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What are you opinions on GamerGate and Brianna Wu / John Flynt?

  • I am of no opinion towards either.

    Votes: 104 8.6%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, but think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 631 52.1%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, but still think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 112 9.2%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 37 3.1%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votes: 309 25.5%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, but still think that and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votes: 9 0.7%

  • Total voters
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I think that is pretty much the goal, though frankly whenever I see her use it - especially in response to someone insulting her or calling her out on her bullshit - I tend to imagine her being salty as fuck.
Most of the time she uses it against someone she's arguing with, it's because the other person is a sockpuppet that she made up to prove that she does indeed get harassed, and despite the harassment she can still stand up to ber haters and prove she's the better man. When she gets into an actual argument with a real person she usually makes a few weak protests to what they're saying about her, then she burns all her tweets and goes dead silent until they leave, and she continues her usual bullshit. She likes to put on like shes this cool, collected professional, but really she's just a delusional coward.
 
Most of the time she uses it against someone she's arguing with, it's because the other person is a sockpuppet that she made up to prove that she does indeed get harassed, and despite the harassment she can still stand up to ber haters and prove she's the better man. When she gets into an actual argument with a real person she usually makes a few weak protests to what they're saying about her, then she burns all her tweets and goes dead silent until they leave, and she continues her usual bullshit. She likes to put on like shes this cool, collected professional, but really she's just a delusional coward.
You're forgetting her other favorite tactic: screaming "HARASSMENT! MISOGYNY!" as soon as someone says something she can't refute (and didn't burn fast enough) as a signal for her hit squad to go to work.
 
So John, isn't Natalie and up-and-coming woman in the world of tech feminism since she's under your direct tutelage? How come you've never done any writeups about her? Or are her work and contributions less meaningful to you than sticking a cock onto Samus Aran?

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You're forgetting her other favorite tactic: screaming "HARASSMENT! MISOGYNY!" as soon as someone says something she can't refute (and didn't burn fast enough) as a signal for her hit squad to go to work.

QUIT MANSPLAINING! QUIT MANSPLAINING! HELP HELP!
 
You know, considering how hard she's been 'tarding about on Twitter of late, I decided to check her Kickstarter page just to be sure there hasn't been any updates. Nope, game is still tentatively scheduled for an October release.

You got 11 days (8 business) left, Brianna. Better shut the fuck up and get to work.
 
You know, considering how hard she's been 'tarding about on Twitter of late, I decided to check her Kickstarter page just to be sure there hasn't been any updates. Nope, game is still tentatively scheduled for an October release.

You got 11 days (8 business) left, Brianna. Better shut the fuck up and get to work.
Personally I'm looking forward to what (if any) excuse she manufactures for why the game hasn't already shipped. Assuming she bothers to acknowledge it, it's probably gonna be a doozy.
 
Personally I'm looking forward to what (if any) excuse she manufactures for why the game hasn't already shipped. Assuming she bothers to acknowledge it, it's probably gonna be a doozy.
Of the hundreds of tweets she's made over the last month and a half, I think Brianna has only mentioned Revolution 60 maybe four or five times. You'd think a game developer would put all their energy into selling their game rather than themselves in these critical prelaunch months but what do I know?

In the most recent mentions, she implied that the thing is pretty much ready and all she needs to do is press the launch button on Steam. I really want to see her find a way to blame Steam for her game not coming out in October just for the potential shitstorm such a claim would unleash.

EDIT: Ah, I almost forgot! Brianna claimed during her Greenlight meltdown that she didn't make Rev60 for Steam's userbase! Maybe that's why she feels she doesn't need to worry about trying to hype her game's eternally upcoming release.
 
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There's a very good reason R60 hasn't shipped. Natalie died because Brianna was too busy Tweeting to feed her.
I heard she was scratching on their front door when she froze to death in a solid puddle of her own pee in the harsh Massachusetts October. It was this event that sent wu to ghc unprepared to give a factual presentation.

