “likely or intended to cause racial hatred”, and visiting her house.

What is a non-crime hate incident?​

The College of Policing states that it is any incident where a crime has not been committed, but where it is perceived by the reporting person or any other person that the incident was motivated by hostility or prejudice based on:
  • A person’s race or perceived race, including any racial group or ethnic background including countries within the UK, and gypsy and traveller groups;
  • A person’s religion or perceived religion, including any religious group including those who have no faith in a theology;
  • A person’s sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation;
  • A person’s disability or perceived disability including physical disability, learning disability and mental health or developmental disorders;
  • A person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender, including people who are transsexual, transgender, cross dressers and those who hold a gender recognition certificate under the Gender Recognition Act 2004.
While there is no specific sanction for a non-crime incident, it can be recorded by police if an incident is initially reported as a crime. But it is not clear from the report whether a crime has been committed or not.
It can also be recorded where the alleged behaviour falls short of criminal activity, but the surrounding circumstances suggest that the behaviour may contribute to – or become evidence of – a course of criminal conduct.
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The move has prompted a major backlash from senior MPs, a leading barrister and Elon Musk, the world’s richest man, amid claims it is an “Orwellian” over-reaction and a potential threat to free speech.
Writing for The Telegraph, Geoffrey Robertson, a prominent human rights lawyer who founded the respected Doughty Street Chambers, said an investigation should only proceed “if damage has demonstrably been done during the time it was up” before it was “quickly deleted”.

He added: “It is silly to blame the Government, or the Home Secretary, for what may simply be a case of over-zealous or under-competent policemen. But it is right to watch closely and consider whether the quickly deleted opinion could be such as to justify the intervention of the state.”
He warned that the state had no right to “suppress” free speech “unless it is intended to incite violence or is so inflammatory that it is likely to do so”.

Priti Patel, the former home secretary and now the shadow foreign secretary, claimed Labour had allowed its MPs to post “hateful and insulting content with impunity” while journalists were “falling victim to the sinister efforts of some to curtail free speech”.
She made the comments after Dawn Butler, a Labour MP, shared a social media post accusing Kemi Badenoch of representing “white supremacy in blackface”. Sir Keir Starmer said she “shouldn’t have said what she did” but resisted calls to strip her of the whip.
Essex has said Pearson’s alleged offence is being treated as a criminal matter, and not a non-crime hate incident.
Pearson said she was told on Sunday that it was a non-crime hate incident as well as allegedly inciting racial hatred. Essex Police has accused The Telegraph of presenting “wholly inaccurate information” as fact.
On Thursday, day Downing Street confirmed that the Home Office is reviewing how police record non-crime hate incidents to ensure that free speech is protected and officers are not distracted from their core task of fighting crime.
However, the Prime Minister’s official spokesman backed police recording non-crime hate incidents where it was “proportionate and necessary” to do so in order to help prevent serious crimes that could result from them at a later date.

In September, the police watchdog warned that forces were recording too many hate crime incidents and getting involved in disputes that include “hurt feelings”.
The report found officers were having to take action that “may appear to contradict common sense”, according to Andy Cooke, the chief inspector of constabulary.
Last year, Suella Braverman, the former home secretary, raised the threshold for non-crime hate incidents because of free speech concerns. The move meant non-crime hate incidents should only be recorded if they were “clearly motivated by intentional hostility” and there was a “real risk of escalation causing significant harm or a criminal offence”.
Yvette Cooper, the Home Secretary, is looking to reverse this for anti-Semitic and Islamophobic abuse, which she is concerned is being overlooked because of the new threshold, which prevents police from recording incidents that could escalate into serious violence or crime.
The No 10 spokesman said: “It’s important that the police can capture data relating to non crime hate incidents where it is proportionate and necessary to do so to help prevent serious crimes which may later occur.
“As we have previously said, the Home Office is looking at how to do this whilst also balancing the fundamental right of free speech, and ensuring that the police can spend their time dealing with the issues that matter most to our communities.”

