Are we bad people? - Morality and the farms.

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All we do on this forum is laugh at various people from an internet critic who made the console wars his own "Vietnam" and transgender game dev trying to go into a political office (who also has little to no chance of winning) to SJW's and anti-SJW's. We're not really the sort of people that want to see a person dead and even though we have members that went from weening a person (Hirtes for example) to outright murder (Fuckyou, who we all pretty much left rest in piss messages), we more or less laugh at those people simply for being jackasses that are no better than the people they ween on.

On that same note, to quote @Somsnosa
You have freedom of thought and speech on anything, but claiming to be 'actually a good person' while being on freakin kiwifarms of all places is hypocritical.
I'm glad KF got some work into exposing disgusting abusive people, but we're clearly not here for that.
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Whether you are a good person or not IRL, you're on a forum where you're laughing at people who at best are innocuous and at worst are just going to be complete jackasses.

The worst we do is literally just talk shit about people, no different from social media and the like where people try to rip on others with "witty hottakes" and meme images.

Deadpool said:
We're no worse than people gossiping and mocking celebrities. We gossip, and talk shit about people. So does the entire fucking population of the world. Old church ladies (in my experience) are just as bad about this as we are. You can unclutch those pearls now.
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It was said before a few times that we are more or less like TMZ. While some guy on Twitter or Tumblr can complain on how we made mention of him, the worst he has on this site could simply be bad Tumblr art that any one can rip on. Unless you really proven yourself to be someone worthy of discussion, you're not gonna get much more gossip than just someone making a quick jab.

In terms of OP asking how God would look down on a person such as myself for being here, as a person who believe in @Jesus and God, God would just see me being like everyone else: a schlub whose no different from everyone else in being a sinner. As for allowing this, this is just a place where we talk shit and take jabs at some people or group such as Alt-Furries or MovieBob.
 
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You're nearly always going to be a bad guy in someone's perspective. While I think some people here can be over the top about stuff, so can the lolcows posted and talked about. I don't think being on this site makes you evil by default, or at least any worse than people who take part in documenting every little thing that happens in celebrity culture, or high school kids who spread rumors about the unpopular kid. It just depends on the sorts of things you say. There are some lolcows who are inoffensively harmless or people who I don't have any grief with, while there are some who are obnoxious and/or offensive who I have no qualms joining in discussions about them. Yeah, some people here could be considered bad, or evil, but I wouldn't say *everyone* here is like that.

I'm not religious but if God gave people free will and if he's all-seeing, he would have seen this coming.
 
I wouldn't say we're "bad" (Except for @FuckYou ). After observing some of the lolcows and Farmers that follow them, I've come to conclude that we generally don't go out of our way to harm or bring distress upon lolcows unless said cows are A) Total fucking assjockeys that lie and manipulate others while also probably being welfare parasites, or B) Actual sick lunatics that need to be brought down, I.e. Nick Bate. The more harmless ones that tend to be SJW artists, bad writers, social outcasts, etc. just seem to be criticized and often given advice that they more often than not, tend to reject and make themselves even bigger laughing stocks. So generally, it's not really our fault. Do we act as a catalyst for them going deeper down the rabbit hole? Yeah, sure, I guess we do. But if it wasn't us that caused them to do it, it would more than likely be someone or something else. So, yeah, I don't believe that we Farmers are bad people, though some can be more toxic than others.
 
I hate tards and how society always forces you to be nice to them. I hate how businesses are being pressured to hire tards in spite of how ineffectual they are and how they’d be much better off with a normal guy doing the job. I hate how telling a tard to fuck off in school can get you suspended.

I hate trannies because they’re freaks. I hate how the « woke » media pander to them. I hate how trannies spread their pestilence and retarded ideologies among the next generation. A shitload of people are going to wake up one day with their lives irreparably fucked and the hormone-blocker brigade will be the first culprit.

It is normal for tards and freaks to be ostracized. That’s the way it’s always been: you deviate from normalcy, you get laughed at. And on the farms, I am free to laugh at them.

I’m not saying everyone should throw sticks and stones at them. I’m just saying I don’t want to be nice to them. And on the farms, I don’t have to.

Fuck them.
 
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Maxliam said:
I'd say we're more chaotic evil.

God is so awesomely vicious with the horrors he unleashed on mankind. AIDS, Malaria, Smallpox, venomous snakes, Rosie O'Donnell, Schizophernia, gays, the Norwegians, me, etc.
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To be fair, he did hide AIDS pretty well.
How was God to expect anyone to rummage around inside a monkey's butt?
 
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To be fair, he did hide AIDS pretty well.
How was God to expect anyone to rummage around inside a monkey's butt?
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True but what kind of loving god gives us Rosie O'Donnell, who is like the fat retarded human form of AIDS?
 
Depends whether we're being fair with our criticism and disparagement or not. I have noticed a certain subsection of users like autism420 or whoever he is (who seems to have been banned from this site, thank God) who are... 4chanish? in their general behaviour and attitudes so theres that
 
I won't defend myself for being on this website. I do say I have personal limits I place on myself. I don't go out to find individuals like the ones I see here and harass them, I don't dox, I don't build dossiers of these people, and I don't tell anyone to kill themselves. If it makes me a bystander in all this, fine, but it's not like I could do anything to stop y'all if I tried. People like y'all will always exist to mock others. Mocking others is a form of humor and camaraderie with people of like minds.

