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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[EddyRooney]

It was a woman Eddy!

Oh. You're one of those...
If it's got a sausage Chunky, it's not a woman.......and it still counts even if you did shut your eyes.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Which is why I find it so mind numbing that people will nod seriously as if the desert nonces big book of tardisms is something to respect.

It's going to get exponentially worse next month. Ramadan starts on the 17th of February and ends right around Easter.

I'm going to eat bacon in public whenever I can.

It was a woman Eddy!

It's ma'am saar please!

Adil Ray risks fresh social media row as ITV GMB star shares post saying 'I hate white people' after Sharia law controversy

Adil Ray is the sort of "moderate" who would point at the prayer exceptions I mentioned before and say that it's proof Islam is actually good, despite the evidence right in front of everyone's eyes. The sort that plays those "I'm not touching you" games to provoke a reaction, so he can cry about being oppressed and victimised.

 

[>IMPLYING]

I think this is an interesting consideration. Leftists have forgotten that they need to make the case for not being racist. Instead, they view it as some kind of fundamental, self-evident required state of being. A natural law, like gravity or electromagnetism.

I understand, I probably thought that when I was about eleven years old.

But when the non-racism is clearly resulting in the enshittification of society, yes they will need to go to the average person on the street and justify why being non-racist is worth it, or even a good thing on general. And in case it's not clear, I mean a good thing for us, for the people of the UK.

I would like to hear some genuine attempts at giving convincing arguments. On the other hand, I fully believe I can "make the case" for being racist (in Greggs).

Their argument was only effective when whites were better off and so being unnecessarily mean to minorities didn't really have any merit besides being a dick. Once upon a time it evened out, no loss, no gain - just being decent.

Now that whites aren't better off and the minorities get away with murder (sometimes literally) on the premise of anti-racism, arguing from empathy doesn't work anymore. Not even the minorities subscribe to it on empathetic grounds, they think they're owed our kindness. Instead of it being argued from decency it's instead argued from obligation.

"You have to care for them because of [X]."
X = "British values", "colonialism", "current year", "social contract", "empathy", "a duty to care", "they're citizens", etc.

"How would you like it if someone was racist against you?" <- this is an example of an argument from empathy that is no longer valid given the minorities are now in positions to do this and suffer no consequence for doing it.

It was kindness conceived from Liberal values but it has now drifted into suicidal altruism. It's a purely fee-fees concept now that is no longer null in benefits and disadvantages like it once was, and it has now become wholly detrimental. It's basically inhuman.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Oh. You're one of those...
If it's got a sausage Chunky, it's not a woman.......and it still counts even if you did shut your eyes.

Cheeky fucker.

It's going to get exponentially worse next month. Ramadan starts on the 17th of February and ends right around Easter.

I have also noticed when shopping that chicken from normal places has spiked again in price, but at Lidl you can buy Halal chicken for literally 1/3rd the price. I legit got tard rage angry in my head upon seeing this, and stared at the prices frowning for a minute. I hate them.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Now that whites aren't better off and the minorities get away with murder (sometimes literally) on the premise of anti-racism, arguing from empathy doesn't work anymore. Not even the minorities subscribe to it on empathetic grounds, they think they're owed our kindness. Instead of it being argued from decency it's instead argued from obligation.

"You have to care for them because of [X]."
X = "British values", "colonialism", "current year", "social contract", "empathy", "a duty to care", "they're citizens", etc.

That’s nail on the head, that is. Anyway, if we’re supposed to be an equal opportunities DEI nation, no-one should be getting a free pass on any shitty behaviour. Which makes you question why they are - especially as so many immigrant groups bring over their petty racist clans from their own countries. This idea that people can’t be racist against whites is exactly the kind of prostration that those who want to take advantage love.

Fuck, I’ve turned into my old, racist uncle. Thanks, KiwiFarms.

 

[>IMPLYING]

That’s nail on the head, that is. Anyway, if we’re supposed to be an equal opportunities DEI nation, no-one should be getting a free pass on any shitty behaviour. Which makes you question why they are - especially as so many immigrant groups bring over their petty racist clans from their own countries. This idea that people can’t be racist against whites is exactly the kind of prostration that those who want to take advantage love.

Fuck, I’ve turned into my old, racist uncle. Thanks, KiwiFarms.

