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The only thing I liked about Shingeki no Kyojin was the animation. I couldn't get into the story at all. For me, I preferred Koutetsujou no Kabaneri even if I didn't like the face of the main character, his overall design was good. I also found that Koutetsujou no Kabaneri would be easy to covert into a Pathfinder game with some steampunk books.
 
Adult Swim knew exactly what they were doing with Inuyasha

 
I'm watching the 1st season of Darker than Black right now, and it's just not jiving with me. It's just a dry sit for me.

What would you all say is the best show of this season? I haven't been watching anything current. I'm going to be getting to Konosuba 2 and Little Witch later on, but are any of the other shows good? It seems like people are pretty hot on that Dragon Maid show, but I honestly can't the animation.
 
They sure did. Getting Keith David for the very first promo is surreal looking backhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=dV1bkC9wInEBeen thinking of actually finishing the anime some day for some sort of closure. I gave up sometime after the Band of 7 arc I think. I'll probably just skip to Final Act honestly
Might as well skip to Final Arc. Nothing else really happened because filler and all.
 
I am a little nervous about Atom: The Beginning. I don't want to sound like nitpicking, or bias, but I am worried it might ruin Astroboy.
 
I liked some anime as a kid (it was the 90s when there was a giant Japan craze in my part of the world), well three: Pokemon, Sailor Moon and Dragonball Z but but by the time I was a teenager, I could never get much into anime. I did watch some on Cartoon Network and the International Channel (doesn't exist anymore) like Slayers, Tenchi Muyo (the tv version, there's a direct to video version of the series Im told is awful), Inuyasha, stuff like that, which were ok. I'll even admit I still watch some of these on YouTube here and there when I'm bored.

But the problem with anime is the animation is always really bad, the art style usually is very ugly, and it's always immature and stupid. I've seen some decent exceptions, like some sci-fi anime in the 80s (not Akira, which I tried to watch, and it was awful)
 
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On the topic of InuYasha, I watched it for the entire month of July last year since my brother had collected some of the DVDs and I wanted to get it out of the way. I have to say that for the first... I think sixty+ episodes, I was actually getting into it and starting to see why it got popular. I actually did dig the moment in episode 38 where InuYasha, after climbing into her room, watched Kagome sleep and she rolled over and muttered "Sit", I thought it was a funny twist on the romantic cliché of "Character A watches Character B sleep". And in episode 48, even though I still wasn't caring for InuYasha and Kagome's relationship (and I still don't, I think InuYasha's more romantically attracted to potato chips than Kagome), the well scene at the end when they were "parting ways" was actually handled pretty good.

Then like all long-running shounen anime not called Yu Yu Hakusho, it started to suffer from fillers, characters not growing, and the plot (and the "romance") just going nowhere in general. I think the OPs and EDs started to not do it much for me by this point, only "Change the World" and "My Will" were the ones I liked the most. It's been a while since I last heard the songs, but "Change the World" is iconic for a reason, so whatever.

I still have of yet to watch the Final Act season, I'm not sure when I'll get around to it.

For me, I preferred Koutetsujou no Kabaneri even if I didn't like the face of the main character, his overall design was good. I also found that Koutetsujou no Kabaneri would be easy to covert into a Pathfinder game with some steampunk books.

Lol MAL got so mad at Kabaneri when it "stopped" being "cool" and the second half brought in that one pointless villain, but the concept's pretty cool and the art was gorgeous (once I got used to it, it threw me off the first time around) that I don't regret watching it. I love that Tasuku Hatanaka was cast as Ikoma, I thought he did a wonderful job. He's been a fantastic voice actor thus far, I'm still hoping he'll get cast into more big roles.

Tenchi Muyo (the tv version, there's a direct to video version of the series Im told is awful)

Who told you Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki is awful? They're probably talking about its third season, but the original Ryo-Ohki is good. Kind of a rough sit first time around, but I honestly prefer this universe when it comes to how Tenchi met Ryoko, it was a cool, creepy moment. Didn't get much of Washuu until the end of the first Ryo-Ohki, but she made up for it by being in the second one.
 
