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[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Arguably it started in the 70s with Cutey Honey, it persisted in the 80s with stuff like Urusei Yatsura, Ranma 1/2, Dr. Slump, and Dragon Ball, and it became what it is today in the 90s and 2000s as animation houses began to rely on selling body pillows and anime figurines to make their money. I'm surprised you don't think 2000s anime has pedophilia; RahXephon was unwatchable because of it. Even Pokemon has pedo moments. Meanwhile, you can watch a good 70s show like Steel Jeeg and not have to suffer through any weird sex stuff.

I'm not sure how you could read into anything like that being in Pokemon, at least the early stuff (I stopped watching it shortly after Orange League). I was there as a kid, and it was being torn apart by parents who wanted it banned, but never once did that ever seem to come up as a complaint.

I didn't watch a lot of Urisei Yatsura or Slump but didn't see anything like that there either, and certainly not in Dragon Ball, some people try to claim Goku taking a piss counts but that's a stretch. Never even heard of RahXephon, I'm assuming this was playing on Japanese TV, but what I meant by "what made it to TV" obviously means American TV. I guess I'm not surprised they had a ton of this shit on TV over there, we probably just cherry picked safer stuff to play here like Cowboy Bebop, Digimon, and all that mainstream stuff.

 

[Dewey Decimal]

Arguably it started in the 70s with Cutey Honey, it persisted in the 80s with stuff like Urusei Yatsura, Ranma 1/2, Dr. Slump, and Dragon Ball, and it became what it is today in the 90s and 2000s as animation houses began to rely on selling body pillows and anime figurines to make their money. I'm surprised you don't think 2000s anime has pedophilia; RahXephon was unwatchable because of it. Even Pokemon has pedo moments. Meanwhile, you can watch a good 70s show like Steel Jeeg and not have to suffer through any weird sex stuff.

Hey retard, the Loli crusader thread is that way.

 

[Space Police]

I'm not sure how you could read into anything like that being in Pokemon, at least the early stuff (I stopped watching it shortly after Orange League).

Admittedly, I've never seen it, but I've heard people say Misty is sexualized and harassed by male characters.

I didn't watch a lot of Urisei Yatsura or Slump but didn't see anything like that there either

Lum's main outfit is a bikini and Slump has lots of sex jokes.

and certainly not in Dragon Ball, some people try to claim Goku taking a piss counts but that's a stretch.

What about Roshi harassing Bulma?

I guess I'm not surprised they had a ton of this shit on TV over there, we probably just cherry picked safer stuff to play here like Cowboy Bebop, Digimon, and all that mainstream stuff.

I wouldn't call Cowboy Bebop safe, even if it doesn't sexualized children. Also from what I understand the original broadcast versions tend to tone down the sex stuff but they add more into the BDs, which is unfortunately what we get to see.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Admittedly, I've never seen it

So you're complaining about something you heard of

I wouldn't call Cowboy Bebop safe, even if it doesn't sexualized children. Also from what I understand the original broadcast versions tend to tone down the sex stuff but they add more into the BDs, which is unfortunately what we get to see

Now this... just shut up. Cowboy Bebop is a masterpiece, get the fuck out.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Admittedly, I've never seen it, but I've heard people say Misty is sexualized and harassed by male characters.

I don't remember that happening, I watched it religiously. There were a couple of banned episodes, but to my recollection they were banned over violence and racial stuff, not Misty being sexualized.

Lum's main outfit is a bikini and Slump has lots of sex jokes.

What about Roshi harassing Bulma?

Do the sex jokes involve Arale? If so that's fucked up. As for Lum and Bulma, they're drawn exactly like the adult characters and treated like them, which is more important than trivia about Lum technically being 17 if you scour the wiki. In Bulma's case she looks exactly like her mom but with differently colored hair.

I wouldn't call Cowboy Bebop safe, even if it doesn't sexualized children. Also from what I understand the original broadcast versions tend to tone down the sex stuff but they add more into the BDs, which is unfortunately what we get to see.

I wasn't aware of them toning down sex stuff in Cowboy Bebop, but I believe it. It's an unpopular opinion but I think censorship helped anime grow in popularity, and wasn't always a bad thing.

Anyway, my only point was I didn't notice anything nearly as degenerate as what's around now on streaming services as opposed to TV in the past, it's as if all standards have been removed. Even if someone doesn't like Lum's outfit or whatever nobody actually cares, whereas this made me delete my watch history and remove it from my favorites list on Crunchyroll so nobody I share my subscription with would think I approved of it:

The one thing I have to give woke media credit for is not doing this stuff. No matter how much Wokeism makes me seethe with unbridled rage, it doesn't usually creep me out. I miss the 90's & 00's, man.

So you're complaining about something you heard of

To be fair, don't we all do this to some extent? I don't watch 99% of the woke trash I complain about.