Does anyone else thing it's funny that wu gets away with lying because she knows a bunch of nobodies in media and tech support... and then gets served hard as soon as she starts stepping to the practically worthless tech media industry?
 
So John, isn't Natalie and up-and-coming woman in the world of tech feminism since she's under your direct tutelage? How come you've never done any writeups about her? Or are her work and contributions less meaningful to you than sticking a cock onto Samus Aran?

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1) The conference ended five days ago, Wu is milking it like it is the last cow on earth.

2) I just checked the other speakers on GHC, how did Wu manage to get in there? Just look at this lineup (also note where they put Wu in this list). I suddenly have the hope, that the only reason why Wu is invited to conferences any more, is because she is some sort of in-joke and a constant source of hilarity for the other speakers.

"Hey," says the CEO of Youtube to the Chief Technology Officer of the United States of America. "is this crazy-ass transgendered person around, who thinks she can play with the big girls?"
"Oh yes!" is the answer "And this time we replaced her amphetamines with sugar pills. No change though, right now she is snarling at the catering while stuffing her purse with shrimps."
 
Out of curiosity, did anyone else notice her Cube interview was set to private after a shitstorm of negative ratings and comments? Wu, oblivious, did not burn the RT.
 
Checked the Tweetsave archive, deadline is approaching for R60 fast, Wu doesn't seem too worried, having mentioned it not at all since last asked about it.

Bet it's already done and Wu is just sitting on it because being lazy is easy.
 
Contrast him in the prequel trilogy to how he's portrayed in the CG animated series, and the result is actually surprisingly solid.

i liked how Tartakowsky portrayed him in the animated shorts

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Who gave you this award? So confused....

I thought you CAUSED drama on the internets.

I will take that trophy for you, thank you
 
Of the hundreds of tweets she's made over the last month and a half, I think Brianna has only mentioned Revolution 60 maybe four or five times. You'd think a game developer would put all their energy into selling their game rather than themselves in these critical prelaunch months but what do I know?

We're talking about John here. He's severely mentally ill.

As such, after spending four years and hundreds of thousands of dollars on his laughably bad "game", John and Frank decided to go with a PR campaign on Rev60's release date (July 22, 2014) that consisted of writing an opinion piece entitled "No skin thick enough: The daily harassment of women in the game industry" that used the word "niggers" in its very first sentence, and went on to spin the claims of countless rape and death threats we're so used to hearing John lie about.

They went with conventional press releases on July 24 then again on September 30, adding a claim that a PC release was coming soon (which, of course, it never did). The last update for Rev60 (ever) was two weeks prior on September 15. John "professionally" whines about "three weeks of #gamergate nonsense" in the release notes.

None of this made for an uptick in revenue until John "miraculously" got "death and rape threats" and called his local PD (and the media). That, with a huge increase in Twitter attention ("thanks", Wesley), led to a bump in revenue that only lasted a couple weeks.

Out of curiosity, did anyone else notice her Cube interview was set to private after a shitstorm of negative ratings and comments? Wu, oblivious, did not burn the RT.

Yes, they nuked the first upload, but they uploaded it again. Same result - mostly downvotes, barrage of snarky comments.
 
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Who gave you this award? So confused....

I thought you CAUSED drama on the internets.
Gives herself trophy for not participating in the GHC argument
So John, isn't Natalie and up-and-coming woman in the world of tech feminism since she's under your direct tutelage? How come you've never done any writeups about her? Or are her work and contributions less meaningful to you than sticking a cock onto Samus Aran?

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Proceeds to participate in the GHC argument but without tweeting at people.

Also I can't un-see the right beats headphone as a pacifier now…
 
It's actually kind of incredible how easy it'd be for Brianna to ignore these so called misogynist gamergaters and work on her game...
Step 1: Turn off phone.
Step 2: Disable router. Can't let yourself be tempted!
Step 3: Be a game developer.

Ah.. I'm seeing where the issue is, now. She's not actually a real game dev. No wonder R60 has been delayed like this!
 