Fraser Nelson, the former editor of The Spectator, said the Pearson case was “atrocious”, adding: “Why should the police ever be put in a position where they are having to speak to people about a crime that they can’t mention?”
Toby Young, the director of the Free Speech Union, a campaign group supporting Pearson, has criticised the use of non-crime hate incidents.
He said it was “alarming” that non-crime hate incidents “can show up on your criminal record when you apply for a job”, adding: “The fact that you have committed a ‘non-crime’ is quite serious.”
An Essex Police spokesman said: “As a police force, we investigate matters which are reported to us without fear or favour, no matter who makes a report or to whom the incident concerns.”
The force said it was awaiting confirmation of Pearson’s available dates to attend a voluntary interview on the issue. Pearson has said that she is minded to attend with her lawyer.
Essex Police has set up a “gold group” usually reserved for dealing with major crimes to handle the investigation into a Telegraph journalist’s social media post.
Allison Pearson, an award-winning writer, is being investigated by the force for allegedly stirring up racial hatred with a social media post made in November last year.
In a visit to Pearson’s house, officers refused to tell her any details about which post on X, formerly Twitter, was being investigated, or who made the complaint against her.
Pearson said that officers told her that the matter was being treated as a non-crime hate incident rather than a criminal investigation.
The force claims this is “wholly inaccurate” and said that “as the public would expect” it had body-worn video of the encounter which it claimed “entirely supports our position”.

It came as a county councillor accused Essex Police of “institutional incompetence and dysfunction on an epic scale”, and it emerged that the force had admitted it was unable to send an emergency response to all 999 calls about drug dealing.
The Telegraph previously revealed the scale of the year-long inquiry, which involved officers from the Metropolitan Police, Sussex Police and Essex Police all having handled the complaint over the past year.
On Friday, it emerged the force had set up a gold group, usually used to deal with major incidents such as terror attacks, to deal with the investigation.
The purpose of gold groups is to ensure the “effectiveness of ongoing police response” and they are usually headed by an assistant chief constable or above.
His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Services say a gold group is set up to “improve the police response to an incident, crime or other matter”.
The guidance states: “This involves bringing together appropriately skilled and qualified interested parties who can advise, guide or otherwise support the management of an effective response to the identified incident, crime or other matter.”

The Telegraph understands that the social media post in question was reported to the Metropolitan Police as a potential breach of the Malicious Communications Act in November last year. The case was then passed to Sussex Police, which marked it as a possible non-crime hate incident (NCHI), as well as a potential malicious communication.
Sussex Police passed it to Essex, where Pearson lives. It is understood Essex made two assessments of the complaint before opening an investigation under section 17 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to material allegedly “likely or intended to cause racial hatred”, and visiting her house.

The investigation into Pearson has been labelled as a “chilling” attack on free speech by a force that has “prioritised diversity over real crime”.
Councillor Neil Gregory, a substitute member of the Essex Police, Fire and Crime Panel, accused Essex Police of “institutional incompetence and dysfunction on an epic scale”.
He told The Telegraph: “It is certainly the impression I get that they are prioritising diversity over real crime.
“Sadly the appalling treatment of Allison is merely the tip of the iceberg of an obsession with diversity, neglect of crime and institutional incompetence and dysfunction on an epic scale.
“CC [Chief Constable Ben-Julian] Harrington is more concerned with promoting diversity than dealing with crime, indeed his divisional commander for Uttlesford and Braintree made it clear at a public meeting that they will not address active and public drug dealing due to lack of resources, Essex Police appear to have resources to chase those sending tweets on Remembrance Sunday but not for catching drug dealers in broad daylight.
“There is a bizarre set of priorities. We have a bad drug-dealing problem, we have a very under-resourced policing panel and you go on the various Twitter feeds of various officers and it’s all about the latest diversity courses they have gone to.”

