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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Listen, I like the sunshine as much as every Brit but I love having the rain to break up long stretches of it. It's why I genuinely feel like British weather might unironically be some of the best in the world at times to legitimately LIVE in, not just go on holiday for a few weeks and soak up the sunshine.

It's just pleasingly mild. No long horrible stretches of dry weather broken up with torrential downpours, I mean we still get floods and whatnot but they're fairly rare all things considered. It doesn't get too hot and it doesn't get too cold.
Sunshine is the natural enemy of the brit. May the rain bless us all.
 
But for most people it's not really an option to "play the market", like it's a game.
Damn right it isn't.
  • For first-time buyers, the price to income ratio in England is 10 – meaning that the average property value is 10 times the average annual net salary.
  • This rises to over 12 in the South East, South West and East of England, and is over 16 in London.
  • For the average first-time buyer, the monthly mortgage payment was 47% of net salary in 2004 and 2014. As of 2024, this has risen by 20 percentage points to 67%.
  • First-time buyers in England would have to save 50% of their discretionary income for nine years to save the necessary deposit. This rises to 13+ years for those looking to buy in the South East and London.
  • After setting aside rent and bills, first-time buyers in England are facing a deposit that is more than 400% of remaining income.
Especially who wasn't Gen-X.
It comes as figures show that:
  • On average households in England are now spending 33 per cent of their income on private rent, compared with home owners spending 17 per cent of their income on mortgage repayments. In many London boroughs average rents are over 50 per cent of household earnings.
  • The average deposit in England is 72 per cent of an individual’s gross salary, rising to 137 per cent in London and dropping to 56.7 per cent in the North West.
  • The number of homes bought and sold last year is a third lower than before 2008 as more people stay put and so reducing the opportunity for people to move up the ladder
Or didn't parents have parents with deep enough pockets to help out.
Last year, 52 per cent of UK first-time buyers had help from their parents to buy property, while the average recipient of financial help was given £55,572, according to the estate agency Savills in an analysis published this month. The size of these contributions are increasing, with mortgages so much more expensive than during the Covid years. Collectively, parents have handed their offspring £38.5 billion since 2021 — £16 billion more than in the previous four years.
Which in of itself might not be an option if things continue as they are.
The average first-time buyer deposit in the UK is around £61,000 but it varies widely depending on where you’re planning on buying a home.

Read more: UK house prices rise for third month as mortgage rates ease

It will come at no surprise that London tops the list, with prospective homeowners requiring over £100,000 just to put as a deposit. The North East is the most affordable, with a deposit of a bit over £26,000 being enough to secure a mortgage.

However, the average time it takes to save for a home deposit in England has climbed to around 10 years.

2005 Average house price: £171 000 (rounded up; £282,081.72 ) → 10 % deposit = £16 000
2005 Median yearly salary: £22,000 (38,786 adjusted for inflation)
2005 weekly rent average: £55 (£96.97 adjusted for inflation)

2024 Average House Price: £290 000 → 10 % deposit = £28 000
2024 Median yearly salary: £37,430
2024 weekly rent average: £252

The guy is correct in that prices are down to market perception. Everything relies on something else to determine valuation. Genuinely you could put the current problems with housing on immigration:
More people = more theoretical demand = higher prices.
Mortgage rates ease (can happen during economic downturn I.E. Covid lockdowns) = more incentive to buy house = more potential buyers = more demand = higher prices
High house prices = greater demand for rental property = higher rents
High house prices = higher minimum deposits
Higher prices = higher minimum deposits + higher rents = less money into savings = longer wait to start a mortgage & fewer active buyers (This should lead to lower prices, but it's cancelled out by the others which raise them)

The last time house prices were negatively affected was during the oil crash of 2018 and the Covid period, but no much during the latter as to see a bump in house purchases — Covid measures or because the population was growing close to a million a year still and so housing demand kept high.

To drive down prices, A combination of decreasing population + lower (or non-existent) immigration + construction of more houses (or excess houses on the market) ought to do the trick.

Currently we're not in a financially well off state as a country to where people just buying in for the first time can "play the market," since those same first time buyers will be sinking the next 30 years to paying it off (alongside the 5-10 years it took to save a deposit). Their first home is likely their forever home. I can only assume that those who capable of playing it already proffered from it when times were better, but I know it's not something you paint over the plurality of people selling their homes. Their chosen price is almost entirely out of their hands if they want to get the full value of their property, whilst also paying off all the associated people who insist they need to be in the process at all. This is actually a major part of why people will just not sell at all.
In the first three months of this year, spurred by the ending of the stamp duty holiday at the end of March, there was a spike in sales: an estimated 310,000 transactions were recorded in England and Wales (there was no holiday in the latter), up 54 per cent year on year.
Yet even this artificial, fiscally-doped high is still less than the quarterly average recorded in the decade leading up to the 2008-09 financial crisis, when 365,000 homes were transacted. In fact, the levels we saw at the start of the year were about in line with those in the early 1990s downturn — the deepest, most financially scarring market crash of modern times.
These days, about 267,000 homes sell every quarter, suggesting that today’s housing market infrastructure probably couldn’t cope with a sustained return to previously normal levels of activity.
There are other differences, too. Back in the 2000s, mortgaged movers made up a large proportion of these transactions. But their numbers collapsed following the financial crisis and, aside from a slight recovery post-pandemic, they have remained well below previous levels and those of first-time buyers.
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Why are they moving less? Well, fundamentally, there’s fewer of them: middle-aged mortgaged homeowners were, historically, the biggest group of movers. After more than a decade of younger buyers being priced out of the housing market, fewer of them are becoming middle-aged homeowners. Now we have a higher proportion of older property owners, who own their homes outright — and this group has always been much less likely to move.