Ok here's a transcript of her talk at the cube:
from Houston Texas extracting the signal
from the tonys it's the QGrace Hopper celebration of women in
computing your host Jeff brick everybody Jeffrey huard the Grace Hopper
celebration of women in computing the best name of any tech convention we go
to and probably one of the highest energy tech event as we go to the
seventy that we're gonna cover in 2015really excited to be joining our next
guest her first gaming center it gets really found on the show so far yet
reenter will head of development for giant space cat ran a welcome thank you
for having me I'm super pumped to be absolutely so games are such a big part
of technology such a big part of the growth of technology and development
and you were right in the middle of it we are you know we've seen this
explosion in women gamers and last few years so yeah when I was growing up in
1989 women were only three percent of the gaming audience in 2008 women were
only 17% of gaming audience today the average gamer is a 35 year old woman so
we're actually women are fifty-two percent of gamers now in 2015 scerzusky
huge explosion in one the most exciting things are being here grace hopper is
all the women that are so pumped about working in games they would change the
world to make entirely new new set of games for everyone so let's
talk a little bit about the way that that’s but that's changed is back in the
early days of games right as all of you know the game just so boy centric or so
more eccentric and how do we how do we have the girls have something to
participate on Christmas morning when you brought on the Atari right there was
no cartridge for Billy but not enforce easy to stay in the game so the games
changed or have just women got more
involved in the games are what's really changed to get that demographic what's
frustrating is it's barely change know you brought up the Nintendo
Entertainment System so when I grew up in 1985 my parents brought home my
Nintendo and he was just super Mario brothers rice and Super Mario sisters so
in 1987 they have supermarkets in which had princess Peach's so exciting second
finally Plains woman but down twenty years until poor Mario game with let you
play as a woman again
so you know the the truth is our industries really
feeling like giving women turned around a bit in recent years ago
we see games like to murder you know they’ve radically change to raid early
Monday she is she's this really really well fleshed out personally relate to
changing with you the truth is the game industry doesn't really understand just
how many women were lined up asking ourselves represented in games in which
it is fascinating it's a big underserved market in its in like before there was a
temp they couldn't get it right is that they can't get it right or you just
aren't enough people trying to develop games you know for women or do they even?
need to be that different what makes agama popular for a woman that maybe he
forgot but what is the guy's games missing that a woman would rather have
you say you're not really super gamers you can look it came from the outside
and you recognize that women are really represented the best thing and you know
it because multifactorial you know sometimes it's just giving women kind of
a place to start to really develop that lot of games you know when he
turned ok man you know I grew up with like this six-button control but today
those 6 button controllers turned into a fifteen button controller with dual joy

sticks so you're really asking someone to rate really understand a very
complicated device just to play again when I first came out gave women gamers a ground floor and
started and she will learn how to be gamers so yea what here is you know women typically like
the same kind of games mending now you know they're men like
story-based romance adventures in their women that like shooting very generally
speaking there are differences in where psychological motivations in the truth
is we're just not having these games mean I think a really big problem this
depress you know the games France I did talk at GHC today and you will cover
the complete lack of women at several major gaming institutions so you have
men that are basically deciding what games have worked and what games get me
and we don't have women in the equation is not really a surprise why the games
kind of stuck course and then and then you had only said holding with iPhones
in these things there's not there's not a fifteen button to joystick controller
for these are just a form factor and into kind of the duration of the
games right it's a smiling I don't I don’t get like well right now I'm bored
he did it now I'm not bored so I mean how has the mobile movement and the
games and mobile changed the bigger game place to start it’s a challenge is to use my iPhone just think rightly this is a
controller that every human on the planet you know if we have here and I got to say
understands right I think they're out there that women are only interested in
candy crush your women are only interested in liked having you know I
would ask anyone out there this kind of saying a window like hardcore games to
ask themselves what is the highest budget game we've ever made aimed at women in the truth is she can't
really think of a high-budget game Call of Duty so you know we have a long way
to go at making gains for women and let I’m excited about our company is really
going feet first into a IR and PR India we’re gonna be at the very forefront of
the market developing really cutting-edge holla death level games for you
this augmented reality and virtual reality experience that's gonna be crazy
right that I'll try to get can I am I tried a little bit actually a very
interesting application with the company that does asset management and you where
the oculus rift and as you walk around the inventory yard actually a power
company and you look at a transformer it tells you that transformer has an issue
then you can pull up the data you know you need to swap it out man it's a
really interesting kind of Internet of Things application tied to visually
looking at seven stories I haven't had really done it on the game is walking
around did you feel nauseous because I make about a million dollars he felt no
not yet could you not used to arrive need to
cycling you put glasses so what we have is interface problem right see how to do dinner industry who are
really eager to make games that are running so what we found scientifically
is if you can design games where the characters sitting still rather than
moving around the luck because what happens is your tires are telling you
that you're moving around but your inner ear is telling you that you're standing
still and that's what makes you feel nauseous so this is a problem that we
can solve the shop to think about the way we're approaching right so beyond
beyond the kind of the sexiness of the women in the game would ever talk about
some of the characteristics of the game between the storytelling component the
competition components you know kind of the psychology component to keep give
people just enough you know the the rewards just enough on a random basis of