What is a non-crime hate incident?​

The College of Policing states that it is any incident where a crime has not been committed, but where it is perceived by the reporting person or any other person that the incident was motivated by hostility or prejudice based on:
  • A person’s race or perceived race, including any racial group or ethnic background including countries within the UK, and gypsy and traveller groups;
  • A person’s religion or perceived religion, including any religious group including those who have no faith in a theology;
  • A person’s sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation;
  • A person’s disability or perceived disability including physical disability, learning disability and mental health or developmental disorders;
  • A person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender, including people who are transsexual, transgender, cross dressers and those who hold a gender recognition certificate under the Gender Recognition Act 2004.
While there is no specific sanction for a non-crime incident, it can be recorded by police if an incident is initially reported as a crime. But it is not clear from the report whether a crime has been committed or not.
It can also be recorded where the alleged behaviour falls short of criminal activity, but the surrounding circumstances suggest that the behaviour may contribute to – or become evidence of – a course of criminal conduct.
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Essex Police have been accused of ignoring 999 calls from concerned residents about drug deals on the streets, according to documents obtained by The Telegraph.
Documents also revealed that Essex Police would not “dispatch a patrol car” every time it received a tip-off from a concerned resident.
At a community meeting in Uttlesford in February this year, police were told residents often saw drug deals being done in public and they believed police were not doing anything about it.
“We noted the number of residents at the meeting who expressed concerns about apparent open drug dealing in various communities across the district and the seeming lack of response to those activities when reported,” according to Mr Gregory.
“It was made clear that 999 calls on overt drug dealing would not be pursued.”

In response, Roger Hirst, the Essex Police Fire and Crime Commissioner, told several representatives who attended the meeting that the force took drug-related crime “very seriously”.
However, every call from the public “won’t always be by dispatching a patrol car”, he said.
“It will more often be by using intelligence, building strong cases and taking away their ability to exploit and manipulate the children and young people they rely on to fuel this business.”
With some residents still unhappy about the Essex Police’s response to drug crimes, Andy Marriner, the Essex Police Assistant Chief Constable, wrote to “assure” local councillors that the force “tackles drug dealing robustly and continues to listen to the concerns of the district’s residents”.
He outlined several drug stings that had resulted in arrests and urged residents to continue to contact police with any information.
“We are also progressing several investigations in the district which have commenced as a result of the community sharing information with us,” Assistant Chief Constable Marriner said in the email.
“The more we receive the more we are able to continue to take action where appropriate, and I would ask that you encourage your district’s residents to continue reporting their observations with as much detail as possible to assist us in building the picture of what is occurring in their area for all crimes so that we can take forward.”

A spokesman for Essex Police said: “Officers went to a residential address to arrange a time to do an interview with a woman about a complaint made by a member of the public.
“That’s why, under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984, no further information was provided – this call was made by officers, who were in the area at the time, to simply set up a time to speak in the coming days.
“At no stage during the short interaction between the woman and our officers was she informed that the report being investigated was being treated as a non-crime hate incident. To suggest otherwise is wholly inaccurate and misleading.
“As the public would expect, we have body-worn video of this interaction which entirely supports our position in this respect.”
The spokesman said the force took drug-related crime “very seriously” and its work had resulted in drug dealers being jailed for a total of 800 years in 2023.
They said: “In total across Essex last year, we arrested 440 people on suspicion of drug dealing offences; 305 were charged – a 70 per cent charge rate.
“The rate of drug offences in Uttlesford is half that of the rest of the country. There are 1.6 drug offences per 1,000 people in Uttlesford, across Essex that is 3 per 1,000.”
 
Who's planning on leaving the UK? It's too far gone, I'm lucky enough to have made it to £100k salary, which means for the next £20k I earn in bonus or payrise, I lose the personal allowance. So I'm in an effective 62% tax rate. While public services get worse, and the government implements policies that actively harm me and the native population. On top of always being aware in London someone might randomly start stabbing people.

I've never visited Singapore but I will be going there for a month next year to try it out. I could transfer to my company office there. I would only be taxed 19%, they are tough on crime and punishment, on paper it seems the perfect place to escape to and raise a family.

