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CryptoHermit said:
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Saying the kid is into Japanese books are very vague in terms of interest, if you consider that anime/manga are huge now. I'm assume mom is somewhat clueless and her kid is at least adept in using the Internet.

Her kid being 15, zoomer. So high chance of the kid already knows popular anime for "normies" like Hero Academia, Demon Slayer, One Punch Man and maybe Jujutsu Kaisen.

Older big shounen manga (One Piece, H x H and FmA) are okayish. But the autistic long running series is very daunting to get into, not to mention the art style back then is dated comparing to newer ones. HxH suffers with hiatus, which is not great. Especially if you'd like the kid to get into many series, I don't recommend the ones are still ongoing for ages. Anime maybe, manga is kinda a no from me. Only FmA is solid choice imo.

Unpopular opinion, I don't like Rurouni Kenshin. For some reasons, I feel the fictional fighting style, character strength and the theme along with settings are so conflicted to me, that I just outright dislike it. If it has used a different setting, a much less authentic setting then it maybe more acceptable to me.

Recommending more serious seinen stuffs are to be cautious, Blame, Black Lagoon, Vinland Saga, Vagabond, No Guns Life and Psycho Pass. Mostly more mature theme and maybe some slow pacing aren't that "interesting" for the kid age range. Psycho Pass aren't available in manga that much last time I check. Although I don't think Black Lagoon and Psycho Pass are that hard to get into for the kid age, as in good recommendation here.

Depends on how the mom is okay with her kid watching/reading gore, nudity stuffs and ecchi fanservice. At least what level is okay to the mom. Which are from some previous seinen stuffs, Akira, Tokyo Ghoul, Chainsaw Man, Spice & Wolf and Ranma 1/2. Probably Akira is good here, since it has the movie format.

As vern mentioned before, it's probably better to ask for more infos about her kid interest/preference or what they know.
Also, from me, recommending stuffs for parents and kids, it's good idea to consider parental guidance. I feel like people kinda neglecting this a bit much. Especially if parents kinda clueless about a medium, they can have misunderstand/wrong feeling about their kids.
 
CryptoHermit said:
A friend of my Mom's at her office has a kid who's around 15 and is "into those Japanese books right now" and then knowing I have a collection of them myself asked me to recommend her friend some series to get her son for Christmas. What do you guys think? I tried to go for stuff I actually read and liked. Here as follows:
Blame!
Demon Slayer
Mobile Suit Gundam The Origin
My Hero Academia
One Punch Man
Mob Psycho 100
Tokyo Ghoul
One Piece
Psycho Pass
Chainsaw Man
Black Lagoon
Fullmetal Alchemist
Hunter X Hunter
No Guns Life
DeathNote
Jujustu Kaisen
Natsume's Book Of Friends
Vinland Saga
Rurouni Kenshin
Vagabond
Akira
Ranma 1/2
Spice and Wolf

I just gave her a list of these and told her that some sites allow you to read them for free if she wants to look thru them first for anything she wouldn't like her son to have.
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You can't go wrong with Shounen stuff for teenagers, but they most likely already knew about the big titles like One Piece and Demon Slayer at this point.

I can't recommend titles like Blame, Akira, or Vagabond for 15 years old, those titles are too slow for them.

It all depends on what kind of genre he likes, is it fantasy? Scifi? Romance or SoL? Ecchi stuff? But your list already encompasses lots of genres, so I think it's fine

Also, you're giving this list to the parents, right? I don't think putting something like Black Lagoon there is a good idea

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If I may, can I suggest putting titles like Spy x Family, Tokyo Revenger, and Kaguya: Love is War as well? Those series are very popular for teenagers, and I think it will suit a teenage boy's interest
 
