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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

The difficulty with them saying that openly would result in the MSM having an apoplectic fit and demanding that their channel be nuked and that anybody involved with them be arrested.

We can say whatever we want here, it's truly the last bastion of freedom, but on the clear web and social media you can't say 'Infinite Nigger/Paki Death Now' without firstly upsetting the easily upsettable and then having your evening ruined by a visit from PC Plod.

In part yes, however, the Lotus Eaters go out of their way to absolutely fellate the very concept of civic nationalism; while at the same time pretending that they aren't. They don't just speak around the issue, or hint at things, they aggressively and specifically go out of their way to talk about it in a way that is supportive of the idea of merely getting rid of some criminals. They are - despite what they pretend - completely wedded to the idea of post war liberalism, and merely want to carry on with the world as it was in the 1990s.

 

[Made In Wales]

In part yes, however, the Lotus Eaters go out of their way to absolutely fellate the very concept of civic nationalism; while at the same time pretending that they aren't. They don't just speak around the issue, or hint at things, they aggressively and specifically go out of their way to talk about it in a way that is supportive of the idea of merely getting rid of some criminals. They are - despite what they pretend - completely wedded to the idea of post war liberalism, and merely want to carry on with the world as it was in the 1990s.

True, and I've noticed that Sargon/Carl has changed his mind on a lot - I wonder if Jess Phillips got to him, maybe, or he could be considering making a run to be an MP (I doubt Nigel would want him in Reform UK, if you remember him and Dankula being allowed into UKIP when Gerald Batten was leader).

The 80s and 90s now seem like a faraway land, compared to the present, personally I wouldn't mind a 50s type world with less people, more production and employment and where the infrastructure actually works and we can have a common sense society.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

True, and I've noticed that Sargon/Carl has changed his mind on a lot - I wonder if Jess Phillips got to him, maybe, or he could be considering making a run to be an MP (I doubt Nigel would want him in Reform UK, if you remember him and Dankula being allowed into UKIP when Gerald Batten was leader).

The 80s and 90s now seem like a faraway land, compared to the present, personally I wouldn't mind a 50s type world with less people, more production and employment and where the infrastructure actually works and we can have a common sense society.

I think that he was fine with fiery rhetoric when he believed nothing would largely happen. I think that he's probably realising that the actual political divide hasn't settled into a comfortable middle, but rather that both the left and right actually hate each other. I think he legitimately buys into the meme of there being a civil war and wants to slam the breaks as hard as humanly possible to get back to basic bitch civnattery.

Nigel definitely wouldn't want Sargon, not just because he's an internet meme man and already helped murder a political party, but because Sargon won't tongue Nigels balls. Anyone that won't do that, is a liability to the Reform LLC.

 

[FedPostalService]

My brothers in Greggs, stop sucking off Steven Law. I need you all to take a moment and take a step back and think, "wait, everyone else who says this gets arrested, their bank accounts closed, and their family destroyed? Why isn't it happening to them?"

It's turtles all the way down, but those turtles are all Special Branch officers. Please, do not have any IRL involvement with that cunt.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I missed this one.

Green charge on gas boilers will subsidise heat pumps - Ed Miliband’s new levy will form part of his £15 billion warm homes plan, which also includes loans for solar panels and grants for poorer households

tl;dr Mad Ed wants to charge people for the privilege of having a gas combi boiler and use that money to pay for things people don't need or want. The amazing coincidence is that his proposed charge is almost exactly the same as the recently scrapped Energy Company Obligation scheme levy, which added about £30 to the typical energy bill and was meant to be used to subsidise insulation schemes (such as the spray foam insulation shit that is currently turning into yet another national scandal). Puts him right at logger-heads with Rachel, who had scrapped the ECO as part of her pledge to reduce home energy bills. It's like he's completely off the reservation and thinks he's completely untouchable. Given how he refused to be fired by Starmer and simply carried on in his position, he might be right.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

My brothers in Greggs, stop sucking off Steven Law. I need you all to take a moment and take a step back and think, "wait, everyone else who says this gets arrested, their bank accounts closed, and their family destroyed? Why isn't it happening to them?"

It's turtles all the way down, but those turtles are all Special Branch officers. Please, do not have any IRL involvement with that cunt.

It's not about Laws, I was talking about the way that Sargon and his gimp gang in particular reacted to the basic ideas of what he was presenting, and the way they reacted was to go "Oh gosh no, we could never actually implement anything!" The left had no issue with bluntly implementing exactly what they wanted, when they wanted and with giddy follow through. The right seems to be incapable of even just saying "Hey, please stop trying to wipe me out uwu" and it pisses me off.

