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Guys, help me out here. I've tried searching for this anime, but for the life of me I can't find it. Actually, I don't even know if it's one anime or two anime that I've merged through false memories.

So, from what I remember, there are undead humanoid creatures, and there's this (rather masculine) looking guy who I think hunts and kills them. The landscape is a destroyed megalopolis, I think. And there might be vampires as well... and since my memory is so bad, we skip to a scene where we're in a garden. The hunter dude is talking to a very feminine boy. I think I was still Christian when I watched this. I thought he was gay and therefor evil, but apparently he was a good guy. I didn't understand what bishonen was. They're talking about something. When they've finished talking, the butler, an old man, transformed into a monster, although he was still clearly human, but he was destroyed by the boy, I think. I think the butler accused him of something.

Then we fast forward again, because I don't remember anything in-between. A young maiden is crying out in the snow, because her doggy had died, and then some handsome guy with somber looks in his eyes revives it with his blood, unbeknownst to the maiden. Unfortunately, the puppy's revival was seen by some hooded men, probably cultists. They think she revived the creature and went upon her, slaying her mercilessly. They also killed the dog, I think and drank the blood of both bodies. They believed they could become powerful or gods, or something. The man looks upon this act hidden while the snow was falling. It was either with irrelevance in his gaze or with a sadness in his eyes, he looks away (maybe).

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It must have been a 2000s show. The boy especially had really big, I think blue eyes and was blonde. I can't remember the line-work too well, but the garden scene gave an almost aethereal presence, like it was done with several layers with gradients. The garden had a lot of greenery, I think it might have been covered with a glass dome.

I think the sad man cut his hand or something in order to "save" or "revive" the puppy/doggy.

There was a strong presence of death, the humanoid monsters had red irises, I think.

I know this doesn't narrow it down, but this is all I remember. I can't believe it, since I watched it between 10-12 years of age. I should be able to recall stuff like this.
 
Guys, help me out here. I've tried searching for this anime, but for the life of me I can't find it. Actually, I don't even know if it's one anime or two anime that I've merged through false memories.

So, from what I remember, there are undead humanoid creatures, and there's this (rather masculine) looking guy who I think hunts and kills them. The landscape is a destroyed megalopolis, I think. And there might be vampires as well... and since my memory is so bad, we skip to a scene where we're in a garden. The hunter dude is talking to a very feminine boy. I think I was still Christian when I watched this. I thought he was gay and therefor evil, but apparently he was a good guy. I didn't understand what bishonen was. They're talking about something. When they've finished talking, the butler, an old man, transformed into a monster, although he was still clearly human, but he was destroyed by the boy, I think. I think the butler accused him of something.

Then we fast forward again, because I don't remember anything in-between. A young maiden is crying out in the snow, because her doggy had died, and then some handsome guy with somber looks in his eyes revives it with his blood, unbeknownst to the maiden. Unfortunately, the puppy's revival was seen by some hooded men, probably cultists. They think she revived the creature and went upon her, slaying her mercilessly. They also killed the dog, I think and drank the blood of both bodies. They believed they could become powerful or gods, or something. The man looks upon this act hidden while the snow was falling. It was either with irrelevance in his gaze or with a sadness in his eyes, he looks away (maybe).

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It must have been a 2000s show. The boy especially had really big, I think blue eyes and was blonde. I can't remember the line-work too well, but the garden scene gave an almost aethereal presence, like it was done with several layers with gradients. The garden had a lot of greenery, I think it might have been covered with a glass dome.

I think the sad man cut his hand or something in order to "save" or "revive" the puppy/doggy.

There was a strong presence of death, the humanoid monsters had red irises, I think.

I know this doesn't narrow it down, but this is all I remember. I can't believe it, since I watched it between 10-12 years of age. I should be able to recall stuff like this.
The first part sounds like it could possibly be the climax of Hellsing Ultimate, which involves monster hunters, vampires, evil transforming butlers and prettyboys duking it out in a destroyed city but not necessarily in the exact way you’re describing.
 
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So I watched the first three episodes of Legend of the Galactic Heroes tonight. It's not bad, but I then went and read the first hundred or so pages of the first LOTGH novel, and it is light years better in terms of backstory, explanation etc. It's genuinely a good read and I think I'm going to watch/read as I go to compare the two and see how they're portrayed.

But I've gotten a taste for good space opera anime. Any other recommendations? (Besides Macross, which I already know about)
 
So I watched the first three episodes of Legend of the Galactic Heroes tonight. It's not bad, but I then went and read the first hundred or so pages of the first LOTGH novel, and it is light years better in terms of backstory, explanation etc.
Are you watching the old OVAs, or Die Neue Thesis? The latter leaves a ton on the cutting room floor.
 
The first part sounds like it could possibly be the climax of Hellsing Ultimate, which involves monster hunters, vampires, evil transforming butlers and prettyboys duking it out in a destroyed city but not necessarily in the exact way you’re describing.
No, it's not Hellsing.
 