Who told you Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki is awful? They're probably talking about its third season, but the original Ryo-Ohki is good. Kind of a rough sit first time around, but I honestly prefer this universe when it comes to how Tenchi met Ryoko, it was a cool, creepy moment. Didn't get much of Washuu until the end of the first Ryo-Ohki, but she made up for it by being in the second one.

I got it from the "Anime Abandon" review, which said the original direct to video incarnation is the worst iteration (he says its the product of a crazy anime porn creator), and that the 90s tv series is far better, which is the one I'm familiar with. He does specify he enjoyed the first two seasons, though said they were massively flawed, and that it's third season is awful. According to Wikipedia, it has a fourth one, but he didn't review it. Also there's apparently a bunch of other series and films? Can you give me the lowdown?
 
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I got it from the "Anime Abandon" review, which said the original direct to video incarnation is the worst iteration (he says its the product of a crazy anime porn creator), and that the 90s tv series is far better, which is the one I'm familiar with.

...Also there's apparently a bunch of other series and films? Can you give me the lowdown?

Ah, alright. I was fine with Sage's review of it, but despite its flaws (that's kind of what happens with OVAs that are spread across a great number of years--also Ryo-Ohki had a change of directors mid-way), he's right that they're enjoyable. Of course, it also depends on your tastes. Universe was great fun, so since you started with that first, Ryo-Ohki is definitely going to feel a little weird, especially with its pacing (the dub's also slightly rougher--though there's not much change between the dubs anyway lol).

Yeah, the Tenchi Muyo franchise is pretty big (my friend and I call it the "Tenchi Black Hole"), and it changes continuities a few times depending on the series. So there's technically no wrong way to watch it (personally, I'm watching things in the released chronological order, which I'll list for you), you just have to remember to "start over" with the characters.

Hope this helps:

1. Tenchi Muyou! Ryo-Ohki - September 25, 1992 - March 25, 1993 (OVA)
2. Tenchi Muyou! The Night Before the Carnival - September 25, 1993 (OVA)
3. Tenchi Muyou! Mihoshi Special/ Galaxy Police - March 25, 1994 (OVA)
4. Tenchi Muyou! Ryo-Ohki 2 - September 25, 1994 - September 25, 1995 (OVA)
5. Tenchi Universe - April 2, 1995 - September 24, 1995 (TV, alternate universe)
6. Magical Girl Pretty Sammy - August 25, 1995 - August 24, 1997 (OVA, magical girl spin-off)
7. Tenchi Muyou! in Love - April 20, 1996 (Movie, for Tenchi Universe)
8. Magical Project S - October 4, 1996 - March 28, 1997 (TV, alternate universe to Magical Girl Pretty Sammy)
9. Tenchi in Tokyo - April 1, 1997 - September 23, 1997 (TV, alternate universe)
10. Tenchi the Movie 2: Daughter of Darkness - August 2, 1997 (Movie, for Ryo-Ohki apparently?)
11. Photon: The Idiot Adventures - November 21, 1997 - February 18, 1999 (OVA, supposedly in the Ryo-Ohki continuity)
12. Dual! Parallel Trouble Adventure - April 8, 1999 - July 1, 1999 (TV, spin-off in the continuity of Ryo-Ohki--apparently)
13. Tenchi Forever! - April 24, 1999 (Movie, sequel to Tenchi Muyou! in Love)
14. Tenchi Muyou! GXP - April 2, 2002 - September 25, 2002 (TV, Ryo-Ohki continuity)
15. Tenchi Muyou! Ryo-Ohki 3 - September 18, 2003 - March 16, 2005 (OVA)
16. Tenchi Muyou! Ryo-Ohki 3: Final Confrontations - September 14, 2005 (OVA)
17. Sasami Magical Girls Club - April 13th 2006 - July 13th, 2006 (TV, Magical Project S spin-off)
18. Sasami Magical Girls Club 2 - Oct. 5, 2006 - January 11, 2007 (TV)
19. Tenchi Muyo! War on Geminar - 2009-2010 (OVA, Ryo-Ohki continuity, related to Photon)
20. Ai Tenchi Muyou! - Oct. 6, 2014 - Dec. 24, 2014 (TV, possible alternate universe?)
21. Tenchi Muyou! Ryo-Ohki 4 - Nov 30, 2016 - Aug 30, 2017 (OVA)
 