I do have empathy for certain individuals whose actions, reactions, and lives are clearly influenced and hampered by their mental illnesses, but empathy only means understanding -- it does not automatically mean I condone what they say or do. I understand the utterly weird shit some autistic people do, it doesn't mean that it's still not weird or abnormal. What I've learned is that there are some people that simply can't, or choose not to, understand that there are ways to help yourself, or people that want to help you. Often it's simply a matter of when intervention could've taken place and if it did or didn't. The longer their behavior goes on unabated, the harder it is for them to change until they reach a point where the shit they've done seems to outweigh any benefit that could be had through rehabilitation or a serious adjustment to their behavior and personality.

Jesus forgives, but here on Earth we have higher standards.
 
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I won't defend myself for being on this website. I do say I have personal limits I place on myself. I don't go out to find individuals like the ones I see here and harass them, I don't dox, I don't build dossiers of these people, and I don't tell anyone to kill themselves. If it makes me a bystander in all this, fine, but it's not like I could do anything to stop y'all if I tried. People like y'all will always exist to mock others. Mocking others is a form of humor and camaraderie with people of like minds.

I do have empathy for certain individuals whose actions, reactions, and lives are clearly influenced and hampered by their mental illnesses, but empathy only means understanding -- it does not automatically mean I condone what they say or do. I understand the utterly weird shit some autistic people do, it doesn't mean that it's still not weird or abnormal. What I've learned is that there are some people that simply can't, or choose not to, understand that there are ways to help yourself, or people that want to help you. Often it's simply a matter of when intervention could've taken place and if it did or didn't. The longer their behavior goes on unabated, the harder it is for them to change until they reach a point where the shit they've done seems to outweigh any benefit that could be had through rehabilitation or a serious adjustment to their behavior and personality.

Jesus forgives, but here on Earth we have higher standards.
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Yes I don't see how you can view kiwis as some monolith who can be controlled with rules. If they aren't telling people to kill themselves here, they'll just go to someones account to tell them to kill themselves there. I wonder what majority of posters on here have some morality, and which are just sociopaths looking to kill some time. It probably would be impossible to actually test, since some still want to troll, and some will not want to drop the facade of being a morally upstanding person.
 
The way I see it, I feel like mocking them is justified if the cow is a legitimate fuckwad (e.g. Nick Bate, pedophiles, racists, people with the terrorist tag, etc...) but if they're not disturbing anyone and keeping to themselves (admittedly a rarity amongst cows from what I've seen), I don't think they should have a thread...

Or maybe I'm just being a stick in the mud, I don't know.
 
To be perfectly honest - no.
I am a hateful person, who has let their hate consume them for the past five years, letting it fester and manifest in racism, aggression, asocial activities, and cannot find happiness in the things I used to, no matter how hard I try, cannot maintain a positive mood or outlook longer than half an hour. I look to others to give me fulfillment, and those that cannot I mentally spit upon and shun. I have slowly begun to shift my hate for everyone and my self-loathing into positive uses, to better myself and improve the quality of life for my friends and family, but it still must be said that I am not pleasant to deal with in real life, if only for excessive self pity & lack of helpfulness rather than actual wrongdoings. I don't act on my anger, I know i'll do something I can't take back or that I will regret. Eventually, i'm sure it will change, as I spend a lot of time thinking introspectively, and I don't very much like what I see in myself. If I somehow reach old age, i'd rather be a kind & benign old grandfather rather than a hard ass screaming old man. In general - I think we are all bad people, with good thoughts and actions sprinkled around.
Who you are, and how you are as a person, is partially defined by your first thought about something - but a majority of your character and values are shown by your second thought about it.
So I will continue to strive to change myself for the better, to become a kinder person.
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Also I'm not going to judge the Farms on whether it's good or not, I don't care what people here are like as long as I can enjoy myself somewhat.
 
I enjoy laughing at what is put out by these people of their own dumb free will. I think Kiwifarms is a force for good sometimes. Zoe Quinn and some rat kings should have a light shown on them.

However, as appealing as the fallouts of doxxing are, that (often) crosses the line for me. I pity Terry A Davis. The blue spike medallion incident was completely cruel and shameful.

Ultimately, we are the same species. Reading about these extremes allows me to reflect on myself. Besides the fun of arm chair psychiatry I feel like I have learned some meaningful things.
 
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The userbase of the Farms consists of so many radically different ideologies, schools of thought, and reasons for us being here that it's not really possible to say we're good or evil as a group. Different Kiwis have different reasons behind their being here. Some people are here for educational reasons: are there patterns in lolcowdom? Can lolcows be reformed? Are there common threads between disparate lolcow archetypes? Others are here, ironically enough, as a way of improving themselves. They have their own problems - social awkwardness, psychological problems, etc - and they see the lolcows we cover, and they go: "Wow, I never want to be that." Still, others are here because at the end of the day, we're laughing at say, someone who claims to be a scholar and yet predominantly has, as a major aspect of their online persona, shoving 2-foot dildos up their ass (for example).

The point I'm getting at is this: Each and every Kiwi has their own and completely disparate moral and ethical code.

Our only unifying trait is that we're all here to gawk at people making spectacles of themselves in public. It's the oldest internet tradition.

That has no moral or ethical restriction.
 
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