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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Covid happened four fucking years ago. You are just as bad as the people you're complaining about who can't think beyond the recent past. You're also arguing that words only have meaning because we assign them meaning but that's the exact fucking bullshit behind the tranny movement. The EXACT argument.

Also, terrorists and their enablers like Shamima Begum were not radicalised in person. You're just completely behind the times, you're on kiwifarms and you don't even understand how gender id works, like ROGD, or how the internet is radicalising people. Why are you here?

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My opinion on the policing of speech is "it should almost all be fair game, unless it's Islamic extremism or something similar", which is not a hypocritical position if you hold "the preservation of the English people" as an axiomatic moral principle instead of "foreigners should always be entitled to all of the rights of native citizens".
 
My opinion on the policing of speech is "it should almost all be fair game, unless it's Islamic extremism or something similar", which is not a hypocritical position if you hold "the preservation of the English people" as an axiomatic moral principle instead of "foreigners should always be entitled to all of the rights of native citizens".
He doesn't, he's already said he's in favour of islamic extremist preachers like hamza saying whatever they like.
 
Rose tinted glasses.

Female internet socialization gets extremely batshit in its own weird way. See: tumblr.
I'm extremely familiar with tumblr, I ided as trans as a teenager because of there. It's a constant back and forth here between people who think all ftms are rape victims or all ftms are fujoshis, but a lot of it is simply down to feeling like there's no option to get treated like a human by boys your own age if you're female. Which is gender war shit.
 
>Autistically flails around in thread, comparing free speech to gender wars
>Admits to being trans as a teen
>lol, lmao even.
my main point was "Words mean nothing" followed by strong words that, mean nothing.
literally says words mean nothing, doesn't understand why that's the same argument as 'trans women are women'. Claims not to get upset by people saying strong words on the internet. Keeps autistic stickering other people in the present day, not a decade ago.
 
It couldn't be that you responded then deleted and put an autistic sticker on my post because you had a negative response to words on the internet could it?
I didn’t respond or sticker you, no. I agree that women’s spaces have been bulldozed by trannies, and that sucks. Both sexes need those spaces, it’s a release valve we don’t have any more. I don’t agree women on the internet are sane though, I think everyone is infected with where madness. Never been on tumblr, only seen it via here. It looks grim
I'm no pr expert but I'd stop using the phrase kiddie crack if I were you.
It is like a drug,
I just realised the double meaning. Gross.
 
I didn’t respond or sticker you, no. I agree that women’s spaces have been bulldozed by trannies, and that sucks. Both sexes need those spaces, it’s a release valve we don’t have any more. I don’t agree women on the internet are sane though, I think everyone is infected with where madness. Never been on tumblr, only seen it via here. It looks grim

It is like a drug,
I just realised the double meaning. Gross.
You ever seen a kid eat blue smarties?
 
I nearly stood up and clapped reading that post. Absolute perfection.




These two points made me pause for thought. I knew the younger generation were different because of the internet, but I never put 2+2 together, until I read that, that they're a separate species. They share so little in common with how we view and understand the real world, and the separation between the ethereal internet and real life, that they are not pure Homo Sapiens.

As an addition to that, there are blokes I work with who are 45-50, who haven't suffered arrested development like most 30-40 year olds, but are just a little...off in their personalities. You've made me realise that these poor sods were locked in isolation, some away from their wives and children, and have suffered regressed development; they seem to be childlike in their absolute obedience to authority, while happy to throw social order and cohesion to the wind. As if the two are crossed wires in their minds.


The mental health crisis is mental though. Whenever I meet a new coworker or whatever and the small talk gets on to families, the usual question of "do you have kids?" is always answered "Yeah, I have X children, Y of them are autistic". Ok, I didn't ask about their medical histories but thanks. Everyone has an autistic child and they MUST tell you immediately. There was a time when such affliction was best not to be made public knowledge.
Bro is effortposting 💀
 
I didn’t respond or sticker you, no. I agree that women’s spaces have been bulldozed by trannies, and that sucks. Both sexes need those spaces, it’s a release valve we don’t have any more. I don’t agree women on the internet are sane though, I think everyone is infected with where madness. Never been on tumblr, only seen it via here. It looks grim
That was at Bog-standard Poster's malding, not you.
 
Christ, watching PMQs from the other day. The PM is literally planting questions, ostensibly to him, that mostly consisted of poorly disguised attacks on the tories. Even then he was just refusing to answer with anything other than repetition of the same "we have inherited a 22 billion black hole" mantra and promises of huge payments to all and sundry. He looked absolutely livid when Badenoch was asking him actual questions.
 