Ed Miliband’s

It's still so weird that he's even in government.

 

[FedPostalService]

. Given how he refused to be fired by Starmer and simply carried on in his position, he might be right.

I hate Starmer and Miliband (no, not for (((that))) reason) with every fibre of my being but this is a lie that people need to stop repeating. You do not refuse being dismissed from a ministerial post. This is another "use your fucking brain" moment.

It's still so weird that he's even in government.

It's because there's so few people with any grain of sanity left in Labour. They all buggered off when Corbyn was in control to the City or the third sector. The only people who stuck around were retards or neo-liberal globalist just waiting to get back in charge. The fact there's talk openly of him being chancellor should inform us all how utterly fucked Labour are.

 

[teriyakiburns]

You do not refuse being dismissed from a ministerial post. This is another "use your fucking brain" moment.

It's more accurate to say he refused to quit his energy brief during the last reshuffle, in which he was supposed to be moving to Housing. Either he has something on Starmer, or Starmer is too weak-willed to enforce his change, but the end result was Milliband refusing to leave his current office. This isn't entirely out of the ordinary. Powerful and influential politicians can try defy the PM in various ways, at least for a time, or use their power to force a compromise over some issue. A PM with balls would have actually fired Milliband at this point, but instead Starmer just conceded and let him continue in his current post.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Happy New Year you fucking racist incel faggots. For Christmas I asked Santa for a general election to be called so I'm sure we'll get one any day now. I'm sure I was on the nice list, Santa's a fucking old white man I'm sure he doesn't mind all the slurs on this account.

I have managed to survive the NHS. On one hand I fucking hate that brown hands have been inside me, or well, I hate that they were brown when going in not just coming out. On the other hand god fucking bless socalised healthcare, whatever fucking painkillers they had plus a footjob from a loving wife, shits good enough to break the other leg for.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

True, and I've noticed that Sargon/Carl has changed his mind on a lot - I wonder if Jess Phillips got to him, maybe, or he could be considering making a run to be an MP (I doubt Nigel would want him in Reform UK, if you remember him and Dankula being allowed into UKIP when Gerald Batten was leader).

The 80s and 90s now seem like a faraway land, compared to the present, personally I wouldn't mind a 50s type world with less people, more production and employment and where the infrastructure actually works and we can have a common sense society.

Out of everyone on this planet Carl is the last person who should be allowed near the reins of power.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Out of everyone on this planet Carl is the last person who should be allowed near the reins of power.

He promised he wouldn't even rape anyone though.

 

[FedPostalService]

Out of everyone on this planet Carl is the last person who should be allowed near the reins of power.

@Made In Wales Rydych chi'n dechrau dangos ymddygiad yr heddlu.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

@Made In Wales Rydych chi'n dechrau dangos ymddygiad yr heddlu.

He's summoning a great old one!

 

[Eekum Bokum]

@Made In Wales Rydych chi'n dechrau dangos ymddygiad yr heddlu.

Don't worry i got a license.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

He's summoning a great old one!

We need to beat the Welsh more.

Meanwhile 2026 is kicking off as expected. Like a zombie Shamima rears her head once more as somehow there continues to be funding for her legal challenges.

https://archive.ph/tyRyA

The home secretary will "robustly defend" the decision to strip Shamima Begum of her British citizenship, as European judges scrutinise the move, according to a government source.
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has called for an investigation, but a government source said the the decision had already been upheld by UK courts.
Ms Begum was 15 when she travelled from east London to the Middle East, to a territory held by the Islamic State group, where she married a fighter.
Now 26, she was subsequently stripped of her British citizenship on the grounds that she posed a threat to national security but her lawyers say this failed to consider whether she was a victim of grooming and trafficking.

