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Tell me you don't know the Underground comix scene without telling me you don't know the Underground comix scene...
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This is the difference, savanna and sanpei shirato wasnt an underground comic in japan in the 70s. It was a normal commercial work.
By comparing comics from the same type of audience, that is the point of the comparisson. if I wanted to compare in a direct way, I would use some garo/ax material,not sanpei shirato of all people who was pretty famous back then.
When I said the 70's manga is a trip, I am not even talking about underground stuff, I am talking about normal commercial stuff like the spider-man manga, that would never be made in the US and go for such strange themes even decades later
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I read the entirety of Chainsaw Man and am caught up to date.
I’ve also read the latest Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan chapters which were pretty great.
MHA is still dogshit and it’s sad how far it fell off.
As for anime, in addition to the seasonal anime I’m watching, I plan to start Monster since it has caught my interest.
Will say that Chainsaw Man (Part 1 at least) is definitely one of the best manga I’ve ever read. The action is very well done, and it has a great cast of characters. Denji is one of my favorite protagonists since his arc of what he wants in life and desire to be loved is really interesting and makes you feel bad for the dude. Power and Aki are both great characters that balance Denji out and make for one of the best trios out there. Makima is also one of my favorite villains since she is one of the few female villains that is not treated like some tragic character and can be as nasty as possible. Especially for what she did to Power and Aki.
There’s a lot of great arcs throughout and the only possible low is really with Santa and the puppets, but everything else is great. So far Part 2 is pretty good
There’s a lot of great arcs throughout and the only possible low is really with Santa and the puppets, but everything else is great. So far Part 2 is pretty good
I’ve also read the latest Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan chapters which were pretty great.
MHA is still dogshit and it’s sad how far it fell off.
As for anime, in addition to the seasonal anime I’m watching, I plan to start Monster since it has caught my interest.
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Monster is excellent, one of my favorites. I watched the dub (twice), and its still surprisingly good. It's slow burn but god damn its worth it, so many great characters and interesting situations. If you watch it I hope you enjoy
Santa was one of my favorites by far, I was under the impression it was a very well liked arc. Halloweeeeen!
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Yeah I heard the dub was good and plan to watch that, I’m genuinely curious about it
The arc itself is good since I loved when they went to Hell, and the stuff with Halloween. But Santa wasn’t that interesting, but I did love her defeat.
I also read Fujimoto’s one shot Look Back and I really enjoyed it, I plan to read all his other manga since his talent is great.
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Eh, is it really that much of a surprise? Capeshit setting, big cast, and a vague main goal for the protagonist are all big warning flags. The end result is an adherence to status quo, focus spread out among too many characters, and a story with no real direction. I haven't seen a popular series destined to fail so much since Attack on Titan and boy did people stick with that pile of shit until it went full retard.
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Check out Fire Punch, it's also excellent. It's shorter than CSM but it burns just as bright.
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During the downtime I read the Demon Slayer manga (after being thoroughly unimpressed with the anime) and was very pleasantly surprised. There’s some subtle changes made to key moments in the anime that turn pretty decent writing into shit:
- In the manga, it is MUCH more clear that most demons remember few if any clear facts about their human lives, and the “sad flashback redemption by death” isn’t just for the audience’s sake but is literally showing the demon remembering the person they used to be, and regretting the atrocities they committed. It’s a lot easier to sympathize with them when it’s clear that at least some of them didn’t even choose to become demons of their own free will, and have actually been supernaturally corrupted by the demonization. Shown best with Akaza, who only remembers that he wants to become the strongest without remembering why, and completely loses the will to fight once he regains his memories.
- When Tanjiro first “discovers” flame breathing, in the manga it’s very clearly presented as a shot-in-the-dark last-ditch effort to pull ANYTHING out of his ass that might increase his chances of survival by even 0.1%, and it doesn’t even work! If anything it reads as a subversion of the 11th-hour power-up. The anime plays it straight with the dramatic music and that’s basically the moment I wrote it off as cliche’d shonen garbage. Funny how a slight reframing like that can completely ruin a scene.
- Another scene I really hated in the anime was when it grinds to a halt to introduce all the hashira at the trial, it felt so forced and out of place. In the manga this is literally a quick 2-page spread. This is something that REALLY doesn’t translate well between mediums, and I wish they’d thought of a better way to adapt it instead of doing it “faithfully” and just introducing them one after the other.
In general my favorite part was how character death is handled, where unlike in many seinen series where gore and death is used for shock/edge factor, here it’s actually treated really well to sell the magnitude of the threat that they face. Realistically, if a group of humans armed with “only” supernaturally-enhanced swordplay were going up against a cabal of centuries-old demons that have killed hundreds as strong as them, it would be stupid plot armor bullshit if most of them didn’t die.
. And while there’s still a little bit of bullshit, I think the author gave a fairly decent explanation for why it is only now that the demon slayers are able to deal with Muzan.
As a Jojo enjoyer it was funny noticing all the little bits and pieces that were obviously inspired by the early Jojo parts, such as breathing being more or less just hamon, Muzan being very similar to Part 3 Dio, and him having a similar motivation to Kars. And, if you want to stretch a little, I think Nezuko’s vine motif demon tattoos may be a reference to Holly’s unnamed vine stand, what with her also being a family member of the protagonist who’s afflicted with a supernatural curse by the main antagonist. I’m also not entirely convinced that Imejima isn’t a reference to Brock from the Pokémon anime, what with him being blind (a commonly made joke about Brock due to his perpetually closed eyes), having spiky hair, stone/rock elemental affiliation, and taking care of a bunch of kids.
