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[Oddjob OTP]

MHA has particularly struggled with it's large cast and thus we've spent 2 years on the same 4 fights.

Yeah, his problem is not being consistent about it. What are the MHA arcs people actually like? Stain, Overhaul, Gentle, anything with Toga in it. The arcs he actually gave room to breathe that go into one or two characters and give them a story. No one gave a shit about Class B or classes from other schools or the revolutionary army or whatever. He's trying to give every character in his story an ending but most of them were only ever wet farts and time spent on them is sunk cost fallacy.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Yeah, his problem is not being consistent about it. What are the MHA arcs people actually like? Stain, Overhaul, Gentle, anything with Toga in it. The arcs he actually gave room to breathe that go into one or two characters and give them a story. No one gave a shit about Class B or classes from other schools or the revolutionary army or whatever. He's trying to give every character in his story an ending but most of them were only ever wet farts and time spent on them is sunk cost fallacy.

I have no issue trying to wrap up everything, but you need to be concise. Two years ago we were fighting Dabi, Toga, All For One and Shigaraki. Two years later up until very recently, we're still fighting Dabi, Toga, All for One, and Shigaraki. Sorry but I just don't care anymore. We've made 0 progress.

 

[HexFag]

I hate Trigger
I hate Trigger
I hate Trigger

Never trust Trigger. They'll fuck it up to some degree.

Unless there's a catastrophic production issue like Zom 100 or Isekai Ojisan (which mainly happened because they were both headed by new studios), I don't possibly see how this can possibly go to shit unless the pacing is just AWFUL.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Unless there's a catastrophic production issue like Zom 100 or Isekai Ojisan (which mainly happened because they were both headed by new studios), I don't possibly see how this can possibly go to shit unless the pacing is just AWFUL.

5 bucks we'll go to space SOMEHOW tho

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

The Planetes anime (sub, not dub, the dub is godawful and makes me want to kill myself) is vastly superior to the manga. To the point where even the cringe ass moon ninja weeaboo losers are made into something that has payoff.

The anime original characters add to a lot of the themes and Hachimaki is an actual character in the anime. Anime Tanabe is better than manga Tanabe by having her friendship with the gold digging stewardess who goes Rambo in the anime.

It also has my favorite opening of all time. (Mostly for the V2 bombing of London and literally saying to the viewer “Werner Von Braun was a baller, faggot”)

 

[ShitLurker]

Yeah, his problem is not being consistent about it. What are the MHA arcs people actually like? Stain, Overhaul, Gentle, anything with Toga in it. The arcs he actually gave room to breathe that go into one or two characters and give them a story. No one gave a shit about Class B or classes from other schools or the revolutionary army or whatever. He's trying to give every character in his story an ending but most of them were only ever wet farts and time spent on them is sunk cost fallacy.

I have no issue trying to wrap up everything, but you need to be concise. Two years ago we were fighting Dabi, Toga, All For One and Shigaraki. Two years later up until very recently, we're still fighting Dabi, Toga, All for One, and Shigaraki. Sorry but I just don't care anymore. We've made 0 progress.

Pretty much,worst part is how it seemed like Endeavor took down All of One and Dabi was also down for the count for both to be huge fakeouts with a shit ton of extra chapters of "who gives a shit".

 

[Betonhaus]

I hate Trigger
I hate Trigger
I hate Trigger

Never trust Trigger. They'll fuck it up to some degree.

With all due respect, your opinion is trash. Trigger makes some of the best animes, full of high energy and batshit crazyness. Trigger is their own thing and cannot be compared to.

 

[UCT]

Yeah, his problem is not being consistent about it. What are the MHA arcs people actually like? Stain, Overhaul, Gentle, anything with Toga in it. The arcs he actually gave room to breathe that go into one or two characters and give them a story. No one gave a shit about Class B or classes from other schools or the revolutionary army or whatever. He's trying to give every character in his story an ending but most of them were only ever wet farts and time spent on them is sunk cost fallacy.

Honestly I really liked the idea of the Meta liberation Army before it got folded into more of Shigarakis gay emo club. I liked the idea of enemies within and it kinda seemed like that was where a nice big arc was going. Re-Destros quirk seemed really interesting as did a bunch of the other members and I was genuinely looking forward to another arc with more world building and less gay emos. Then it just seemed like he stopped caring and wanted to speedrun past any interesting ideas and straight into a final arc that’s lasted for like 3 years or so at this point.