the key plan what elements of those are you really focused on and are some of
those more important for male gamers female game there's such an incite full
function so they're basically 60 gal academic care for their six different
accents that we've kind of low payments that are better psychological motivation
for people play games so your call of duty player what is going to
psychologically motivated to play games going to be like mastering a very
complex system with just one acting and then the other acts II is competition
dominating your friends for basic things typically speaking I'm not saying no
women like this but very generally speaking women ranked much higher on
enjoying American that's a nation means story and needs feeling like
you're part of the world so I can final am stay there a lot of women that
really love time appears to cause this beautiful world feel like you're part of
another thing that really gives women psychological motivations feeling each
and see with them as story the ability to change the world around them the
ability to make choices so if you look at it women returned to really really
like this two things which is why you know I think the killer outfit no one's
really developed jack is like a romance in the light in this is the technology
that were developing I'm so excited about this but the API's and frameworks
it we're investing tons of money figure out like right now I’m looking you in
the eye and that tells you things like human level about what I'm feeling
emotional voices a green dot television things of my voice is soft that tells
you things so we're gonna be developing and changes the story based on that is
really exciting this is the holiday as you get so much worse power right just a
little bit of texture talk about cloud data some of the big those big trends
how those are impacting the way to developing games today and what is going
on feature sure I think you know one of the
things this very difficult is the consumer costs area right so for you not
to get nauseous issued doing it I have to draw 60 frames a second in this side
and 60 frames per second in this size that’s not a trivial is so you know we
we filmed it cloud computing solutions are helpful for calculating right now
which is something very expensive is engineering is all about trade-offs and
choices so what we're concentrating on at our studio isn't running during
gameplay is not killing things just not shooting robots we're spending all their
development costs on conversation when people and really concentrating on that experience because
you can't do everything right choices and there's a lot of nuanced right now
there's a lot of serious horsepower that’s required to drive the new ones absolutely that that that you see there
it's just a really interesting question they’ve done studies so our industry
channels to realism and love really complex data crashes and love really
complex characters interesting thing that’s not what the consumer light so if
you're in video is consumers and particularly women respond much better
to lower probably killed kind of cartoonish think Sailor Moon kind of
environment so the irony is if you can get away from this idea that games need
to beat Call of Duty it’s less expensive to develop and it's
warmer see yam in regular movies right mean huge action movies it there's no
story if there's no plot line of it doesn’t hold together just exploding I
can watch out on Myth busters up so where does it go next as you get into this Dry
you get into this immersive experience has become less of a game or an
experienced and we're going to go places and see things and do things will reveal think the if you are I think the
majority of the money there is not convene the game industry my friends are
working on real estate solutions for Aare you check out our plan example it's
easy to imagine that working with something like Google glass or howl and
it's going to be part of how we interface with computers in the future I
am waiting for Apple and Microsoft figure out how you do you know Olsten
how you do the file browser and Dothan’s a very interesting computer
problem I think the problem we've really got to carry out its interface oculus
which is over there there to download this year connected blew me away so they figured
out the controller which is a haptic gloves so you put it on in their
controller will represent your hands in front of me so five movies fingers I see
the links bringing in real life and Icon pick up virtual blocks and moved
them and put them around I think whereat goes from here is we've got to figure
out the Interfax that's really the bigproblemyeah we have touch screens for years
that was until Apple figured out pinch to zoom in multi touch base just
turns the interface it really took off so I think if you are a print designer
interface designer we need our best and brightest being done with this problem
let me shift gears a little bit and hat how can we use gaming and the
draw the connection that the pool right our kids are on them all the time to
drive other types of behaviors for instance you know the whole theme here
is getting girls involved in computerscienceearlier what's the game that you can