Ah, alright. I was fine with Sage's review of it, but despite its flaws (that's kind of what happens with OVAs that are spread across a great number of years--also Ryo-Ohki had a change of directors mid-way), he's right that they're enjoyable. Of course, it also depends on your tastes. Universe was great fun, so since you started with that first, Ryo-Ohki is definitely going to feel a little weird, especially with its pacing (the dub's also slightly rougher--though there's not much change between the dubs anyway lol).

Interesting, according to him and comments on the video, apparently that version of the series turned to shit with the third one, and the creator behind it is some crazy guy who makes his own fan fiction of his characters and is a very bad writer. Any truth to that?

Yeah, the Tenchi Muyo franchise is pretty big (my friend and I call it the "Tenchi Black Hole"), and it changes continuities a few times depending on the series. So there's technically no wrong way to watch it (personally, I'm watching things in the released chronological order, which I'll list for you), you just have to remember to "start over" with the characters.

And I thought Star Trek was convoluted...

Thanks for the list. Which are good, which are bad? Which to watch, which to avoid?
 
Interesting, according to him and comments on the video, apparently that version of the series turned to shit with the third one, and the creator behind it is some crazy guy who makes his own fan fiction of his characters and is a very bad writer. Any truth to that?

Omg I haven't heard of this, that sounds hilarious. If that's 100% true, Ryo-Ohki 3 must be a spectacle to behold. I'll have to keep that in mind for when I get around to it. (But yeah, it seems a lot of fans say Ryo-Ohki 3 wasn't good, and not just because the dub had a change of voice actors.)

And I thought Star Trek was convoluted...

Thanks for the list. Which are good, which are bad? Which to watch, which to avoid?

Not a problem. As to your question, it's hard to say since it's all a matter of opinion, but outside of Ryo-Ohki and Universe, I don't know how many of them are must-sees. I also haven't seen all of them yet, but what I have seen (my friend and I are currently on Magical Project S, though we did watch Daughter of Darkness) I've liked. My current favorite though is the Pretty Sammy universe, since magical girl bias and all that lol. (Magical Project S and its spin-off sequels don't have a dub, though.)
 

Omg I haven't heard of this, that sounds hilarious. If that's 100% true, Ryo-Ohki 3 must be a spectacle to behold. I'll have to keep that in mind for when I get around to it. (But yeah, it seems a lot of fans say Ryo-Ohki 3 wasn't good, and not just because the dub had a change of voice actors.)


From what I gathered, according to the review, the character designer for the original direct to video release was given control of that iteration, and his only writing credits are Tenchi Muyo and anime porn, hence why they apparently degenerated. Also the guy apparently releases straight up porn of the characters in his free time and fan fiction, which sounds pretty autistic, maybe he's a lolscow...


Not a problem. As to your question, it's hard to say since it's all a matter of opinion, but outside of Ryo-Ohki and Universe, I don't know how many of them are must-sees. I also haven't seen all of them yet, but what I have seen (my friend and I are currently on Magical Project S, though we did watch Daughter of Darkness) I've liked. My current favorite though is the Pretty Sammy universe, since magical girl bias and all that lol. (Magical Project S and its spin-off sequels don't have a dub, though.)

Interesting, I'll probably end up preferring Universe myself. But I'll check them all out
 
Also I feel like Adult Swim picked Inuyasha of all things just for advertising as well as parody. Inuyasha was like.. the staple long-running anime on Adult Swim, I watched a lot of it over the years when I was younger.
Seeing how that skit played out, they also went for the "reverse psychology" trope with the dad doing all that just to basically get the TV in the end. Using InyYasha as the show the daughter watched worked so perfectly well.