 

[WelperHelper99]

To be fair, don't we all do this to some extent? I don't watch 99% of the woke trash I complain about

I'm just saying if you are going to blast Pokemon of all shows, bring receipts. Pokemon is borderline a cartoon in terms of squeaky clean.

 

[Horribadger]

I hope that one day I too can be observed to having an "amazing penis" by glowies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zH9Zca1vRM

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

For me, any shows I watch VILL have a focus on futuristic vehicles and bases; cool vehicles can make anything good. It's sad that shonen is the face of anime because it unfairly portrays the rest of us as perverts; literally nobody would think of anime as pedo troonslop media if we just kept getting stuff like Grendizer, Yamato, GoLion, and Gatchaman like we did in the 70s and 80s.

I don't know how old you are, but accusations of anime fans being dangerous sex pests are as old as the medium itself. You can have all anime be traditional Christian values and people would still view fans as ticking timebombs.

And frankly what's the issue with men being perverts? There's some weird idea that media should be either wholesome chungos or full on gooner bait. Having T&A or raunchy humour is fun as long as it's not overused or doesn't go past hard moral limits.

 

[ShitLurker]

This. I decided years ago to just cut out all ShonenSLOP from my media diet in favor of Seinen and I couldn't be happier. I broke my rule due to how cool and stylistic this show looked and was immediately burned lol.

How did you survive the 80s OVA phase of "RAPE AND GORE RAPE AND GORE"? If s shounen makes you cringe, I can't imagine how a good chunk if seinen don't make you shit yourself in fear and disgust. Anyway, this is as ecchi as Dandadan ever gets since episode 1 was basically the chapter pitch of the author still looking for the tone he was aiming for.

 

[BiggestKai]

Scryed is quite something.

 

[Pierre D'Olnique]

Jesus Rollerblading Christ, what in the everloving mother of fuck is the animation in the second episode of Uzumaki? Apparently the animation process was so demanding they just kicked the old director out and outsourced E2 to a million different studios just to get it done? Fucking look at this. I mean, shit. Does this mean further episodes simply do not exist at all yet?

 

[ShitLurker]

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Scryed is quite something.

Scryed was... such a weird show. Saw it a very long time ago but I remember a sensation of "what the hell did I watch" when I finished. But it also left me mostly neutral, I think I enjoyed it but I'm not really sure I would recommend it either.

Jesus Rollerblading Christ, what in the everloving mother of fuck is the animation in the second episode of Uzumaki? Apparently the animation process was so demanding they just kicked the old director out and outsourced E2 to a million different studios just to get it done? Fucking look at this. I mean, shit. Does this mean further episodes simply do not exist at all yet?
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You got to admit, that diagonal running that goes on a straight line is comedy gold. Too bad it's in an adaptation of one of the most visually disturbing (in the good way) manga out there.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

I'm just saying if you are going to blast Pokemon of all shows, bring receipts. Pokemon is borderline a cartoon in terms of squeaky clean.

What's funny is that, when you research the genre, you learn that Pokemon's "spiritual" daddy was basically Shin Megami Tensei... Which is a game all about Demons actually, and even summoning them to fight for you... So even without knowing it, hyperbolic 90s parents were somewhat correct about Pokemon, it actually IS based on Demonic shit lol. And let's not forget about all the innuendo.

And frankly what's the issue with men being perverts?

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I'm just saying if you are going to blast Pokemon of all shows, bring receipts. Pokemon is borderline a cartoon in terms of squeaky clean.

Yeah, there were even more risque scenes in regular western cartoons than in Pokemon. The supernatural elements were what seemed to garner the most controversy around it.

What's funny is that, when you research the genre, you learn that Pokemon's "spiritual" daddy was basically Shin Megami Tensei...

I haven't played it, but I remember reading that a game called NetHack was technically the first to feature these kinds of mechanics, albeit in a much more limited and simplified fashion, and wasn't the focus of the game.

 

[Commander X]

Jesus Rollerblading Christ, what in the everloving mother of fuck is the animation in the second episode of Uzumaki? Apparently the animation process was so demanding they just kicked the old director out and outsourced E2 to a million different studios just to get it done? Fucking look at this. I mean, shit. Does this mean further episodes simply do not exist at all yet?
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This looks like a clip from a show-within-a-show about anime production where characters lament having worked on a terrible series where no corner went uncut. Specifically, I'm thinking of the sequel to the OVA Animation Runner Kuromi where the titular character and her co-workers at a studio are being forced to work on episodes of three different TV series at the same time, which is bad enough but to "help" them, a smug "veteran" producer and his cronies are hired by the owner - but he only cares about meeting deadlines by utilizing sloppy work and cutting corners at the expense of quality - our main character is shown a clip of an episode of a TV show a couple of her co-workers worked on years before, when production of one episode hit a snag this douchebag producer was brought in to oversee it and the resulting episode was sloppy and wildly off-model.