Doesn’t help that I don’t really think any of the remaining bad guys are interesting and never liked Shigaraki, Toga, Fake Deadpool, the lizard and Dabi was such a non-twist I would’ve given the writer more credit if he made him not related to Todoroki at all. Overhaul won me over with his quirk and how he just obliterated that troon lol.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

I think the fundamental problem with Bleach is that Kubo loves designing 40 new characters every arc and then shitting them into the plot, give them zero development, and then they die or whatever randomly and you don't care. It's a general problem in the Battle Shonen genre but I think Bleach is the worst at dealing with it of any of the major titles. Also as a result you don't know the characters well enough to be impressed when they say "that wasn't even my real power" and Bankai/release limiters/stop playing with their opponent/whatever. Wow, a random character with 4 lines just had a new power I didn't know about? Cool I guess.

This is one of the biggest issues with Kubo's writing. He's outright admitted that when he suffers writer's block or has no idea how to move a story forward, he just adds a whole bunch of new characters, and it shows. We've got massive cast herds that get little to no screen time or backstory, with most characters being tossed aside with little to no fanfare while the Soul Reapers, the largest cast herd with the biggest jobbers on the planet, continue to drag themselves along with nary any casualties, removing any dramatic stakes.

As for the whole "that wasn't even my real power" bullshit, this is also one of the biggest issues with Bleach's writing; characters pulling a new mechanical ability out of their ass during a fight that is exactly what they needed at that moment to turn the tide in their favor. People like to say Bleach is "Dragon Ball Z with swords" but DRAGONBALL Z FIGHTS WERE NEVER THAT RETARDED. Raditz was defeated by Goku pinning him down while Piccolo blasted through him with a Special Beam Canon, an ability that everybody already knew Piccolo had and Goku was specifically counting on him to use. Vegeta was defeated by the Spirit Bomb, an ability that Goku spent time learning to use and we saw him learn. Frieza was cut in half with a destructo disk then simply blasted by Goku. Cell was killed by a basic bitch Kamehameha wave. Buu was killed...by a spirit bomb. While every arc of Dragonball Z did introduce new abilities or power ups, like new levels of Super Saiyan or types of fusion, it was never these new abilities that ended the enemy. It was always a basic bitch ability that had already been long learned by the character, with the exception of Goku using the Spirit Bomb to defeat Vegeta.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

We've got massive cast herds that get little to no screen time or backstory, with most characters being tossed aside with little to no fanfare while the Soul Reapers, the largest cast herd with the biggest jobbers on the planet, continue to drag themselves along with nary any casualties, removing any dramatic stakes.

Well, that's a why the TYBW starts off with Chojiro just getting yeeted in the first few minutes. Then Yamamoto dies. Then Byakuya "dies" and Kubo has his foot on the gas pedal for a full on slaughter of the cast. Then...the studio comes in and says "No. You can't kill popular characters because they're what keeping you from being cancelled." And Kubo takes it off. So some characters still die. Some die and come back. Some are gone forever and the stakes are there at least. It's the end of the story so, ya know, anything can happen.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Some are gone forever and the stakes are there at least. It's the end of the story so, ya know, anything can happen.

Bullshit there were any stakes. Nobody of any real consequence died except Yamamoto and Uohana (who died in the stupidest manner possible). After Byakuya survived, any chance for there being any real dramatic stakes went completely out the window, and the final arc just became another Bleach arc.

 

[Registration]

It os really funny to see how dragon ball heroes mangaka doesn't try to do action like the original or super. You can see the poses done right but the fight scenes are almost like someone trying to copy the scenes by description rather than seeing it by himself.

Full fan service too, fun but a bit too bloated for so little page count

 

[The Fair Lady]

Bullshit there were any stakes. Nobody of any real consequence died except Yamamoto and Uohana (who died in the stupidest manner possible). After Byakuya survived, any chance for there being any real dramatic stakes went completely out the window, and the final arc just became another Bleach arc.

Kubo’s Villain Sue killing Yamamoto was the first sign of TYBW going down the drain. It only nosedived from there as he introduced all the paper-thin Sternritters (many of whom had dumb designs) and killed off other characters in the most retarded and lazy ways. Having Nemu get blown up by a living hand that tries to eat her remains afterwards? Having one of the Sternritters turn out to be a brain in a jar? How the hell are you supposed to take any of that seriously?

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Bullshit there were any stakes. Nobody of any real consequence died except Yamamoto and Uohana (who died in the stupidest manner possible). After Byakuya survived, any chance for there being any real dramatic stakes went completely out the window, and the final arc just became another Bleach arc.