I'm interested in knowing where farmers are planning to go, or if you're planning to stick it out in the UK in hope of change.
Yep I'm most of the way into planning my escape now, also to South East Asia. I considered North America but the visa situation for the US isnt the best and Canada is on the same path as the UK so that was a no too.

I also went above £100k salary in the last few years so tax is one of the biggest drivers for me leaving (I paid nearly £20k in tax on a bonus just a couple month ago alone), some of the others being the insanity around the laws and the increasingly rapid decline in quality of life here.
 
Oh Christ, there’s nothing worse than Financial Services Labour Mongs. They lie so fucking much and hope they don’t get called out because they call you racist/sexist if you do then disappear when they’re found out. I’d never have expected one to disappear and then reappear as chancellor of the exchequer
Claiming you work as an economist at an investment bank when you actually work at the complaints department of a retail bank is the equivalent of claiming you're an F1 driver when you're really the guy that washes the pit crew's sweaty jock straps after the race.
That's not stretching the truth or a little cv embellishment, it's an outright, blatant lie and anyone with the most basic knowledge of the industry will tell you this.
 
Another member of the tool's brain trust confirmed to be full of shit.
Might this be resignation bait, load up a shit budget leak the past lie to load all the bad feels on the patsy and scupper her in a few months?
Rayner has the she=balls to see off this sort of thing as seen with the council house hand wringing but Reeves seems... softer.
 
>Fucks up economy
>Lies about credentials
>Keeps job

>Saves economy
>Best PM in 100 years
>Loses job.

Make it make sense.
 
Who's planning on leaving the UK? It's too far gone, I'm lucky enough to have made it to £100k salary, which means for the next £20k I earn in bonus or payrise, I lose the personal allowance. So I'm in an effective 62% tax rate. While public services get worse, and the government implements policies that actively harm me and the native population. On top of always being aware in London someone might randomly start stabbing people.

I've never visited Singapore but I will be going there for a month next year to try it out. I could transfer to my company office there. I would only be taxed 19%, they are tough on crime and punishment, on paper it seems the perfect place to escape to and raise a family.

I'm interested in knowing where farmers are planning to go, or if you're planning to stick it out in the UK in hope of change.
I obtained my TEFL last month. I am not highly paid but I save money easy enough. I want to leave after March of next year after my holiday in the USA. I would love to move Bulgaria, that would be ideal, but I understand the competition and may have to settle with Asia for a short while.
 
Who's planning on leaving the UK? It's too far gone, I'm lucky enough to have made it to £100k salary, which means for the next £20k I earn in bonus or payrise, I lose the personal allowance. So I'm in an effective 62% tax rate. While public services get worse, and the government implements policies that actively harm me and the native population. On top of always being aware in London someone might randomly start stabbing people.

I've never visited Singapore but I will be going there for a month next year to try it out. I could transfer to my company office there. I would only be taxed 19%, they are tough on crime and punishment, on paper it seems the perfect place to escape to and raise a family.

I'm interested in knowing where farmers are planning to go, or if you're planning to stick it out in the UK in hope of change.
Chile for farming. Not for city life.
 
I'm interested in knowing where farmers are planning to go, or if you're planning to stick it out in the UK in hope of change.
I left a few years back. I'm a part-time Brit who comes home to earn money so I can live abroad for a while. Rinse and repeat. Every time I get back it gets worse. 25/26 I'm hoping to be working remotely with my own business so I can leave for good.

Want to avoid paying tax? Spend six months a year abroad. Tax free baby.
 
I left a few years back. I'm a part-time Brit who comes home to earn money so I can live abroad for a while. Rinse and repeat. Every time I get back it gets worse. 25/26 I'm hoping to be working remotely with my own business so I can leave for good.

Want to avoid paying tax? Spend six months a year abroad. Tax free baby.
What does your business do? maybe you could set it up in the isle of man
 
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