She better start rocking soon because I'm sick to death of MCs with apparent brain damage whose only characteristic is dragging out scenes with their fucking stutter
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I saw some cover art of The Promised Neverland (very beautiful) and read it. It started, well, promising, with hyperintelligent (competitive and good at high school math) children in an unfamiliar setting, where they can be justified in handily resolving plots but also have an excuse to not build a tactical nuke in the basement.

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I've never seen a series drop so fast and so low. It never stops getting worse and goes full globohomo / Tokyo Ghoul cuckening by the end. I made a note every time something retarded happened and they ended up comprising 8000 words. All the beautiful cover artworks are lies, nothing like that is in the books.

The single worst drop in quality is this:
- they've abandoned a compromised shelter and blew it up with a built-in self-destruct button
- they live in another shelter, which also has a self-destruct button, on a remote no less; a genius girl has it within easy reach
- this shelter is also compromised, they're being invaded and decide to abandon it
- they get out, kill the sole lookout, all the living enemies are inside
- time to push that self-destruct button, no?
- wrong! two guys go in to get ventilated and blow up some gas, lol
- they're eulogized for 5 whole chapters
- these are the only protagonists who die in the story

(But it keeps getting worse with every page. The story ends with the genius children setting Earth up for invasion by a legion of human-eating genestealer demons, and looking back it's the most logical, straightforward, and predictable outcome.)

I'd say Manga used to be 30 years ahead of the West when it comes to comic books.
More like behind.
 
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I saw some cover art of The Promised Neverland (very beautiful) and read it. It started, well, promising, with hyperintelligent (competitive and good at high school math) children in an unfamiliar setting, where they can be justified in handily resolving plots but also have an excuse to not build a tactical nuke in the basement.


I've never seen a series drop so fast and so low. It never stops getting worse and goes full globohomo / Tokyo Ghoul cuckening by the end. I made a note every time something retarded happened and they ended up comprising 8000 words. All the beautiful cover artworks are lies, nothing like that is in the books.

The single worst drop in quality is this:
- they've abandoned a compromised shelter and blew it up with a built-in self-destruct button
- they live in another shelter, which also has a self-destruct button, on a remote no less; a genius girl has it within easy reach
- this shelter is also compromised, they're being invaded and decide to abandon it
- they get out, kill the sole lookout, all the living enemies are inside
- time to push that self-destruct button, no?
- wrong! two guys go in to get ventilated and blow up some gas, lol
- they're eulogized for 5 whole chapters
- these are the only protagonists who die in the story

(But it keeps getting worse with every page. The story ends with the genius children setting Earth up for invasion by a legion of human-eating genestealer demons, and looking back it's the most logical, straightforward, and predictable outcome.)


More like behind.
further proof midwits cannot write intelligent characters
i'd post the sherlock /tv/ meme but tor browser is weird with those on kiwifarms right now
 
further proof midwits cannot write intelligent characters
i'd post the sherlock /tv/ meme but tor browser is weird with those on kiwifarms right now

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The Promised Neverland is nothing like that, it drops the pretense of smart protagonists - or for that matter child protagonists, they handle heavy weaponry like no one's business - really fast and hard.

As people hypothesized in the thread, the writer must have plotted the escape (it's not too smart, but it's entertaining, with characters working at cross-purposes and messing up each other's plans) and didn't know what to do afterward. The escape arc, too, has problems, but nothing plot-critical (the mysteries set up in it turn into massive plot holes later, but I count them later). And I love the cast:

“Neverland” is a reference to Peter Pan: the children don’t grow up (because they get eaten). The “promise” part was added to avoid a lolsuit from the Barrie estate. There is a promise involved in how the place came to be. It also references what the children seek: a promised land, a place where they can live without fear of demons. (In the course of the story, they will be offered three such places, all fake and dangerous; the fourth, our actual IRL Earth, they’ll set up for destruction themselves.) As titles go, this is S-tier.

Now, the three protagonists are in fact growing up.

When the story starts, they are 11 years old (in Western years).

Emma is an overly, gratingly optimistic girl; she’s the most athletic of the three but her cheerfulness gets in the way of winning games. Nevertheless, she’s the one helping the orphanage’s sole caretaker, “Mom” Isabella, with babies and toddlers.

Norman is am Aryan Ubermensch. He’s a genius beyond what the advanced tests can measure but also athletic and virtuous. He’s also - and this is his one character “flaw” - in love with Emma, so he wants to please her even if she’s being retarded.

Ray is a “goth kid”, to the extent that it’s possible in the orphanage (they all wear white clothes, so his goffikness is limited to black hair, a bad haircut, and a sour mood). He has a phenomenal memory and prefers reading books to physical games. His flaw, and adult aspect, is that he doesn’t have childhood amnesia and actually knew the orphanage was a meat farm all along - so he never got a childhood, and watching his “siblings” get shipped off to be fed to demons has made him a bit of a doomer. (On a side note, Ray remembers having been in his mother’s womb, which is based on part of the writer.)