 

[Another Random]

I'm just going to quote this take that I haven't seen before on DanDaDan episode 1 controversial thing.

It has occurred to me that the big spooky/problematic scenes here most closely resemble adolescent sex nightmares, with all the accompanying symbolism and externalization of personal anxieties. Neither experience has the tone or visual language of "realistic" sexual assault, nor the feel of lurid monster hentai or whatever. They have that feeling of disjointed surreal unreality that makes everything scary, sure, but also just sort of confusing and maybe actually slightly funny if it wasn't by all appearances actually happening to you. They're wet dreams with a side of sleep paralysis.

Okarun has an experience going into a dark tunnel and being confronted by vague sexual advances by an old woman who chases him down an endless corridor and traumatically (yet painlessly) castrates him. This is classic fear of women and anxiety about being impotent and emasculated and isolated, which certainly tracks with him being a bullied shy nerd who just met a girl who vaguely humors his nerdy interests for the first time ever.

Momo is wandering around in an abandoned building until she's captured by vaguely-featured salarymen clones who paralyze her and go on to calmly, smilingly explain that they're going to violate her with spiked phallic instruments and harvest her banana organs. This lines up with a conflict between adolescent sexual desire in the abstract and also a fear of loss of autonomy due to social pressure, which seems to be on her mind after her dickhead boyfriend broke up with her for not putting out.

It's only when the two dreams merge that each of them starts to get over their subconscious fears, with Ken subsuming his sense of isolation and owning his curse to become a monster that righteously emasculates his once-hoped-for alien friends/stand-ins for his bullies, and Momo overcoming her fear of being ostracized to roundhouse kick the symbolic boyfriend trying to take advantage of her.

And in the end, Okarun makes a connection with someone who won't abandon him even at his most pathetic and emasculated, and Momo connects with someone who clearly desires her but treats her with implicit respect.

In summary, communication is important, especially to teenagers.

Source is, unfortunately, SomethingAwful. Though I can't say it didn't feel like this to me - it didn't feel like they were trying to make either part of it sexy.

 

[Skyline]

Well according to her she reincarnated Aqua and Ruby and she is floating above the water.

Oh God, will Aqua be reincarnated as Ruby's son?

I think its less that he didn't have a plan and more than he's just moved on to other things and doesn't care as much now. Kaguya's ending got killed by Oshi No Ko, Oshi No Ko's ending is gonna get killed by Renai Daiko.

Genius mangaka Aka Akasaka exposes yet another dark truth about the entertainment industry by embodying it himself. Not that I don't understand to some degree, it must feel quite depressing to be stuck working for years on something that you want to move on from.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

Oh God, will Aqua be reincarnated as Ruby's son?

Yes but this time Ai will be his sister.

Genius mangaka Aka Akasaka exposes yet another dark truth about the entertainment industry by embodying it himself. Not that I don't understand to some degree, it must feel quite depressing to be stuck working for years on something that you want to move on from.

I don't think its necessarily a dislike of Oshi No Ko, but its pretty obvious that a lot of heart and hard work really went into the first half of the manga. I can empathize with being ready for something new, especially if he feels like he can't afford to have downtime between series. I think its telling that he started out with a RomCom and then went to a really unique and informative anime about the Entertainment Industry, and is backing off of that for another RomCom. It seems like the Genius Mangaka is playing safe.

Which I guess again to be fair: The dude's two mangas/animes are Kaguya Sama: Love is War which is extremely popular and beloved the world over, and Oshi No Ko, which is currently extremely popular and beloved the world over. Dude's probably feeling a little pressure, it just sucks we're getting another lack luster ending as a result.

Same shit happened with My hero Academia though. The ending felt incredibly rushed at the end, and its obvious its because the Mangaka was just burned out. I think something similar just happened with Jujutsu Kaisen

 

[WelperHelper99]

What's funny is that, when you research the genre, you learn that Pokemon's "spiritual" daddy was basically Shin Megami Tensei... Which is a game all about Demons actually, and even summoning them to fight for you... So even without knowing it, hyperbolic 90s parents were somewhat correct about Pokemon, it actually IS based on Demonic shit lol. And let's not forget about all the innuendo.
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Lol, i forgot you could name your pokemon in game.

Yeah, there were even more risque scenes in regular western cartoons than in Pokemon. The supernatural elements were what seemed to garner the most controversy around it.

My parents cared more about me watching Adventure Time or Regular Show than they ever did Pokemon for reference. Pokemon was clean as fuck. It just was that Pokemon was I guess spooky. Or something. My parents didn't care, so i never had issues with it.

 

[rich dwarf]

If anyone needs a palate cleanser from Uzumaki, I highly recommend Look Back. It’s an anime movie adaption of that one shot Fujimoto did a few years ago, and Studio Durian did it justice to a tee.