CryptoHermit said:
A friend of my Mom's at her office has a kid who's around 15 and is "into those Japanese books right now" and then knowing I have a collection of them myself asked me to recommend her friend some series to get her son for Christmas. What do you guys think? I tried to go for stuff I actually read and liked. Here as follows:
Blame!
Demon Slayer
Mobile Suit Gundam The Origin
My Hero Academia
One Punch Man
Mob Psycho 100
Tokyo Ghoul
One Piece
Psycho Pass
Chainsaw Man
Black Lagoon
Fullmetal Alchemist
Hunter X Hunter
No Guns Life
DeathNote
Jujustu Kaisen
Natsume's Book Of Friends
Vinland Saga
Rurouni Kenshin
Vagabond
Akira
Ranma 1/2
Spice and Wolf

I just gave her a list of these and told her that some sites allow you to read them for free if she wants to look thru them first for anything she wouldn't like her son to have.
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smh no Parasyte, man? A 15-year-old boy would totally be into that.
 
Commander X said:
Gundam understanders have logged on.

The worst of Ani-twitter has gone from "Char's Counterattack is bad and wrong because my husbando Aznable wouldn't commit genocide" to "CCA is great because Char commits genocide but for proper, woke reasons."
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as a Zeonfag I can understand siding with Char, what I don't get is why leftoids are siding with a space aryan that wanted to nuke the degenerate, kike-ridden earthsphere for -rightfully- being the shithole that it is. Maybe these people don't actually care about principles or reasoning and just want to kill everyone else, I mean it explains the amount of unrepentant criminals on that side of the politisperg spectrum.

Maybe we do need to bring back gladiatorial combat, I mean I'd pay both to watch these retards sign up to off themselves and to take potshots at them with a rifle.
 
Rezza said:
You can't go wrong with Shounen stuff for teenagers, but they most likely already knew about the big titles like One Piece and Demon Slayer at this point.

I can't recommend titles like Blame, Akira, or Vagabond for 15 years old, those titles are too slow for them.

It all depends on what kind of genre he likes, is it fantasy? Scifi? Romance or SoL? Ecchi stuff? But your list already encompasses lots of genres, so I think it's fine

Also, you're giving this list to the parents, right? I don't think putting something like Black Lagoon there is a good idea

Edit:
If I may, can I suggest putting titles like Spy x Family, Tokyo Revenger, and Kaguya: Love is War as well? Those series are very popular for teenagers, and I think it will suit a teenage boy's interest
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Yeah I gave the list to his mom but she hasn't minded violent stuff since he watches a ton of action movies; Predator, Commando, John Wick etc.. so I thought Black Lagoon would right up his alley. I didn't include any weird or out there stuff since I watched Bakemonogatari when I was his age lol. I gave her the list with where to buy them including a manga site she could read thru them for free herself if she wants to make doubly sure.
 
CryptoHermit said:
Yeah I gave the list to his mom but she hasn't minded violent stuff since he watches a ton of action movies; Predator, Commando, John Wick etc.. so I thought Black Lagoon would right up his alley. I didn't include any weird or out there stuff since I watched Bakemonogatari when I was his age lol. I gave her the list with where to buy them including a manga site she could read thru them for free herself if she wants to make doubly sure.
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Good call for not including Bakemonogatari there, that thing is not for everyone's consumption
 
CryptoHermit said:
Yeah I gave the list to his mom but she hasn't minded violent stuff since he watches a ton of action movies; Predator, Commando, John Wick etc.. so I thought Black Lagoon would right up his alley. I didn't include any weird or out there stuff since I watched Bakemonogatari when I was his age lol. I gave her the list with where to buy them including a manga site she could read thru them for free herself if she wants to make doubly sure.
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If she’s okay with the mild nudity that’s par for the course with seinen (e.g. uncensored tits but nothing overtly sexual) I’d recommend Hell’s Paradise and Dorohedoro. Both are relatively under the radar so unless the kid’s already in pretty deep he likely hasn’t read them yet.

Any of the hardcover Junji Ito books are good one-off gifts since they’re complete stories in one book. I got the Uzumaki hardcover for like $25 and it’s quality stuff.