No “jock”, “cuck nerd”, “slut”, “I’m not like other girls”; the kids are intelligent (for kids) but they have no knowledge of the world or advanced science, so they can win without getting questioned by fedora atheists why they don’t just build a nuke in recess if they’re so damn clever. The series is off to a good start as it delivers almost all necessary info in a very economic 50-something page first chapter.

...

In the bunker, they meet an adult orphanage escapee who’s been living alone for over a decade and gone completely doomer.

[retard flashpoint 18/109] Emma immediately hits him in the dick because GURL POWER!!1!

But aside from that, they guy is awesome: he’s mad, he’s a doomer, he’s an expert demon hunter, he wants the children DEAD because they’re FUCKING ANNOYING (man, same), he possibly murdered the rest of his own group in a fit of madness and/or despair, and despite being an adult he’s still somewhat childish due to not having lived in a society.

Also in contrast to the book being very particular about naming every background character, he gives descriptive and insulting nicknames to the children (which is automatically endearing, because I can’t be bothered to remember either) and doesn’t tell them his name (it’s Hugo, by the way).

Naturally, the guy’s unique doomer perspective, 1337 survival skillz, the ability to handle heavy weapons, lack of plot knowledge, doomerism and general antagonism make him a perfect permanent addition to the main cast, especially now that Ray's lightened up and Norman is temporarily out of the picture.

After the escape, however, it could easily pass for a Western woke Calarts comic but with more guns (triggering!) and fewer genderspecials. Intelligence is an informed ability and comes into play exactly twice:
  • a boy invents a poison to turn humanoid demons into nonsapient monsters,
  • on the road to a high-tech city, a boy has been in a coma after getting his head grazed by a bullet and "is suddenly dying" for an unspecified reason, and a girl who's learned "medicine" goes on a fetch quest to get two unspecified drugs to save his life; no explanation for
    • why he is dying
    • how he was diagnosed on the road
    • why he couldn't be rushed to the high-tech city, given that he's small and they have a superpowered speedster on the team
    • why a human factory farm would have drugs to treat him
Both plot points are filler and have no impact on the overall story. There are no twists, no clever plans, they just go in guns blazing and win. (I mean, technically there is a planning stage, but it's a page of "here's the map, Alice goes guns blazing through door 1, Bob goes guns blazing through door 2, Charlie sneaks in through manhole 3 and then blazes his guns", followed by several pages of guns blazing.)

TPM is not a meme midwit story at all. After the escape, it feels like it's written by a 5-year-old heiress of a publishing house.
(The writer of TPM is pseudonymous and is referred to as male, but I bet my rear ovary it's a woman. The artist is female.)

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However, I did remember a manga exactly like that Sherlock meme, The Summer of the Ubume.

  • A man has disappeared from a sealed room, how?
  • He got stabbed, locked himself in a room, and died.
  • But where's the corpse?
  • Right here in the middle of the room, and fresh-looking.
  • People go into the room all the time! why did no one see it? why didn't we see it?
  • Ah... you didn't *~*~want~*~* to see.
  • Why is the corpse fresh? He's been dead for a year and a half!
  • It's saponified, it's also been sprinkled with formaldehyde.
  • What?
  • An insane woman with a three-way split personality was in love with the guy, but he wanted to fuck his dead mom, so after he was stabbed by her also insane twin sister for not fucking her because he'd lost his dick, and locked himself in the room, he saw a vision of his mother as he was dying and said "mother", and she switched to her mother's personality, who comes from a bloodline which produces male tard babies, so she has a genetic memory of smashing children's heads with rocks, and he was curled up in a fetal position because of the stab wound, so she thought he was a baby and smashed his head. See how perfectly it fits together?
  • ...but how did the woman get into the sealed room?
  • Oh that! Why, there's another door in the room.

It goes on and on for 10 chapters. The second-best mystery (because it's hard to beat "yeah, I forgot to mention there's another door in the sealed room, it just never came up somehow lol") is this:
15 or so years ago, Boy 1 fell in love with one of the twin sisters (the nice one, not the dark and sexy one), and asked Boy 2 to deliver a letter to his crush; he did so, and the recipient tried to seduce him. Boy 1 met the girl in person, and they dated for a while, but were forced to break up when the girl got pregnant. Later, he marries the nice sister, but the wife insists she never met the guy before and definitely never got pregnant, and the marriage breaks down.
What do you think happened?
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This tantalizing mystery is stretched for 7 chapters, from 2 to 8, and the resolution is so shocking and unexpected it serves as a cliffhanger!
The writer of the original novel cosplays as his protagonist full-time.

I'll quote my verdict of the TPN shitshow, which equally applies here:
a comic book “writer” can’t be trusted. Either lern2draw and draw your story or gtfo.
 
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