Girls want to socialise irl. Boys don't. Boys want to stay home and goon to porn, and that's been a problem since the 70s, it just got worse with smartphones. Gender wars - aka women not wanting to put up with sex addicts - has just been getting worse since the 70s too. When you talk to 30 year old men they are unbelievably fucking weird and romanticise weird shit like having to find porn magazines in bushes pre-internet. They bring this shit up so much. This is also where all the age gap shit is coming from ... nobody wants to date these men, they're all fucking weird and predatory because they've all watched so much porn that they say that they know it's not real but they secretly think they can act it out in real life. There are no men left who don't zombify themselves on porn. Women internet is if you remove the gender war shit just doing dances on tiktok which doesn't hurt anybody.
Mary Midgley, arguably the most influential post-war philosopher, dubbed this tendency as 'nothing buttery'.

There's a desire of the mind to make everything under one rule to suit our emotional state. All men are nothing but perverts. All women are nothing but whores. We're all nothing but greedy and selfish (isn't it the funny the most selfish people say that?) In Hobbes and Nietzsche, there is a similar attempt at appearing objective and scientific when it is clear both authors are emotionally attached to violence (though both take that feeling in different ways). The Sickly Warrior, Nietzsche, had the anxiety that comes from being physically weak and desiring to be strong. In his books he really was strong, but in the body, he was not. That fed a lot of his attitudes.

When someone says they're not a pervert or a whore, they're lying. Most of all to themselves. Your exceptions merely prove the rule! The exceptions merely complicate things. Goodness never existed. Romance, oh it is just a lie, a trick of the brain. Do you not see, do you not see what is going on right now, inside me? That's all of experience, right here.

The past is seen through our vision. History will never satisfy the living ego.

I remember a couple years ago on here, a bloke who disliked Fuentes deduced every Catholic as a closeted homosexual. It just had to be. Why Nick Fuentes, a man who openly admits to having no spirituality, is a Catholic and gay. His followers are groypers. Groypers are often Catholics. There's a pattern emerging. There's logic that fits perfectly into his head: Catholics must be gay and attracted to trannys.

Believing things like this makes life incredibly easy. We're systemisers and listmakers at heart. And a simple system is far easier to remember than a complicated one. It took me years to accept that I had so many prejudices that were unfounded, driven by other emotions and other desires. I had reasoned everyone's actions was pure self-interest. It made me despise people. I was paranoid about them and about the safety of my money. Then one day, I had a rude awakening. I was forced to face a hard reality. In that time, several people, men and women, did something I had not expected, they helped me without reward. They took pity, and I was undeserving, for I had brought everything down onto myself, but they still helped me. How strange, how bizarre. You would think I had been grateful, and I was, but I was annoyed that I, Mr. Genuis, had been humbled.

Of course we are self-interested, the species would have died out without a little narcissism, but were the soldiers who sacrificed themselves in wars really in it for themselves?

Our imaginations are often our reason's worst enemy. People grow and die in our estimation when their bodies are absent from us. There they are discovered to be far more interesting, or far duller, than they actually are. We love to abstract people or ideas. We can reason just about everything to ourselves, like Hermann Karlovich in Nabokov's Despair, who simply knows his doubleganger is a homeless man in Switzerland and that if he murders him and dresses him up, then no one will notice the difference. I don't think I need to say what happens in actuality.

I think men and women both, though most grow out of it, have this opinion of the opposite sex of being one thing or the other. Due to the sexdrive, this will always be the case. Nietzsche said love was based on a mutual distaste for the opposite gender. Love was exclusionary. The opposite gender, due to consciousness, are forever a mystery. That's a good thing, obviously. Life should be a mystery and adventure even when sitting down at a computer. If you don't see the fun of it, then make it fun.

Perhaps it is just me though. Not once in the outside world have I ever talked to a friend about porn habits. I have never spotted, though I have lived with many different types of men, the dark underbelly of desire. I have never witnessed, outside of films, someone wistfully reminiscing about porn mags. I think the only time anyone ever talked about porn, both boys and girls, was at school and involving two girls one cup. Perhaps I am the last prude, but I rarely talk about sex unless something funny happened.

Maybe I am lying to myself. I have been sheltered for too long. I need therapy. Freedom has made people uncanny psychologists of one another, looking through to each other and seeing the nothing that is rich human experience. That precise gaze never goes into our own minds and judgements however, which is a shame, for it is usually the only one we are fit to judge.

We talk a lot of lonely people, and we should look at the causes (porn is one of them) yet never notice the happy couples. Young people with healthy erotic behaviours. England, despite how shitty I think it has become, has a lot of them. A young man and a young woman, deeply in love. Perhaps involving a little delusion, perhaps involving a little foolishness, but occasionally romance ekes into our lives and makes it liveable.

Test yourself sometime: when you are out on the street and spot a young couple, what is your first emotional reaction? Is it joy or it is disgust? Then ask yourself, does that joy or disgust say more about the couple or about you?
 
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