Articles & Happening Meta Discussion

Articles & Happenings is the third attempt at a news board on the Kiwi Farms. It is a cursed place. Every moderator who has been assigned here has resigned within a year. During 2016, the political crossfire was so bad it spread to different boards and culminated in me banning American news discussion entirely for several months. It has been deleted in its entirety twice. There is no actual discussion here, it's people posting garbage. It leans much further right than the rest of the site and doesn't particularly conduct discussion because dissenting opinions are dogpiled by a thousand memelords posting shit they read on /pol/ without any critical analysis.

The only rules that can be enforced are empirical ones with boolean violation answers. New threads must cite a real source directly and must use the headline of the article as a thread title without any editorializing. Articles must be archived in some way and must link to the original article. Replies that are one word or a reaction images are automatic one-month bans from the board.

I'm creating this now because it seems like this place is here to stay and is one of the largest areas of the entire site. I might as well throw in bare minimum effort to improve it. I don't even try to find mods for here because they will quit, without exception. I've added new prefixes ("Business" and "Crime") just now.

Discuss.


New threads should be made like this.

 

[Strange Looking Dog]

Board is bad, flame wars are fun though.

Clearly board can't be that bad if you are enjoying yourself. What makes it bad anyway? From the way you've been acting it seems as though you just don't like other peoples takes —which is a rather petty reason I must say— and obviously you find yourself quite free to add your own, if others' distress you so much.

I found her posts to be the only fun ones in that thread.

They do enhance the 'youtube comments section' charm of A&H I suppose

I like @Sheryl Nome, she makes me laugh. She reminds me of Dynastia :/

Dynastia tended to come off as carefree rather than agitated, and I also don't recall him engaging in quite so prolonged and embittered flamewars. I think what gave him charm is that he had some level of finesse. Anyone can start a bitter argument if they are willing to demean themselves enough.


I think the take away from all of this noise is simply that we should all be more willing to disengage when a spaz comes looking for a flamewar. No point arguing with someone who has no interest in discussion.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Maybe, but it makes for a great containment board and you do see a lot of interesting news articles all in one place.

The /pol/ tards and constant sperging over "muh Demographics is Destiny!" and "muh Jews" gets annoying at times, but it is a lot better than the alternative of not having a containment area on the site. I'd rather have the bulk of the /pol/ posting largely contained to a single board than have it shit up the entire forum all over.

The fall of Tumblr and how Twitter went from bad to exponentially worse is a prime example of why containment sites are a good thing.

Fun fact: All boards here are containment boards.

 

[Ineedahero]

Clearly board can't be that bad if you are enjoying yourself. What makes it bad anyway? From the way you've been acting it seems as though you just don't like other peoples takes —which is a rather petty reason I must say— and obviously you find yourself quite free to add your own if others' distress you so much.


They do enhance the 'youtube comments section' charm of A&H I suppose


Dynastia tended to come off as carefree rather than agitated, and I also don't recall him engaging in quite so prolonged and embittered flamewars. I think what gave him charm is that he had some level of finesse. Anyone can start a bitter argument if they are willing to demean themselves enough.


I think the take away from all of this noise is simply that we should all be more willing to disengage when a spaz comes looking for a flamewar. No point arguing with someone who has no interest in discussion.

She makes good points that I don't always agree with, usually in an amusingly caustic fashion that gets a big reaction. Also telling a&h not to feed trolls is like telling water not to be wet.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

Fun fact: All boards here are containment boards.

Kiwifarms is like the human body during the middle ages; each board is a different deadly illness that eats the host up to the point that they're 99% virus. we have many flavors of autism here

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

lol ok madposter

You know posting in all lowercase doesn't make you look less mad.

I'm genuinely confused by this thread, what's stopping lefties from posting here? I'm a damn dirty centrist since poltically speaking I'm all over the fucking place, but I never felt bothered by all the right-wing stuff I've seen posted on A&H.

I'd argue that people that currently identify as left are likely to put somewhat more value on consensus than centrists or right wing people.

 

[Unog]

I'd argue that people that currently identify as left are likely to put somewhat more value on consensus than centrists or right wing people.

Why is that?

 

[Nobunaga]

Kiwifarms is like the human body during the middle ages; each board is a different deadly illness that eats the host up to the point that they're 99% virus. we have many flavors of autism here

Yeah, but MY autism should be the only one allowed
No fun allowed on the website about circus freaks and their shitty lives

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Why is that?

Besides them being more likely to be women (which probably doesn't matter here since as HK-47 said this is a sausagefest) and the inherent populist/communalist underpinning to most leftwing ideology; I think most of the people legitimately attracted to left wing ideology value peace, consensus, and equity over the freedom to be an iconoclast. It's been the dominant ideology tinging education and the media for many decades now. So while there's kind of a performative iconoclasm among the communists and SJWs; really the safe and dare I say it conservative ideological choice is being moderate left. It's how the places that socialize you are run. It's how the media you consume leans. It's how the government runs. Only the most extreme left actually wants radical changes to anything. Most of them want things exactly as they are with a few reforms here and there. But despite that, at least online, that variety of leftist is becoming an internal pariah in the lefty community.

Where do pariahs post?

Places like this.

Of course due to that same mechanic these largely moderate lefties (not Ashy obviously) are running face first into people on the extreme right and extremist libertarians, who are also attracted to these places. But unlike those two groups, they're not iconoclasts full of righteous anger. So they quickly tire of it and leave the board. Or just get spooked right off.