I’d recommend the Jojo manga but the English volume releases are retardedly far behind for some reason despite the series becoming really popular the last 3-4 years.

If we want to stray into the slightly more questionable territory I’d recommend Gantz and Prison School (well… the first arc, anyways). Those are manga I’m pretty sure I would’ve enjoyed 10x as much if I’d read them when I was 15.
 
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Commander X said:
Gundam understanders have logged on.

The worst of Ani-twitter has gone from "Char's Counterattack is bad and wrong because my husbando Aznable wouldn't commit genocide" to "CCA is great because Char commits genocide but for proper, woke reasons."

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Can't believe I even went through the effort of skimming that long rambling mess with an entirely unnecessary pre-ramble on the 'context' of the western release of CCA. Literally before the discussion of CCA even starts they already said dumbshit like Grandpa gundam being red/white/blue for a political reason when it was literally to sell toys (hell the G3 is closest in concept to what Tomino actually wanted with it's dull greyish colors reflecting the more 'real robot war machine' feel he wanted).

I can't really say much about CCA besides what I've heard about it as I've yet to get around to watching it (ZZ still needs to be finished), but I can't really root for the guy threatening to genocide a bunch of innocent civilians they will be caught in the crosshairs and decimate the earth environmentally. It almost comes across as so extreme that Char was wanting Amuro to come and stop him or just wanted to drag Amuro out to fight him one last time.

Person is pretty much just treating people as numbers on a page full of causalities, if we're taking this serious in universe and not just fiction, as if none of that would matter as long as it accomplished their goal. You'd be talking about millions likely dead, if not more when factoring in the aftermath where those that did survive are likely to receive zero support and the complete breakdown globally from supply chain failings/environmental chaos (leading to massive famine and weather related deaths). You know who mostly dies from all that? Not the rich elites that can just flee up to space or underground bunkers, but the poor or average person, I doubt you'd actually entirely cripple the earth federation as long as there's someone to take over. All you've created is a mass of vengeance that will ignite a far more bloody OYW (itself sparked by a colony drop). How can you call yourself a leftist (or even a good person) when you callously sentence millions of innocents to death in pursuit of some unlikely outcome just because you want to cripple their leadership? You can't use that bullshit of "think about how many more the federations is going to kill if they stay in power!" as an excuse to commit genocide. All you're doing is adding to the cycle of violence and ensuring it'll continue for years to come. Or are you going to rule with an iron fist crushing any resistance to your glorious rule by those that just don't understand what's good for them?

If I was to point towards gundam series that I think give good leftist messages I'd say War in the pocket or Unicorn are both great stand-outs. Maybe I'm not extreme enough to be a real leftie, but Unicorn's depiction of:
- the generational destruction the conflict between Zeon and the EF had brought,
- cycles of violence,
- not letting oneself fall into these cycles,
- POSSIBILITY,
- Forgiveness
- environmental destruction from years of conflict,
- corporate corruption and its influence on politics,
- showing the humanity of both sides (more so zeon because japan loves zeon wank),
- the ability to refute any logical sounding argument with "EVEN SO.....POSSIBILTY!"
- giving the people the power to decide their own fate by giving them knowledge

are all much better lessons I think that bring up far better discussions than trying to morally defend a character attempting to genocide a large group of people and destroy the environment. You can argue that later UC works kind of reject a lot of what happened in Unicorn with it's focus on hope for a brighter future, breaking from repeating the past to try paving a new way, and similar messaging with a quick return to status quo (Feddie vs. nth Neo-Zeon splinter group) but I still rather love its hopeful positive tone. Need more Gundam like that and less Tomino depression fests.

When I wanted Gundam to get more of the recognition it deserves this isn't what I meant, please go back to being ignored by the west like almost every other mecha show gets to enjoy and I'll never complain about mecha being underrated again.
 