Biggest complaint is probably that the manga was OBVIOUSLY meant to have a few extra arcs in the middle that apparently got cut due to the author having health/family issues. It’s impossible not to see Muzan slaughtering the lower moons as anything other than a shortcut to just get them out of the way, and my hypothesis is that there probably would’ve been another two arcs with them, with Muzan killing the remaining three (well… two, not counting the train guy) in frustration. Knowing the real-world circumstances I think it’s an acceptable compromise, but narratively it makes more sense for Muzan to snap and kill his minions in frustration after 2-3 failures rather than a single one.
I still think the anime is HIGHLY overrated and entirely carried by its animation, but the manga is an above-average shonen that’s totally worth a read if you’re into that kind of thing.
- In the manga, it is MUCH more clear that most demons remember few if any clear facts about their human lives, and the “sad flashback redemption by death” isn’t just for the audience’s sake but is literally showing the demon remembering the person they used to be, and regretting the atrocities they committed. It’s a lot easier to sympathize with them when it’s clear that at least some of them didn’t even choose to become demons of their own free will, and have actually been supernaturally corrupted by the demonization. Shown best with Akaza, who only remembers that he wants to become the strongest without remembering why, and completely loses the will to fight once he regains his memories.
- When Tanjiro first “discovers” flame breathing, in the manga it’s very clearly presented as a shot-in-the-dark last-ditch effort to pull ANYTHING out of his ass that might increase his chances of survival by even 0.1%, and it doesn’t even work! If anything it reads as a subversion of the 11th-hour power-up. The anime plays it straight with the dramatic music and that’s basically the moment I wrote it off as cliche’d shonen garbage. Funny how a slight reframing like that can completely ruin a scene.
- Another scene I really hated in the anime was when it grinds to a halt to introduce all the hashira at the trial, it felt so forced and out of place. In the manga this is literally a quick 2-page spread. This is something that REALLY doesn’t translate well between mediums, and I wish they’d thought of a better way to adapt it instead of doing it “faithfully” and just introducing them one after the other.
In general my favorite part was how character death is handled, where unlike in many seinen series where gore and death is used for shock/edge factor, here it’s actually treated really well to sell the magnitude of the threat that they face. Realistically, if a group of humans armed with “only” supernaturally-enhanced swordplay were going up against a cabal of centuries-old demons that have killed hundreds as strong as them, it would be stupid plot armor bullshit if most of them didn’t die.
. And while there’s still a little bit of bullshit, I think the author gave a fairly decent explanation for why it is only now that the demon slayers are able to deal with Muzan.
As a Jojo enjoyer it was funny noticing all the little bits and pieces that were obviously inspired by the early Jojo parts, such as breathing being more or less just hamon, Muzan being very similar to Part 3 Dio, and him having a similar motivation to Kars. And, if you want to stretch a little, I think Nezuko’s vine motif demon tattoos may be a reference to Holly’s unnamed vine stand, what with her also being a family member of the protagonist who’s afflicted with a supernatural curse by the main antagonist. I’m also not entirely convinced that Imejima isn’t a reference to Brock from the Pokémon anime, what with him being blind (a commonly made joke about Brock due to his perpetually closed eyes), having spiky hair, stone/rock elemental affiliation, and taking care of a bunch of kids.
Biggest complaint is probably that the manga was OBVIOUSLY meant to have a few extra arcs in the middle that apparently got cut due to the author having health/family issues. It’s impossible not to see Muzan slaughtering the lower moons as anything other than a shortcut to just get them out of the way, and my hypothesis is that there probably would’ve been another two arcs with them, with Muzan killing the remaining three (well… two, not counting the train guy) in frustration. Knowing the real-world circumstances I think it’s an acceptable compromise, but narratively it makes more sense for Muzan to snap and kill his minions in frustration after 2-3 failures rather than a single one.
I still think the anime is HIGHLY overrated and entirely carried by its animation, but the manga is an above-average shonen that’s totally worth a read if you’re into that kind of thing.
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Tomori Kusonoki announced that she will be retiring from her role as Setsuna Yuki in Love Live! Nijigasaki High School, at the end of next March. She was diagnosed with hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, a genetic disorder, which causes her to suffer from joint pain, and dealing with that has taken a toll on her health both physically and mentally. Her character will be re-casted with another seiyuu, which is TBA.
She did also get the role of Makima in Chainsaw Man, so at least she'll hopefully be around in the industry still, even if she is no longer able to do the live performance roles.
She did also get the role of Makima in Chainsaw Man, so at least she'll hopefully be around in the industry still, even if she is no longer able to do the live performance roles.
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The monster dub is good but it has aged a little since it was recorded back in 2009-2010 by Viz, so the one thing to expect is not a lot of old funimation regulars for better or worse, still probably recommend it since there's a lot of German names, places, and phrases and the English VAs have a little better time pronouncing them then the Japanese ones
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I bet. Reminded of an anime titled "Lagrange" and thinking the dubbers say it wrong the whole time (a street in my town uses it so I know how it should be pronounced).
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I’m enjoying how new chapters of Chainsaw Man come out the same day as new episodes of the anime.
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I'm mad Joran has yet to be released on bluray. It is the closest I'll get to a Lady Snowblood type anime. I hope Lycoris gets one though.
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Same it feels great to see the contrast. Especially with how you see how Denji was back then.
I’m still really glad that Denji didn’t become a completely different person in Part 2 and is still an idiot, but with different goals. Though I wonder when we’ll see his home life with Nayuta, that’s one thing I’m curious about.
Other than that I hope Fujimoto continues being great
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Man it bugs me how Gundam always sucks because I keep watching them anyway. I wish they'd be considerate and make a good one instead because I can't help myself.
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I'd say Manga used to be 30 years ahead of the West when it comes to comic books.