​

The ECHR has asked the Home Office whether ministers at the time considered whether Ms Begum had been a victim, and whether the UK had obligations to her.
But a government source said: "The home secretary will robustly defend the decision to revoke Shamima Begum's citizenship, which has been tested and upheld time and again in our domestic courts.
"The home secretary will always put this country's national security first."
In a document published by the ECHR earlier this month, it states that Ms Begum is challenging the decision to revoke her British citizenship under Article 4 of the European Convention of Human Rights - prohibition of slavery and forced labour.
The case was lodged in December 2024 after the UK's Supreme Court denied her the chance to challenge the decision.
The four questions posed by judges in Strasbourg to the Home Office, include: "Did the Secretary of State have a positive obligation, by virtue of Article 4 of the Convention, to consider whether the applicant had been a victim of trafficking, and whether any duties or obligations to her flowed from that fact, before deciding to deprive her of her citizenship?"
Ms Begum was born in the UK to parents of Bangladeshi heritage and was 15 when she left Bethnal Green, east London, with two schoolfriends in 2015 to support the Islamic State group.
She had married an Islamic State fighter soon after arriving and went on to have three children, none of whom survived.
She was later found in a refugee camp in Syria and a tribunal ruled in February 2020 that because she was "a citizen of Bangladesh by descent" removing her British nationality would not make her stateless.

A series of appeals were made, ending in the decision that she would not be allowed to challenge it at the Supreme Court.
Lawyer Gareth Pierce, who is representing Ms Begum, said it was "impossible to dispute" that a 15-year-old was "lured, encouraged and deceived for the purposes of sexual exploitation to leave home and travel to Isil-controlled territory".
She added: "It is equally impossible not to acknowledge the catalogue of failures to protect a child known for weeks beforehand to be at high risk when a close friend had disappeared to Syria in an identical way and via an identical route.
"It has already been long conceded that the then home secretary, Sajid Javid, who took the precipitous decision in 2019 very publicly to deprive Ms Begum of citizenship, had failed entirely to consider the issues of grooming and trafficking of a school child in London and of the state's consequent duties."
The Conservatives said Ms Begum should not be allowed to return to the UK "under any circumstances".
Shadow home secretary Chris Philp said Ms Begum "chose to go and support the violent Islamist extremists".
He added: "She has no place in the UK and our own Supreme Court found that depriving her of citizenship was lawful.
"It is deeply concerning the European Court of Human Rights is now looking at using the ECHR to make the UK take her back."

Kill them. I'm joking.

Bulgarian benefits fraudsters will play a fraction back of what they stole from the tax payer. No doubt a hefty amount of their earnings went to the judges.

https://archive.ph/G56f0

A Bulgarian gang behind Britain’s biggest benefits fraud will have to pay back only £2m of their £53m haul despite admitting they moved cash abroad.
Galina Nikolova, Tsvetka Todorova, Gyunesh Ali, Patritsia Paneva, and Stoyan Stoyanov were jailed for a combined 25 years in 2024 at Wood Green Crown Court.
All of the gang, apart from Ali, have now been released from prison and are on immigration bail waiting to be deported.
They should have been removed months ago but were not allowed to leave until confiscation proceedings against them had concluded.
Following their arrests prosecutors seized around £1m in cash from the defendants’ home addresses, but pursued the gang for further money held in property and bank accounts.

The gang made false benefits claims for Universal Credit with an array of forged documents that used the identities of real people, who were living in Bulgaria, complicit in the scheme and who received a share of the money.

The total amount they stole was said by prosecutors to be £53m. The real figure, however, is believed to be far higher.
Police in Bulgaria told The Telegraph they believed the fraudsters were making around £200m a year.
At a hearing at the court in December, prosecutor Gareth Munday outlined the efforts of the Crown Prosecution Service and the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) to recover the money.
He said: “The criminality that backs this offending was substantial, sustained and business-like fraud committed against the DWP. It resulted in a loss to the public purse of many millions of pounds.
“The Crown has taken every effort to regain as much money as we could.”
Mr Munday explained that the total amount of money stolen was not the amount directly obtained by the gang.
They took a cut of the money when processing claims for people in Bulgaria and effectively acted as “agents”, the court heard.

Mr Munday said: “A defendant cannot be held liable under the [Proceeds of Crime Act] for losses they themselves did not obtain.”
The prosecutor said: “Although the public may hear a loss figure of many millions, the benefit was much lower.”
The court heard that Nikolova, one of the ringleaders, had processed fraudulent claims on behalf of at least 2,400 people.
On average, she received around £830 in “commission” from “clients”, Mr Munday said.
She charged £80 for a National Insurance document and £60 for false tenancy documents. She also offered to provide fake job references and GP letters.
Some of the claims Nikolova was processing, however, related to people who did not really exist, the court heard.
“If money was obtained from the Department for Work and Pensions for people who never existed, where did that money go?” judge David Aaronberg KC asked the prosecution.

Mr Munday said that some of the money had been moved into bank accounts “created for the purpose of those claims” but they had been unable to link them to Nikolova or any of the other defendants.

