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[DrearyDoomguy]

I really wanna like legends of the galactic empire but seriously it has some of the most unimaginative space battle scenes of any anime they're literally just driving straight at each other

They aren't supposed to be glamorous, they're supposed to be a depiction of what an actual massive scale space battle might realistically look like. And I do think there's quite a bit of creativity in some of the methods and tactics each side uses(chunking asteroids at enemy ships, luring them into minefields, cycling defensive waves to force your enemy into an endless offensive, there's no shortage of examples). There's also plenty of red meat for history buffs as they frequently reference famous real world battles (of note, a later episode almost perfectly recreates the double circumvallation at Cannae).

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

They aren't supposed to be glamorous, they're supposed to be a depiction of what an actual massive scale space battle might realistically look like. And I do think there's quite a bit of creativity in some of the methods and tactics each side uses(chunking asteroids at enemy ships, luring them into minefields, cycling defensive waves to force your enemy into an endless offensive, there's no shortage of examples). There's also plenty of red meat for history buffs as they frequently reference famous real world battles (of note, a later episode almost perfectly recreates the double circumvallation at Cannae).

Real space battles would not look like people driving into each other and getting within vision range of each other they would be fought over hundreds of thousands of miles using asteroids is somewhat accurate but most likely slingshotting yourself around planets gravitational orbit coming in and out of orbits of planets and celestial bodies using them as cover.
As well as moving rapidly up and down to avoid incoming attacks really having a spaceship rapidly move an extremely weird angle such as going straight down very rapidly is completely possible in space because there's absolutely no drag.

I do actually like the show because it actually shows one of the most respectful depictions of democracy versus autocracy but I usually just skip the space combat
also I still find it funny that the overall plot is both sides are secretly being controlled by Jews sorry dirty bankers

also black Clover is still one of the better magic enemies
also the third episode of gate it's still one of the best arguments why heavy artillery and modern weaponry is superior to magic screw your magic I have an M16

 

[Betonhaus]

Real space battles would not look like people driving into each other and getting within vision range of each other they would be fought over hundreds of thousands of miles using asteroids is somewhat accurate but most likely slingshotting yourself around planets gravitational orbit coming in and out of orbits of planets and celestial bodies using them as cover.
As well as moving rapidly up and down to avoid incoming attacks really having a spaceship rapidly move an extremely weird angle such as going straight down very rapidly is completely possible in space because there's absolutely no drag

The Lost Fleet by Jack Campbell goes into this rather deeply. Ant ship in space would be going very fast but still take a long time to close gaps. Being able to make fast changes in direction would put such an unimaginable amount of force on the ship and it's crew that you need magical inertia dampeners to do so. Any battles that sues cover would require an extremely dense asteroid field that would not be very common in space, and woild usually be avoided anyways. Any space battle would have you see your enemies moves hours or days in advanced, unless they got sci Fi magic like cloaking and infinite strength inertial dampeners

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

The Lost Fleet by Jack Campbell goes into this rather deeply. Ant ship in space would be going very fast but still take a long time to close gaps. Being able to make fast changes in direction would put such an unimaginable amount of force on the ship and it's crew that you need magical inertia dampeners to do so. Any battles that sues cover would require an extremely dense asteroid field that would not be very common in space, and woild usually be avoided anyways. Any space battle would have you see your enemies moves hours or days in advanced, unless they got sci Fi magic like cloaking and infinite strength inertial dampeners

Halo actually gets a lot of what you probably be using in space pretty realistic massive coil guns and firing at ranges of hundreds of thousands of miles.
Basically everything's moving so fast in space you could even create weapons that do nothing but shoot out a bunch of small steel balls if something is moving fast enough in space it will literally rip through anything actually tiny grain of sand nearly destroyed an entire US Space Flight vehicle.

Also once you get to the level of intergalactic travel you probably have technology at that point that's indistinguishable from magic then again if you showed someone an iPhone in the 1100s.
they would think you're a wizard

 

[Betonhaus]

Halo actually gets a lot of what you probably be using in space pretty realistic massive coil guns and firing at ranges of hundreds of thousands of miles.
Basically everything's moving so fast in space you could even create weapons that do nothing but shoot out a bunch of small steel balls if something is moving fast enough in space it will literally rip through anything actually tiny grain of sand nearly destroyed an entire US Space Flight vehicle.