write that they don't know it but they’re actually getting exposed to and
starting to learn to love the problem-solving that feels like a game but it's
actually introduced them the computer science honest you know I was telling you before
we started that game and how terrible that’s been the share your listeners
don't know what the target of hate to miss you 2014 so when I spend a lot of
time thinking about is the internet like your txt read each other on Twitter easy
to do and it's an automatic and imaging has been oversubscribed may certainly
aggressive towards each other right so we’re asking ourselves is how can we
develop games empathy is a building that you know like
so many of the games they reward you for shooting and killing how to rebuild a
game but Pullen but also for relating to people in a positive way so that is why
we're developing the frameworks if weans do I think it's telling that when
Captain Jane way on star track when she was the holodeck and killed more poor
she goes in talks to Leonardo Deviance in interacts with them and learn things
about herself so you need I think I food makes this very natural because we're
touching something this is a human interaction that makes sense to me the
next frontier is emotional interactions so to interact with games in a way that
makes sense to look at them to talk totem to have your boys reflect what
you're feeling and how those systems give me feedback so what point is it no
longer game never game me and it just becomes an immersive experience in
whatever you're choosing I don't know I don’t think it matters so the other just
fascinating thing about game again I’m not a big game looking at it from the
outside is spectating and gaming as spectator sport and these stadiums that
are filled with tens of thousands of people are watching other people play
games at all about you know what are your thoughts exactly as you know there
is a game called petal ok $20 game we basically shoot the ball and you watch
it bounced around you try to beat the other player this is $20 casual game how
to make in this game and perverted it into a blood sport because that's how
much of that we have plain I three or four thousand hours and people in the
last five years when you're watching so when do anything at a high-level skills
whether that’s hit a baseball you know playing a fighting game play pen it's
exciting it’s a spectator sport like I think
humans just enjoy watching people do things well at a high level through this
the reasons I think I’ve never really been able to get into
sports is because you with respect women can’t play women can't play baseball you know the
thing that makes scheme so beautiful it’s just a place where women can get in
there complete just like really brings us all
together people like golf right now you can watch golf and if you've got the
money and the time you can actually go play the same absolute pros played we
can't do that in football you can get beat up on Facebook so let's look under
the negative side of things that don’t get it and you said you spend lots and
lots of hours on this game what do you see the kids are way too
much time on this game you know is it visit ok is there is their benefits is it
is it just because we've become so kind of wealthy as a society that we can
afford the time we're just purely a time substitution for what we used to do with
watching TV or doing some of these other things are not appear you know and I
also wonder how I would handle having child that was detected video games as
you know what's hurt funny to me is all the time I spent as a child like playing
Final Fantasy Tactics instead of going to class given my profession these days
I was not what I think it's really hard you know I think that I think it can be
a waste of time you know I would love to sit here today
I'm telling you that the science shows that point games has no effect on
children but it doesn't show that happens scientifically as if your
children playing a lot of online games scientifically is it slows their
development meaning there have a harder time relating to people thinking about
them talking to them and stoutly it’s also gonna start their social skills
that doesn't mean we don't develop them later but it does have this negative
consequences I think that's something I would encourage parents to think about
the record you got the device whether they’re playing games are on tap on
Instagram they're listening to music or watching YouTube videos all on the same
device and in fact homework in sports teams schedules and this and that
right down the road five years from now we're going to be
talking about some gaming think it's really interesting you look
historically at any kind computing technology the mainframe era of
technology grace hopper said basically you know
that lasts about twenty years the PC Has lasted about 20 years and you know we're
about to cross the line into eight years of this I don't think we're gonna be
touched you tapping on last forever so my eyes work towards the future I think
was gonna happen slowly is I think he’ll are there going to be an interstate
rules stop to us getting to neural interface which is you know we're doing
A lot of advanced things on that so I think