Because they don't want to wrestle with this question the whole issue is tackled as though minorities don't actually factor in. Engaging with the subject of racism as either a natural or unnatural phenomena doesn't provide any savoury answers for the people up top, because it means we're bringing in people who'll naturally prioritise and protect their own to the detriment of those already living here, or the culture being imported is actually less tolerant and thus inferior than our own. From even a cursory glance at the conclusions it's obvious why neither answer wants to be considered from a left-wing POV as it would mean their viewpoint is unnatural or it means acknowledging that some peoples and cultures are actually better than others.

One could argue this continued experiment with diversity is all because the powers that be are just too proud to admit they were wrong.

 

[Otterly]

I've said something before. It wasn't that but it was similarly anti-social behaviour. It resulted in them not completing their journey.

I’m in first class on the way back and it’s far more civilised. Couple of quiet but hardcore drinkers but they’re very civilised about it.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

I feel like 90% of problems with politics is that they just expect to push the problem 20 years down the line and it fixes itself. It can explain why there's endless inquiries upon inquiries and then an inquiry to confirm the results of the inquiry so everything can be pushed forward for the next government.

Everyone knew that the trannies vs women issue and the islam vs gays issue and the immigration issue would eventually come to a head, but everyone just assumed it was in the distant vague future that they'd never have to deal with.

Meanwhile Trump is literally just... fucking doing it. He came in with like 300 things he wanted done on day one and did it. Not all of them were great, but it's a world apart from any trivial policy having to go through the commons then house of lords.

 

[EddyRooney]

the culture being imported is actually less tolerant and thus inferior than our own.

why do you assume that a tolerant culture is a superior culture ?
A tolerant culture surely cannot be a surviving culture in the long term ?
Why do you want to live in a country that has a tolerant culture ? I'm not saying we have to kill everyone that doesn't want to drink tea and wear a bowler hat on their morning commute, but surely a bit of "if you want to visit ( NOT live ) here, you will respect our culture and not introduce your own, if you do try, you will be removed".

"There's only two things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch."​

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I feel like 90% of problems with politics is that they just expect to push the problem 20 years down the line and it fixes itself.

Nearly. They don't expect it to fix itself, they just know that by then it's not their problem anymore.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Now that whites aren't better off

Tell me about it. My boiler is broken at the moment, and the house is freezing. I'm having a miserable time trying to get people to come look at it over Christmas and New Years. Being fobbed off (one guy tells me it's not the boiler, its the pump, now it's some kind of leak, or maybe it is actually the boiler... ), given the run around and paying hundreds of pounds for the privilege.

But if I was a boat wog would I be having these problems? Of course not, I can hear it now "The British government has a duty of care to provide housing, heating, three meals a day...". Well where's the duty of care for me, for my family? Sorry, we were only born here, you need to break into the place to unlock the super secret cheat code to life.

 

[>IMPLYING]

why do you assume that a tolerant culture is a superior culture ?
A tolerant culture surely cannot be a surviving culture in the long term ?
Why do you want to live in a country that has a tolerant culture ? I'm not saying we have to kill everyone that doesn't want to drink tea and wear a bowler hat on their morning commute, but surely a bit of "if you want to visit ( NOT live ) here, you will respect our culture and not introduce your own, if you do try, you will be removed".

"There's only two things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch."​

I meant by the Leftist standard of what constitutes "virtue", tolerance is one such virtue, and only Western/White cultures appear to practice tolerance of any sort. So by Leftist standards, Western/White cultures are superior to their non-Western/non-White counterparts because only the former actually practice tolerance.

 

[teriyakiburns]

(one guy tells me it's not the boiler, its the pump, now it's some kind of leak, or maybe it is actually the boiler... ),

Could be the condensate drain being blocked, depending on the model. Does it make a horrendous gurgling and then fail when you try to start it up? Mine backed up last year when the draining pipe froze and blocked up (whoever installed it used the wrong diameter). I thought the pump had failed, then thought the valve inside had failed,which would have been a much cheaper job.

Chances are they don't want to do a repair because they'd get more money for a replacement.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Could be the condensate drain being blocked, depending on the model. Does it make a horrendous gurgling and then fail when you try to start it up? Mine backed up last year when the draining pipe froze and blocked up (whoever installed it used the wrong diameter). I thought the pump had failed, then thought the valve inside had failed,which would have been a much cheaper job.

Chances are they don't want to do a repair because they'd get more money for a replacement.

Trying not to go too off topic, it was showing an error code indicating overheating, a guy from the manufacturer came out, said it was the pump not working and he since that's not part of the boiler itself I can't help you. Since then had a plumber come out, he had a tinker with the pump, turns out it wasn't working due to the electrics, not the pump itself. So that's fixed, but the heating is still not working because there is still apparently something wrong with the boiler. Flame ignites but then locks out after about ten seconds with the overheating code.