Also once you get to the level of intergalactic travel you probably have technology at that point that's indistinguishable from magic then again if you showed someone an iPhone in the 1100s.
they would think you're a wizard

The thing is that dumb ballistics are easy to dodge once their vector is known, and with the distances involved you have to get right up to your enemy to fire first. And I less you are both going the same direction then you would just be making firing runs against each other.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

The thing is that dumb ballistics are easy to dodge once their vector is known, and with the distances involved you have to get right up to your enemy to fire first. And I less you are both going the same direction then you would just be making firing runs against each other.

Yeah I could see a lot of space weapons especially missiles not just being one engine going continuously instead only burning fuel to adjust itself to the new trajectory.
It actually be really interesting to write out missiles tracking your ship for weeks or days on end
you could also combine that with them having to maneuver in the line of incoming projectiles

 

[Betonhaus]

Yeah I could see a lot of space weapons especially missiles not just being one engine going continuously instead only burning fuel to adjust itself to the new trajectory.
It actually be really interesting to write out missiles tracking your ship for weeks or days on end
you could also combine that with them having to maneuver in the line of incoming projectiles

I guarantee you it make a very good book series to read

 

[Lone MacReady II]

"Japanese Bewitched" .

Hot.

I only started checking it out because Twitter was having a shitfit over it and a friend was weirded out by the premise, so I had to relay things to him as I was reading and the two of us warmed up to it. I think the opening premise is a shit-test if you ask me. It's also kinda tongue-in-cheek in its presentation right out of the gate 'cause it's aware it's a weird concept, especially since the husband is still madly in love with his wife and he and their daughter have discussed that they'd be okay with him waiting for the girl to turn 18 so they could become a family again. Naturally, the wife is weirded out by it and calls them out on it.

Also there's a short chapter at the end of every volume that're literal flashbacks to when the two began dating, and they're such fucking dorks. It's a pretty brilliant thing to include.

My suggestion is you give it a chance. If it doesn't work for you within that first volume, that's fine, just know that Twitter and other likeminded ilk are going to jump to conclusions like they always do.

Twitter also thought this scene from SxF was "sexual". Me thinks the soy drones doth protest too much.

 

[Space Police]

Twitter also thought this scene from SxF was "sexual". Me thinks the soy drones doth protest too much.

How is it sexual? I don't see anything, but then I'm not a gooner.

 

[Eagle Bro]

Spy X family still really good anime even though it's basically just a more elaborate form of missus and Mrs. Smith.

I really wanna like legends of the galactic empire but seriously it has some of the most unimaginative space battle scenes of any anime they're literally just driving straight at each other

awesome mobile suit Gundam has some of the most confusing continuity of any anime.

Spy X Family is basically Mr and Mrs Smith but with a ton of autistic japanese overthinking that really ruins whatever comedy it has going for it. I love the dynamic Anya has with her telepathy powers trying to keep the family together like during the cruise episode, but the characters are just too damn self conscious.

The Japanese are not well known for good Storytelling or Military Tactics. Remember these are the retards that invented the word for intentionally being a shitter for your team/suicide crashing a plane. Kamikaze. The only thing they understand is the concepts of "style over substance" and "sex sells" at the cost of literally everything else.

If you approach gundam as every series being their own continuity, it starts to make a little more sense. Though they can't make a compelling villain to save their lives and Zeon has to be the most overrated "bad guy" faction in all of fiction. They basically only exist as sentient targets for the Gundams to mow through. Once the Universal Century war was over, there was no other bad guy faction to rise and replace them. In fact, the Federation came off as more evil and indifferent at best by the time of IBO. They don't even explain why the U.C. war happened anyway. Not a single line of throwaway dialogue to explain it in any of the series. Its just implied "WW2" with the Zaku's being reminiscent of American GI's, and "cool mecha dont think too much. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BONZAAAIIIIIII!!!!!!"