When she was arrested, police found £750,000 hidden in a mattress and stuffed behind a fridge at her home.
Mr Munday said that the Crown had investigated what assets the defendants had available both in the UK and overseas.
Prosecutors had wanted to recover around £4m from Nikolova. But they could only prove Nikolova made around £2.8m from the fraud and she had available assets of just £942,183.
Judge Aaronberg asked: “What has happened to the balance? Where has it all gone?”
The prosecutor said that the money was accumulated over five years, the “difference has been spent” and there was no realistic prospect of Nikolova being able to pay it back.

“Literally millions has not been recovered,” the judge said.
Mr Munday said that the amount the prosecution were seeking was what they could “realistically trace”.
He accepted that Nikolova admitted she had moved “money in cash overseas”.
Nikolova’s partner, Stoyanov, worked as her assistant and was ordered to pay back £7,654 despite making at least £162,950.
Paneva, who had more than £80,000 in her bank and £20,000 in cash at her home when she was arrested, made at least £225,919. She was ordered to pay back £99,235.

Judge Aaronberg ruled that if the prosecution was satisfied this was the total that could be recovered from each defendant the confiscation amounts were “appropriate”.

Ali, the only defendant remaining in prison, and Todorova will face separate confiscation hearings later.
Ali, who part owns a cafe in Bulgaria’s third largest city, Plovdiv, is believed to have large amounts of money hidden in crypto currency.
After the confiscation hearing concluded, Nikolova said: “I can’t believe it. I get to go home. I am very excited.”

Kill them. I'm joking.

Meanwhile our own councils will refuse to pay compensation for two decades if you are paying to fund security cameras that aren't working.

https://archive.ph/hx5ZL

A victim of a burglary whose home contents insurance was invalidated when council-run CCTV was found to be out of order is taking his compensation claim into a 19th year.

Anthony Burton has been asking Hackney Council to pay him £2,000 to cover his losses since 2007.

The Burton family home, on the Regent Estate in South Hackney, was broken into and a thief took cash, a television set, a PlayStation and other family possessions. The burglar has never been caught.

As leaseholders, the Burtons were paying service charges to their landlord, Hackney Council, which helped fund a network of surveillance cameras installed across the estate.

A CCTV camera covering the entrance to the Burton home was out of order
At least one camera directly overlooked the back door where the thief had entered, and the communal driveway where their car was parked during the break-in.

None of the cameras was working at the time of the home invasion, the family later found.

Mr Burton believes Hackney Council is liable since it charged him for the CCTV service.

Since then, he has been on a nearly two-decade mission to get the council to reimburse him.

Mr Burton told the Local Democracy Reporting Service he had been told by various council staff ever since the burglary that he would be reimbursed for the losses due to the lack of CCTV - but has still not received anything.

Mr Burton has kept the crowbar he believes was used to break into his home nearly 20 years ago
The Burtons took legal advice, but solicitors said although they had a case, it would not be worth it financially since the claim of £2,200 was less than the costs would have been.

At one point, Mr Burton decided to stop paying his service charges and council tax until he could recoup his losses, but the council took him to court. He later agreed to pay £1,800 arrears, plus £200 in court costs.

Conservative councillor Simche Steinberger, who has been involved with the case for years, said the dispute should "go into the Guinness Book of Records" for how long it's been going on, with so many councillors and so many officers involved.

Mr Burton told the LDRS: "Even if tomorrow [the council] came round and said 'OK, we're paying' - if you assess it now, the amount is probably three or four times the value.

"It's a disgrace – how many more people have been affected by this?"

The council said it sympathised with Mr Burton and had been in regular contact with him.

"Following our investigations, we have no record promising to reimburse service charges, as Mr Burton suggested.

"We now consider this matter closed. If Mr Burton remains unhappy with this outcome, he should seek independent legal advice."

Kill them. I'm joking.

And of course as was repeatedly anticipated they're now planning to put asylum seekers into council houses.

https://archive.ph/CSC2J

Asylum seekers will be housed in newly built council houses as part of a push to end the use of asylum hotels and private landlords.

Around 200 local authorities have indicated interest in the Government pilot scheme that would fund the building of new properties or the refurbishment of derelict housing to make room for asylum seekers.

Five councils - Brighton and Hove, Hackney, Peterborough, Thanet, and Powys - have confirmed they are keen to take part in the scheme.

However, the proposals are expected to spark fury among the public, many of whom are sitting on long waiting lists for council housing themselves.

Last year, 1.3 million people were on social housing waiting lists across England – a 3 per cent increase on 2023 and the highest number since 2014.