Except characters did die. Whether they're of consequence or not isn't important. What's important is how it contributes to the story as a whole. Komamura's "death" is a good example and a great round off to his story about revenge. High stakes is not what makes a story. Character arcs are everything. And TYBW being the end of the series, we're getting the end of most characters' arcs. Most of the Quincy don't matter and they were never meant to. They're just there to challenge the characters we are familiar with.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Auakashi Triangle's first episode was pretty good. It leans a bit more heavily into the fan servicey stuff than I'd like it to, but it's a funny show and has some decent action. I'll probably watch some more.

Vegeta was defeated by the Spirit Bomb, an ability that Goku spent time learning to use and we saw him learn.

Spirit Bomb just weakened him enough that everyone wouldn't immediately die by fighting him, and he actually went on to still beat everyone's ass. What beat him was the Great Ape transformation.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Auakashi Triangle's first episode was pretty good. It leans a bit more heavily into the fan servicey stuff than I'd like it to

Uh, it's an ecchi. Always has been.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Whether they're of consequence or not isn't important.

No, that is very important. Killing some random no name redshirt that nobody gives a fuck about doesn't carry any narrative stakes. The audience doesn't give a shit about the character and there is no risk to killing them. Killing them doesn't really effect the story. Keep in mind that the vast majority of the major deaths in this arc were the Stenritter themselves. Most of them died without killing a single one of their onscreen opponents, and they were mostly killed off by Yhwach himself or by other Sternritter, so it wasn't even like they lost to the Shinigami.

Most of the Quincy don't matter and they were never meant to.

WHICH IS THE PROBLEM. They should have mattered. The Sternritter ended up accomplishing nothing in the end besides dragging this story out a few more years. Seriously, the story could have ended with Ichigo losing his powers and nothing of consequence would have changed.

Spirit Bomb just weakened him enough that everyone wouldn't immediately die by fighting him, and he actually went on to still beat everyone's ass. What beat him was the Great Ape transformation.

Been awhile since I've seen that part of DBZ. I remembered that there was a Great Ape transformation somewhere, but I thought it was Vegeta that did it as a last ditch effort. In any case, the point still stands; the Great Ape transformation was well established at that point as a part of Goku's repertoire, and it was established in this very arc as something all Saiyans and half-Saiyans could do.

 

[God of Nothing]

WHICH IS THE PROBLEM. They should have mattered. The Sternritter ended up accomplishing nothing in the end besides dragging this story out a few more years. Seriously, the story could have ended with Ichigo losing his powers and nothing of consequence would have changed.

B-But muh fancy new animation!

Kubo’s Villain Sue killing Yamamoto was the first sign of TYBW going down the drain. It only nosedived from there as he introduced all the paper-thin Sternritters (many of whom had dumb designs) and killed off other characters in the most retarded and lazy ways. Having Nemu get blown up by a living hand that tries to eat her remains afterwards? Having one of the Sternritters turn out to be a brain in a jar? How the hell are you supposed to take any of that seriously?

nah, man
some random guy pulling up, declaring themselves the son of god, killing literally everyone, and only losing because he gave the protagonist an opportunity to is good writing
just ignore how aizen lacks only one element relating to him because aizen is totally a good character
He's not and I have no idea why everyone acts like he is when his motivation is lost even to himself.

 

[Space Police]

I wasn't aware of this, but Brave Universe Sworgrader -- the latest entry in the venerable saga of the Braves -- is being translated! It's pretty good so far. It seems like they're doing a Brave multiverse thing, but there are still new robots, a new setting, and new characters. I like how they're capture the charm of Exkaiser and Fighbird (the scene at the beginning with the main character and his dad was sweet) but are keeping the stakes high and the story interesting so far. It's excellent that they're giving the main character a cute little robot sidekick in the form of an egg timer named ANIMO-014! I wish more super robot protagonists had these kinds of little robot sidekicks. Additionally, the main robot, Sworg, is pretty cool if for no other reason than that he's a food truck Transformer. I'm happy they're using the "galactic police" motif for the new characters.

I honestly thought this wouldn't be translated, at least for a while. The translator of GaoGaiGar vs Betterman refused to pick up Sworgrader due to concerns over it being pedophilic (it's not, by the way), but I'm glad it's being translated anyway. I think the Waffleman translation is better than the /m/ translation since it carries the puns over into English well and the fonts are better.

 

[DrearyDoomguy]

I started watching Legend of the Galactic Heroes recently since it's such a meme amongst /a/ types, and after the Alliance's ill-fated first incursion into Imperial territory I'm hooked. The politics are executed well enough to be interesting on their own but the space battles are seriously next level stuff, even with the dated animation and the initially disorienting visual motif of portraying fleets of distant ships as pinpoints of light. If I still had the free time to binge series like I used to I'd be on episode 50 by now.