 

[Hammr2]

How is it sexual? I don't see anything, but then I'm not a gooner.

A nigger on Tiktok


Suspended twitter. Middle school PE teacher...............................

 

[DrearyDoomguy]

Real space battles would not look like people driving into each other and getting within vision range of each other they would be fought over hundreds of thousands of miles using asteroids is somewhat accurate but most likely slingshotting yourself around planets gravitational orbit coming in and out of orbits of planets and celestial bodies using them as cover.

I should stipulate that "realistic" is a relative term and maybe not the best way to phrase it. It's not hard sci-fi by any means but it's supposed to feel far more grounded. It doesn't show the hours of flying through the void but occasionally does mention how a particular section of a fleet cannot assist the other due to being several hours away. As for the close range combat, the in universe justification is that it's necessary for fighters squadrons to engage the enemy. Compared to typical sci-fi it's less about the technology and more about how it's used, particularly in terms of large scale tactics. The ships aren't perfectly realistic but their capabilities feel relatively consistent and don't really change at all over the course of the show - the outcome of battles are entirely determined by who has the better strategy, and in some cases are outright resolved by playing politics with the opposing side.

Either way, "unimaginative" is just not a good way to describe them. The execution may not be flashy but there's quite a bit going on in those battles beyond ships just driving at each other.

 

[Space Police]

If you approach gundam as every series being their own continuity, it starts to make a little more sense.

What do you mean by this? Most Gundam shows are their own continuity; not all Gundam shows contribute to one big ongoing story that builds on itself.

Though they can't make a compelling villain to save their lives and Zeon has to be the most overrated "bad guy" faction in all of fiction. They basically only exist as sentient targets for the Gundams to mow through.

Zeon love can get a bit excessive, both in Gundam's universe and ours, but Zeon isn't just a series of MOTWs. At first it's a regime that tries to gain power by parading around a political ideology it doesn't actually believe in, but then it becomes a doomsday personality cult to Char/Haman/Glemy.

Once the Universal Century war was over, there was no other bad guy faction to rise and replace them. In fact, the Federation came off as more evil and indifferent at best by the time of IBO. They don't even explain why the U.C. war happened anyway.

IBO isn't connected to UC, but the the Federation is supposed to be evil and indifferent after Zeon. It's explained many times why the UC wars (each UC show tackles a separate war, not one ongoing conflict) happened, so I don't know what to say to you.

 

[Betonhaus]

wasn't there a manga where the MC reincarnates into a fantasy world of a book she read, but as the purse dog for the villianess?

 

[ShitLurker]

Bit late to the show but...

Nagatoro's final chapter was a little too subdued for my liking. If I didn't know it was the finale I would've thought it was just another random chapter. I kinda suspect Naoto's worries about not being sure what his plans were for the future was the mangaka's worries about not knowing how he wanted to end it.

Agreed, the final chapter was honestly pretty meh, felt meandering and inconclusive. But I'm still on copium...

The true epilogue is yet to come, invest in hopecoin.

and hoping this epilogue gives us a timeskip and a sendoff. What a tragedy that My Hero Academia gets like 7 chapters of shit tier epilogue while legitimately good series smash the pedal instead of taking a bit more time.

I gave Fullmetal Alchemist (2003) a watch. I can see how people kind of prefer it over Brotherhood. It's a completely different feel to it, I may not know if the creator even liked it or not seeing how the 2003 anime went a completely different path from how the manga wanted it to go. I don't know if Arakawa even had a hand with it since it feels like they've begun expanding a lot of the characters in it despite some of the filler shit. Like It's nice seeing Hughes in action to really let you know he's capable of getting things done.
The Nina scene now has some fucking weight to it now since we see her around the Elric brothers
edit:also the opening song is better than Yui's Again

The biggest sin of 2003 existing was that it made the Brotherhood team blitz through the content already covered in 2003. 2003 did a fantastic job with Nina and Hughes, you fucking felt in your gut those moments in 2003 since it took so much time to establish them. Brotherhood was blink and you miss it.