Minus two celcius tonight. Fuuuuuuun times.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

Trying not to go too off topic, it was showing an error code indicating overheating, a guy from the manufacturer came out, said it was the pump not working and he since that's not part of the boiler itself I can't help you. Since then had a plumber come out, he had a tinker with the pump, turns out it wasn't working due to the electrics, not the pump itself. So that's fixed, but the heating is still not working because there is still apparently something wrong with the boiler. Flame ignites but then locks out after about ten seconds with the overheating code.

Minus two celcius tonight. Fuuuuuuun times.

Can you read and google the code?
Can you see the boiler pressure?

Avoiding being ripped off by a plumber is definitely on topic for any Brit.

Also find where the valves are to top up the pressure and do it.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Can you read and google the code?

Yeah, it's 03 which I've googled and means overheating (although in these temperatures, just... how??)

Can you see the boiler pressure?

I didn't know where this was (moved to this house fairly recently), but the plumber did show me where it was and it was on zero bars, which might indicate some other problem but anyway there is now pressure and I'll know how to top it up next time.

Avoiding being ripped off by a plumber is definitely on topic for any Brit.

Not enough rainbows in the world mate. I've made my peace, I just try to earn more money to compensate.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

What do loyalists have

In all fairness fucking Rule Britannia does go incredibly hard. And there's much more people in ROI than NI anyway. They have some fucking banger marching/brass bands whatever they're called, Ulster isn't completely worthless musically it's just they didn't really have a target. It's easy to write a song about England, it's much harder to write a song about a group of people that have only existed for a few decades kinda, especially when half the things you'd take the piss out of them for are the same things that you do anyway.

That being said the best somewhat anti troubles song is 100% sniper's promise.

a guy from the manufacturer came out

From my experience a decent amount of people like this are on some call with some fucking jeet 'engineer' on the other side of the world reading some shitty manual that another retarded jeet wrote that never expected anyone else to read it. Honestly I trust people who have just had to learn how shit works in general, just a guy who knows how boilers work, than someone from a manufacturer who has just memorised the instruction manual.

 

[Made In Wales]

A friend of mine had a similar problem, he did a reset of the boiler and it worked fine after.

Find the reset button on the control panel, press and hold it for 3-10 seconds, then release and wait for the system to restart and clear the error code.

If it fails after two or three attempts, or if you see persistent error codes, call a Gas Safe registered engineer to diagnose the underlying fault, as repeated resets can be damaging.

It may be a pain in the backside financially, but a good engineer will be able to put things right.

@Tom Nook's Gloryhole Trump is doing it the correct way because he is not allowing any power vacuums to form which would derail and delay his policies.

Sometimes you can get away with a 'power vacuum' in business - Nottingham Forest, under the legendary Brian Clough as an example, was run by the Manager and not the Chairman of the day - the Chairman (Derek Pavis, Maurice Roworth or Fred Reacher during Clough's time at The City Ground) did nothing except agree the transfers and pay the wages, yet had more power than the manager.

If you look at what's happened with Starmer and also Johnson, Truss and Sunak - it has been other people and groups who've led the discussions and the PM of the day has effectively been just a nodding donkey who has gone along with things 'because it seems like the right thing to do.'

Look at who Starmer has working for him and ask yourself is Starmer really running the country or is it Gray, McSweeney or other agendaists and infiltrators? Why then is this being allowed?

Why is Starmer allowing himself to be told what to do when he is the second most powerful man in the country and should have the agenda of 'the people first and foremost at all times' and why too did the three previous PM's 'cuck out' when the pressure got to be too much to take?

Farage would, like Trump, not allow any power vacuums whilst in charge and would say 'I am PM and I make the decisions, not some no mark in Whitehall.'

 

[teriyakiburns]

Yeah, it's 03 which I've googled and means overheating (although in these temperatures, just... how??)

Usually means either there's no water in the system, or in the heater coil specifically, or the water isn't flowing properly.

 

[Overly Serious]

If you look at what's happened with Starmer and also Johnson, Truss and Sunak - it has been other people and groups who've led the discussions and the PM of the day has effectively been just a nodding donkey who has gone along with things 'because it seems like the right thing to do.'

I think Liz Truss was ejected because she didn't do what she was told. You don't often see such a determined campaign on all fronts against someone like that. The media had people whipped up into a frenzy to get rid of her. That fucking cabbage. But agree on the rest.