The only hint of optimism for buyers is the potential slow down on price growth in the future. For decreases something will have to alter market perception drastically, which requires action, so if we see net emigration go up + number of available houses on the market then maybe we'll experience a decrease in rents and house prices.

farmer harmer
Dani Harmer?
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Therefore, if he can't have his way, he'll ensure nobody else can and don't forget who is he loyal to?
If this results in Mahmood somehow getting the PM spot and @Bog-standard Poster ends up being right about us getting a Muslim PM I'm never gonna live it down.
 
If this results in Mahmood somehow getting the PM spot and @Bog-standard Poster ends up being right about us getting a Muslim PM I'm never gonna live it down.
It would certainly be a turn-up for the books, but Ms. Mahmood is (I believe) on the Left of the Labour Party and is more of a Corbynite.

The current PLP would not vote for her, despite her being Muslim and female - Lisa Nandy is part-Asian and female and yet still lost out to the biggest girly of them all back in 2020.

Labour have never had a female leader and I doubt they want one any time soon.

If Starmer is replaced, it'll be Streeting who gets the nod.
 
Come to the north and experience eternal grey. Hot and grey or cool and grey.
No nice summer no awesome winter just grey, with occasional piss it down.
The north is wank.
Honestly the eternal grey is just a city thing, you get the same experience in Newcastle or Manchester or Glasgow or Birmingham or London as far as the weather is concerned. You dip out of the smog fuelled shitholes and venture into towns without any major industries and the weather is genuinely some of the best neutral weather in Europe.

I'll say this though, at least even though the UK can have cities that are smog filled shitholes, at least the weather is mild enough for them to be just 'alright'. Try living in Paris for a Summer and you'll get the same smog in unbearable heat to the point where you're straight up unable to breathe at times.
 
What's going on?
Can't say for certain, but if a guy has set fire to a house with a women and her children inside it then, apart from being a total scumbag thing to do, it's almost certainly a revenge killing:

'If I can't have you, nobody else can.'

[...] a 15-year-old girl [...] died in a house fire [...]
A 41-year-old man was arrested at the scene and remains in custody.
Witness Mohamed Labidi, 38, [...]
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(the selected area is where the house is, dark purple areas are ~60-80%)

Huh.

How many times does something need to happen for it to become a pattern?
 
Listen, I like the sunshine as much as every Brit but I love having the rain to break up long stretches of it. It's why I genuinely feel like British weather might unironically be some of the best in the world at times to legitimately LIVE in, not just go on holiday for a few weeks and soak up the sunshine.

It's just pleasingly mild. No long horrible stretches of dry weather broken up with torrential downpours, I mean we still get floods and whatnot but they're fairly rare all things considered. It doesn't get too hot and it doesn't get too cold.
This you?

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This would explain why no-one is nooticing or looking into why so many houses are spontaneously combusting or instantaneously disassembling.
I thought it was down to either women or nigger builders.

Actually, that reminds me of some houses built near me - how they ever got passed by the Building Inspector, I'll never know:

Specifically related to spontaneous combusting, have a look at 3:46 - that might be why.

 
I thought it was down to either women or nigger builders.

Actually, that reminds me of some houses built near me - how they ever got passed by the Building Inspector, I'll never know:

Specifically related to spontaneous combusting, have a look at 3:46 - that might be why.

I don't know fuck all about houses or development, but who came up with the idea to design all the new houses like this? So fucking ugly.
 
If you're in Liverpool and need a Greg's use the one on the trading estate after the m62 about a mile out from the town centre (turn at the McDonald's) the one in the town centre has crap seating availability (4 tables inside and 2 outside? seriously?)?1
I'm banned from both. (edit, the second for saying Liverpool did well to win the league for a team of asthmatics on corticosteroid inhalers)
 
Regarding vehicular homicide, maybe the license to murder enjoyed by illegal aliens in the USA has been extended to Islamocolonizers in the UK:
A bus driver who failed to brake and killed a 77-year-old woman has avoided jail…

Almena Amica was using a pedestrian crossing to cross the road in the centre of Manchester when the bus accelerated and collided into her.

A further 11 people – a mixture of pedestrians and passengers – escaped with minor injuries as the single decker bus smashed into a café in Piccadilly Gardens on October 16, 2023.

After Khalid Mahmood pleaded guilty to causing death by dangerous driving, he…
…received a two year suspended sentence and has been disqualified from driving for five years.
For killing someone.

Just don’t post anything Islamophobic online. That could get you 3 years in prison. Authorities might even try to extradite you from the USA.
 
If you're in Liverpool and need a Greg's use the one on the trading estate after the m62 about a mile out from the town centre (turn at the McDonald's) the one in the town centre has crap seating availability (4 tables inside and 2 outside? seriously?)?1
I'm banned from both. (edit, the second for saying Liverpool did well to win the league for a team of asthmatics on corticosteroid inhalers)
I take it as a badge of honour for the amount of American slop franchises and our own grass root business that I am banned from. Though only one of them was for being racist.

EDIT: make that 2, I got banned from a Mcdonalds for saying nigger
 
What's with the media silence around the woman who stabbed 18 people in Hamburg?

The news story isn't even on this site. Curious...
So from the Krauts I've been chatting with, it's probably not a women and there are photos kicking around of someone in a tracksuit being arrested.
 
Yeah it is, will find link
I would appreciate that. I checked A+N and Happenings and found nowt.
So from the Krauts I've been chatting with, it's probably not a women and there are photos kicking around of someone in a tracksuit being arrested.
It would be out of character for a true and honest wuman to go stabby.
 
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