Inuyasha was one of three anime shows I always remember Adult Swin broadcasting every Satuday nights. other two being FLCL and Cowboy Bebop. Fun fact about me I use to think FLCL was a full length anime with tons of episodes, because it was on Adult Swim for so dame long.
Despite there only being SIX episodes total they played over and over and over. All three programs were certainly the ones people never shut up about.

the weird thing with FLCL is that [as] seems to air it in bursts, rather than the near-constant playng Bebop gets. It'll air non-stop for a few months, disappear for a year or two, and suddenly start reairing. Not that I'm complaining, of course, FLCL's amazing.
Again, six episodes, not much you can do there besides bore your audience if you ran it non-stop.

Ironically, for years people had asked [as] to run "Excel Saga", their response in one of those cards was something along the lines of the show being "too annoying" or whatever, yet that would've seemd like the perfect home for it anyway. Whatever the case, it didn't stop Chris Chan from cribbing it anyway for his comics.

Who told you Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki is awful? They're probably talking about its third season, but the original Ryo-Ohki is good. Kind of a rough sit first time around, but I honestly prefer this universe when it comes to how Tenchi met Ryoko, it was a cool, creepy moment. Didn't get much of Washuu until the end of the first Ryo-Ohki, but she made up for it by being in the second one.
The first two "Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki" series are typically considered the best of TM! as a whole, being the earliest videos released prior to the TV shows and movies that followed (1992-95). I loved watching these whenever I could rent one from the store (though originally I rented episode 7 and got way confused because I started so late in the game, never doing that again). While true how the first series sets up the intro of these characters, the second digs a little deeper into some of these characters, while leaving in hints of what a third series could be like, which of course already happened much to our dissappointment.

I got it from the "Anime Abandon" review, which said the original direct to video incarnation is the worst iteration (he says its the product of a crazy anime porn creator), and that the 90s tv series is far better, which is the one I'm familiar with. He does specify he enjoyed the first two seasons, though said they were massively flawed, and that it's third season is awful. According to Wikipedia, it has a fourth one, but he didn't review it. Also there's apparently a bunch of other series and films? Can you give me the lowdown?
The real problem is that of standards and audience demographics. TM! started out as an OVA series meant for an older crowd, as the series was the product of an OVA boom that shoveled out tons of original animated videos often catered to all sorts of groups, but often skewered towards an adult crowd who would be into the sort of themes and interests they like (fan service, violence, sex, etc.). The TV shows that followed for TM! were made to be more accessible, hense why they couldn't fall into the perversive nature the OVA's contained. Of course when Toonami aired the shows later, the OVA's often got the scissors and digital undies treatment whenever those moments showed up (like the hot springs episodes). The TV series didn't get as much due to their emphasis on story and action, though I preferred Tenchi Universe over Techni in Tokyo anyway, as it did led to two follow-up movies I also liked.

Omg I haven't heard of this, that sounds hilarious. If that's 100% true, Ryo-Ohki 3 must be a spectacle to behold. I'll have to keep that in mind for when I get around to it. (But yeah, it seems a lot of fans say Ryo-Ohki 3 wasn't good, and not just because the dub had a change of voice actors.)
That is quite true since production of the English version switched from Pioneer/Geneon (who did the previous TM! titles in the 90's) to Funimation from then on. Pioneer originally released the earlier TM! productions themselves back when they started their OVA line of tapes (El Hazard, Moldiver, Kishin Corps to name of their other titles).

Not a problem. As to your question, it's hard to say since it's all a matter of opinion, but outside of Ryo-Ohki and Universe, I don't know how many of them are must-sees. I also haven't seen all of them yet, but what I have seen (my friend and I are currently on Magical Project S, though we did watch Daughter of Darkness) I've liked. My current favorite though is the Pretty Sammy universe, since magical girl bias and all that lol. (Magical Project S and its spin-off sequels don't have a dub, though.)
I've heard one podcast review give Magical Project S their recommendation since it tends to be very self-aware of the magical girls theme they're spoofing and doesn't take itself seriously.

From what I gathered, according to the review, the character designer for the original direct to video release was given control of that iteration, and his only writing credits are Tenchi Muyo and anime porn, hence why they apparently degenerated. Also the guy apparently releases straight up porn of the characters in his free time and fan fiction, which sounds pretty autistic, maybe he's a lolscow...
Even if he is, at least he knows how to make money off of this. Fans do eat this up simply for the girls they love to spend money on. That is the nature of otaku fandom.