what's gonna happen is oculus is going to come out Microsoft hollow lives gonna
come out its segment the market someone it’s not contaminated with games and
programs in flat screen for a long term but I think you're going to see people
continue to pull out of the real world that it spent more time in BR name and I
think that's kind of scary but you know there’s no stopping yeah yeah his wife
and I did you can just go straight into the seawell thank you very much ran for
stopping by our first gaming representative year the conference that
great to see you again I'm Jeffrey quit the Grace Hopper celebration of women in
computing 2015 and Houston Texas will be back on the next segment of the
shore break
So she says NES has a 6 button controller and that mainframes lasted 20 years. And PCs lasted 20 years.... and they just now finished.

1949 - Grace Hopper works on 1st UNIVAC mainframe as a mathematician.
1951 - UNIVAC first commercial mainframe is released
1959 - Grace Hopper releases COBOL programming language. It is still in use on all major platforms.
1965 - IBM 360 Promises to revitalize and revolutionize the computing world. Major marketing, major innovation, much software running the world today was written on one of these machines and IBM has provided a migration path and IBM still sells computers that can run most of the software written for these.
1974 - Altair personal computer is released to market. Assembly code written for this machine will still run on your PC (and even some macs!). Some programs of this era would still run in a windows command prompt until Windows went 64-bit.
1981 - IBM PC is released
1986 - Admiral Professor Grace Hopper PhD retires from the Navy for the final time
1986 - Adm(ret) Dr. Prof. Grace Hopper PhD becomes a consultant and works on (mini)mainframes for DEC
1992 - Grace Hopper dies. Virtually the only people aware of her existence are in CS and Mathematics where she was already a respected and celebrated figure.
2000 - 50% of US households have a PC
2002 - Sidekick is released sadly these shitty J2ME programs will probably run on every device you own even today :(
2007 - iPhone 1 is released if you still own one you're a bad Apple customer and very uncool.
2010 - The last time I worked with a mainframe professionally. It is shitty.
2011 - Women's studies departments discover Grace Hopper and Ada Lovelace.
2012 - 50% of americans have a smartphone.
2015 - Smartphones become preferred technology to combat man spreading on subways


No matter which way you slice it nothing lasts 20 years or about 20 years I really have no idea how she came up with that figure. It's also particularly lulz that the statement also means she's not really even clear on who Grace Hopper is.
 
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So she says NES has a 6 button controller and that mainframes lasted 20 years. And PCs lasted 20 years.... and they just now finished.

The main part that's fishy is a completely useless idiot like Wu, who has accomplished nothing at all, having the balls to pretend to be worthy of kissing Grace Hopper's boots.
 
The main part that's fishy is a completely useless idiot like Wu, who has accomplished nothing at all, having the balls to pretend to be worthy of kissing Grace Hopper's boots.
You know I never met her but I'm CS and Navy and I've read a lot about her and her quotes. I think she would be absolutely baffled by people like Wu, then again I think that people like wu would have a hard time explaining a woman like Hopper, without a doubt she carried her own all through very male places, engineering, and a navy that was undeniably very sexist during the years she was in (and they successfully begged her to come out of retirement). The military power she had, her unfailingly positive character, and her nonstop run of great ideas.

She really is a cool role model and about a million miles distant from shitheads like wu or zoe or any of those guys. According to sarkeesian someone like Hopper couldn't even exist. Lol I wonder how many death threats Adm. Hopper got?
 
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