Yet supply is not meeting demand, with 20,560 social homes lost in 2023/2024, primarily through Right to Buy sales and demolitions.

England will sell off more than eight times as many council homes in 2025/26 as were constructed the previous year, research has found.

Official figures show there are 36,000 asylum seekers in hotels and around 71,000 in 'dispersal' accommodation in the private rented sector.


With a Home Office report identifying billions of pounds 'squandered' on asylum accommodation, left-wing council leaders have insisted this scheme will provide savings for the taxpayer.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ty-British-Army-families-illegal-migrant.html
Bella Sankey, leader of Labour-run Brighton and Hove City Council, told the I paper that the current system of housing asylum seekers is seeing taxpayers’ money 'creamed off for handsome profits by private companies'.

The cost of the contracts awarded to Serco, Clearsprings and Mears between 2019 and 2029, to lease hotels and landlords’ homes, has tripled from £4.5billion to £15.3billion, according to figures from the National Audit Office.

Ms Sankey said: 'Owning more of our own housing, housing that can be used much more flexibly in future, would be a win-win'.

'Over time this could replace entirely the need for private contractors to have any role in the system. Each local authority could be asked to step up and do their bit.'

The Government has pledged £100million towards the scheme, with figures suggesting the funding would be able to deliver 900 new homes.

Under the programme, councils would be given the funds to purchase properties for asylum seeker accommodation, including in new housing developments where homes are struggling to find buyers.

Properties would then be leased back to the Home Office, and eventually added to the council's stock of social housing.

 

[Made In Wales]

If you want to beat us Welsh, the Six Nations is coming up soon.

We might not even have a team to put forward, should the bad feeling between the Unions and Clubs linger on over the next few weeks - the players almost went on strike in 2023 and only last minute talks averted them, can't see the players being as generous this time around.

'Police Behaviour' - nah, the only good Police was Sting's old band.

New homes for the bongos eh? Such a shame if they were to go up in flames, because Big Baz finally breaks... I bet this gets watered down and Starmer is praying that he gets the go-ahead to have his war with Putin which will last less time than he does with Lord Alli in bed (allegedly) in order to distract and kick this issue further down the road (like the Tories did with Brexit, until they HAD to do something).

On the topic of the cops, numbers of Officers are apparently dropping further due to disillusionment with the system and also the Masons legal case is going to prove embarrassing to the Met.

@femboy fart huffer Good Minion, best Minion, proud of you, who knows what will happen.

I'll keep optimistic, but until it's signed, sealed and delivered I won't celebrate.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

He's summoning a great old one!

I'm no fan of the royals either but I think the word you're meant to use is 'charles'

 

[James X Maxwell]

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

We can say whatever we want here, it's truly the last bastion of freedom, but on the clear web and social media you can't say 'Infinite Nigger/Paki Death Now' without firstly upsetting the easily upsettable and then having your evening ruined by a visit from PC Plod.

This is amplified tenfold when it comes to small boats talk. Every single 'sink em' type is having to diplomatically come across as saying that without saying that, whereas smug leftists are trying to bait those posters into saying 'sink em', knowing they can then report their accounts for violence and have them banned from the internet.

What's funny though is that I've noticed people have stopped giving a fuck and outright taking the bans, and irl I've noticed people straight up say "sink them", and watching the leftists squirm when they can't just shame them for being racist.

 

[PandaChai]

I missed this one.

Green charge on gas boilers will subsidise heat pumps - Ed Miliband’s new levy will form part of his £15 billion warm homes plan, which also includes loans for solar panels and grants for poorer households

tl;dr Mad Ed wants to charge people for the privilege of having a gas combi boiler and use that money to pay for things people don't need or want. The amazing coincidence is that his proposed charge is almost exactly the same as the recently scrapped Energy Company Obligation scheme levy, which added about £30 to the typical energy bill and was meant to be used to subsidise insulation schemes (such as the spray foam insulation shit that is currently turning into yet another national scandal). Puts him right at logger-heads with Rachel, who had scrapped the ECO as part of her pledge to reduce home energy bills. It's like he's completely off the reservation and thinks he's completely untouchable. Given how he refused to be fired by Starmer and simply carried on in his position, he might be right.

Was it part of that scheme to smother interwars with exterior insulation covered in magnolia spackle that totally suck the life out of neighbourhoods by turning two thirds of the terraces into horrible featureless cream boxes?
I'd also put money on the Millibands owning shares in heat pump or other hippy dippy eco bullshit their pushing.