Interesting, I'll probably end up preferring Universe myself. But I'll check them all out
Universe certainly is the more accessible of them bunch. Still I'm a sucker for the OVA and its titilating Barbie doll-ish nudity.
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The real problem is that of standards and audience demographics. TM! started out as an OVA series meant for an older crowd, as the series was the product of an OVA boom that shoveled out tons of original animated videos often catered to all sorts of groups, but often skewered towards an adult crowd who would be into the sort of themes and interests they like (fan service, violence, sex, etc.). The TV shows that followed for TM! were made to be more accessible, hense why they couldn't fall into the perversive nature the OVA's contained. Of course when Toonami aired the shows later, the OVA's often got the scissors and digital undies treatment whenever those moments showed up (like the hot springs episodes). The TV series didn't get as much due to their emphasis on story and action, though I preferred Tenchi Universe over Techni in Tokyo anyway, as it did led to two follow-up movies I also liked.

Interesting, What do you think of the franchise as a whole? What do you recommend?


Even if he is, at least he knows how to make money off of this. Fans do eat this up simply for the girls they love to spend money on. That is the nature of otaku fandom.

Does it make money?
 
Interesting, What do you think of the franchise as a whole? What do you recommend?
Definitely Ryo-Ohki 1 and 2 are worth a watch, even if they are over two decades old. War on Geminar is okay, though I seem to be a bit harsher towards it than the average person. I got about halfway through Tenchi Universe before stopping, and I don't remember why. Maybe I'll try finishing it after I finish up what I'm currently watching.

That said, I'd recommend avoiding Ai Tenchi Muyo! and GXP. Ai Tenchi Muyo is four minute episodes about absolutely nothing, and GXP has pretty much just one joke that gets done to death within the first several episodes and then gets a very inconsistent tone. Honestly can't recommend either of them.
 
I got it from the "Anime Abandon" review, which said the original direct to video incarnation is the worst iteration (he says its the product of a crazy anime porn creator), and that the 90s tv series is far better, which is the one I'm familiar with. He does specify he enjoyed the first two seasons, though said they were massively flawed, and that it's third season is awful. According to Wikipedia, it has a fourth one, but he didn't review it. Also there's apparently a bunch of other series and films? Can you give me the lowdown?
sage's opinions on anime are infamously bad, honestly. Don't really use his stuff as a base line for anything- he genuinely doesn't know what the hell he's even talking about a lot of the time.

Also yeah, the Tenchi guy does release doujins for the Tenchi multiverse- but from what I know, it's pretty evenly split between 'expanding the setting/furthering the ties between Ryo-ohki and the spin offs' and 'lol i just wanted to draw them fucking'. Not to surprising, honestly. It's not too unheard of for mangaka/animators to do this sorta shit anyway. The Black Lagoon guy does it, Go Nagai does it, Masamune Shiro does it- list goes on.

Japan's weird, man. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Which are good, which are bad? Which to watch, which to avoid?
Ryo-Ohki is pretty fun, but I've only seen the first season. Avoid GXP, it's considered a low point along side Ryo-Ohki 3.

War on Geminar is also pretty fun, but the only ties to Tenchi proper is the protagonist being Tenchi's little brother and Washuu making a text-only cameo in the beginning and ending. It's fairly standalone because of it, but it helps to have seen at least some of the Ryo-Ohki stuff. season two fucking when

Dual is apparently amazing, but I haven't seen it. Only tangentially related to the franchise, apparently? I've heard the ties are made more explicit in the doujins.
 
I think GXP would be ok if it wasn't called Tenchi Muyo. Unfortunately it would be just another harem show.
It just wouldn't betray expectations that you get from the name. I may have been in a terrible mood the day I watched it, but it just wasn't interesting or captivating in any fashion. Pretty much a standard issue harem (...and I think the harem spent a fairly decent amount of time not present) comedy that suddenly decides to go all dark and edgy, at which point I gave up and found something else to waste my time with.
 
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