 

[Lisa Frank Abomination]

Can anyone confirm if 2.5 Dimensional Seduction is censored compared to the manga? Or just censored at all?

I've been watching as it airs. It's your run of the mill ecchi censoring - really similar to the weekly chapters (steamy cloud level censoring versus the physical volumes that are completely uncensored if I'm remembering correctly). I'm enjoying it quite a lot, it's been pretty faithful to the feel of the manga so far.

My biggest thing is they went really hard on the blushing, which is just a personal pet peeve.

Also as a Mikarin ult, the first part of the series is absolutely killer to re-visit, holy shit.

 

[Another Random]

You guys are missing the My Hero Academia meltdown going on Twitter and other sites right now.

Spoiler: Quick summary.

Long story short, the last chapter leaked shows that after One For All's embers ran out, Deku basically gave up on being a superhero and ended up working as a teacher at UA, with Horikoshi trying to make it seem like it's just Deku growing up and passing on his dream to the next generation, while changing the point of the story from "This is how I became the Greatest Hero" to "This is how we became the Greatest Heroes". Everyone who expected Deku and Ochako to get together after the last chapter is disappointed because it's like they never got together and 4chan is running with the joke that Deku's now the janitor. And of course, none of the fujoshi got the pairings they wanted confirmed even if there was no denying either, so there was some butthurt for a while.

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

You guys are missing the My Hero Academia meltdown going on Twitter and other sites right now.

Spoiler: Quick summary.

Long story short, the last chapter leaked shows that after One For All's embers ran out, Deku basically gave up on being a superhero and ended up working as a teacher at UA, with Horikoshi trying to make it seem like it's just Deku growing up and passing on his dream to the next generation, while changing the point of the story from "This is how I became the Greatest Hero" to "This is how we became the Greatest Heroes". Everyone who expected Deku and Ochako to get together after the last chapter is disappointed because it's like they never got together and 4chan is running with the joke that Deku's now the janitor. And of course, none of the fujoshi got the pairings they wanted confirmed even if there was no denying either, so there was some butthurt for a while.

To think that the very spin-off of this garbage ended better.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Catching up on Demon Slayer, the later episode of the seasons are better than the atrocious start, but the 24/7 dick sucking of the main protagonist never stops and it's one of the worse training arcs I've seen.

There's a reason why anime training arcs are always "do this silly task for 3 episodes". It doesn't wear out its welcome and has a good way to accentuate character flaws. DS has the training be like a conveyor belt of trials barely expanding on them, and never letting anyone but the protagonist excel in anything (where a better writer would at least have the secondary characters do well in some of the trials).

Also jesus christ just stop killing children for drama. And having fake out villain death is pointless when it's obvious there's still more to go.

Nice explosion tho

You guys are missing the My Hero Academia meltdown going on Twitter and other sites right now.

Spoiler: Quick summary.

Long story short, the last chapter leaked shows that after One For All's embers ran out, Deku basically gave up on being a superhero and ended up working as a teacher at UA, with Horikoshi trying to make it seem like it's just Deku growing up and passing on his dream to the next generation, while changing the point of the story from "This is how I became the Greatest Hero" to "This is how we became the Greatest Heroes". Everyone who expected Deku and Ochako to get together after the last chapter is disappointed because it's like they never got together and 4chan is running with the joke that Deku's now the janitor. And of course, none of the fujoshi got the pairings they wanted confirmed even if there was no denying either, so there was some butthurt for a while.

That is impressively bad. At least have the MC be a cop or a firefighter. Also of course it's pozzed so god forbid MC actually gets married and have children. Better he raises other people's children to fulfill his childhood fantasies because that never ends badly.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Deku basically gave up on being a superhero and ended up working as a teacher at UA, with Horikoshi trying to make it seem like it's just Deku growing up and passing on his dream to the next generation, while changing the point of the story from "This is how I became the Greatest Hero" to "This is how we became the Greatest Heroes".

Horikoshi sounds like enough of a fag to buy into the lie teachers are heroes. What a crock of shit, glad I never got into MHA lol. Sky High really is the better series.