So really the only kind of leftist you're going to tend to see here for any kind of length is @Ashy the Angel . People that DO want to topple the status quo, and feel damn good about it. The other kinds of lefty aren't really looking for a fight.

At least, that's how it seems to me. This is hardly a double blind study or anything.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Congrats on 67 pages of fags butthurt by A&H's "lack of decorum!"

Just don't come to the board faggots, free speech doesn't care about your reeeeeing.

 

[Shield Breaker]

Besides them being more likely to be women (which probably doesn't matter here since as HK-47 said this is a sausagefest) and the inherent populist/communalist underpinning to most leftwing ideology; I think most of the people legitimately attracted to left wing ideology value peace, consensus, and equity over the freedom to be an iconoclast. It's been the dominant ideology tinging education and the media for many decades now. So while there's kind of a performative iconoclasm among the communists and SJWs; really the safe and dare I say it conservative ideological choice is being moderate left. It's how the places that socialize you are run. It's how the media you consume leans. It's how the government runs. Only the most extreme left actually wants radical changes to anything. Most of them want things exactly as they are with a few reforms here and there. But despite that, at least online, that variety of leftist is becoming an internal pariah in the lefty community.

Where do pariahs post?

Places like this.

Of course due to that same mechanic these largely moderate lefties (not Ashy obviously) are running face first into people on the extreme right and extremist libertarians, who are also attracted to these places. But unlike those two groups, they're not iconoclasts full of righteous anger. So they quickly tire of it and leave the board. Or just get spooked right off.

So really the only kind of leftist you're going to tend to see here for any kind of length is @Ashy the Angel . People that DO want to topple the status quo, and feel damn good about it. The other kinds of lefty aren't really looking for a fight.

At least, that's how it seems to me. This is hardly a double blind study or anything.

Maybe in the old days, but any more the extremes seem to take over message boards and such. Even if A&H is full of guys who have less if a chance at romance than Chris, at least I can speak my mind without kowtowing to troons and people who think that Bernie Sanders is a centrist.

 

[X Prime]

What is going on right now on Something Awful is an extremely good lesson on why AnH should not be changed much, if at all.

 

[AnOminous]

What is going on right now on Something Awful is an extremely good lesson on why AnH should not be changed much, if at all.

It's why Null should do whatever the fuck he wants to it, whatever that is.

 

[X Prime]

Null is a lot better at not kowtowing to a vocal minority than Lowtax is, that's for sure.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

praise patriarchy!

 

[Stoneheart]

Congrats on 67 pages of fags butthurt by A&H's "lack of decorum!"

those stupid upvotes should be disabled from A&H. I might wanna know what other people think about my posts about whales and Cows, but who cares if people agree or disagree with you over politics?

spamming me with likes is not nice, stop that!

 

[L50LasPak]

I have a constructive suggestion.

New Rule: Name the fucking source website in the first line of your post. (Ex: "From: News Of The World") That way I can click on the stupid fucking thing, notice that its from a tabloid and not have to click on the archived link in order to figure that out.

As much as I enjoy getting pissed off at journos even I have limits.

 

[It's HK-47]

I have a constructive suggestion.

New Rule: Name the fucking source website in the first line of your post. (Ex: "From: News Of The World") That way I can click on the stupid fucking thing, notice that its from a tabloid and not have to click on the archived link in order to figure that out.

As much as I enjoy getting pissed off at journos even I have limits.

That's how it's supposed to be formatted, but people still haven't acclimated to the new system. It's supposed to go:

Original Link
Archive

Article

And then a separation with a break like "END OF ARTICLE" to let people know that you're about to barf out your opinion. Originally I was told that the barfed opinion should go in a post immediately following the original post, but I know for a Goddaamned fact that if we do that we'll get a massive flood of "double post" reports and that just seems annoying.

 

[Ineedahero]

That's how it's supposed to be formatted, but people still haven't acclimated to the new system. It's supposed to go:

Original Link
Archive

Article

And then a separation with a break like "END OF ARTICLE" to let people know that you're about to barf out your opinion. Originally I was told that the barfed opinion should go in a post immediately following the original post, but I know for a Goddaamned fact that if we do that we'll get a massive flood of "double post" reports and that just seems annoying.

This has probably been answered before elsewhere (or even here and I'm exceptional) but why can't we quote ops? That's where all the most important info is in a thread usually, and it would be neat if you could easily counter someone who hasn't read the op by dropping a quote and explaining it.

 

[Unog]

This has probably been answered before elsewhere (or even here and I'm exceptional) but why can't we quote ops? That's where all the most important info is in a thread usually, and it would be neat if you could easily counter someone who hasn't read the op by dropping a quote and explaining it.

You can quote them, it's just a pain in the ass. Quote another user, then replace the "member: xxxxx" number with their member number, and the post number with the number that shows up at the end of the url when you click the little gray "#1" at the top-right of their post. After that, put the part of the OP you want in the quote:

Zimmerman is represented by Larry Klayman, a high-profile legal crusader tied to conservative causes and the founder of Judicial Watch before splitting with the activist group.

Also, replace the username with the correct one, or replace it with "OP" or "Article" if you want:

Zimmerman is represented by Larry Klayman, a high-profile legal crusader tied to conservative causes and the founder of Judicial Watch before splitting with the activist group.

 

[The Last Stand]

Of course due to that same mechanic these largely moderate lefties (not Ashy obviously) are running face first into people on the extreme right and extremist libertarians,

What political ideology would I be considered by A&H standards?