Gar For Archer said:
If she’s okay with the mild nudity that’s par for the course with seinen (e.g. uncensored tits but nothing overtly sexual) I’d recommend Hell’s Paradise and Dorohedoro. Both are relatively under the radar so unless the kid’s already in pretty deep he likely hasn’t read them yet.

Any of the hardcover Junji Ito books are good one-off gifts since they’re complete stories in one book. I got the Uzumaki hardcover for like $25 and it’s quality stuff.

I’d recommend the Jojo manga but the English volume releases are retardedly far behind for some reason despite the series becoming really popular the last 3-4 years.

If we want to stray into the slightly more questionable territory I’d recommend Gantz and Prison School (well… the first arc, anyways). Those are manga I’m pretty sure I would’ve enjoyed 10x as much if I’d read them when I was 15.
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Rezza said:
Good call for not including Bakemonogatari there, that thing is not for everyone's consumption
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Yeah, I though about Jojo but decided against it as it really starts off slow with part 1 until you get to Battle Tendency. (Sorry Part 1 chads). I might have actually thrown in Soul Eater as a nice and quick shounen or even Hajime No Ippo but the list was already pretty long. I'm very much a fan of Bakemonogatari myself but it's definitely a very acquired taste. I grew up watching oddball and weird movies including David Lynch where I had a arthouse film phase so Bakemonogatri and the later series was just my kind of show lol. I can imagine a normal teen being bored to tears by it tho heh so I left it out including the "strange" parts of the series as well. The snail arc is a massive filter for people usually.
 
Moguro Fukuzou said:
are all much better lessons I think that bring up far better discussions than trying to morally defend a character attempting to genocide a large group of people and destroy the environment. You can argue that later UC works kind of reject a lot of what happened in Unicorn with it's focus on hope for a brighter future, breaking from repeating the past to try paving a new way, and similar messaging with a quick return to status quo (Feddie vs. nth Neo-Zeon splinter group) but I still rather love its hopeful positive tone. Need more Gundam like that and less Tomino depression fests.

When I wanted Gundam to get more of the recognition it deserves this isn't what I meant, please go back to being ignored by the west like almost every other mecha show gets to enjoy and I'll never complain about mecha being underrated again.
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I think there's way too much Zeon wank in Unicorn (at least the ending and definitely the shitty spinoffs of it). It just makes no sense from an in-universe perspective and by the end the protagonist is annoyingly self-righteous, akin to Kira Yamato. I'll give it credit that's even if it ends in a mess, it reads like a very well-written fanfic by a Zeon fanboy.

And yeah, these weird tankies defending Char and Neo-Zeon are bizarre, especially when one of the crucial points of Gundam is that while the Federation sucks and is corrupt and borderline evil, the other side sucks even more. But I guess it's like how these people complain about the US/some Western country but defend Xi Jinping or whoever, just the even dumber fictional version where you can't argue the atrocities are fake. To me, UC Gundam is about the folly and stupidity of the human race on a species level and a personal level. There's no heroes and few villains, mostly different sorts of victims.
 
Thanks for reminding me I haven't watched Hathaway's Flash for a few months, btw. Now that Mushoten is done until the next season is ready to air, I don't have much else to watch.
 
Rezza said:
You can't go wrong with Shounen stuff for teenagers, but they most likely already knew about the big titles like One Piece and Demon Slayer at this point.

I can't recommend titles like Blame, Akira, or Vagabond for 15 years old, those titles are too slow for them.

It all depends on what kind of genre he likes, is it fantasy? Scifi? Romance or SoL? Ecchi stuff? But your list already encompasses lots of genres, so I think it's fine

Also, you're giving this list to the parents, right? I don't think putting something like Black Lagoon there is a good idea

Edit:
If I may, can I suggest putting titles like Spy x Family, Tokyo Revenger, and Kaguya: Love is War as well? Those series are very popular for teenagers, and I think it will suit a teenage boy's interest
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Tokyo revengers is a maybe because it started making stupid reasons to go back into the past. Imo deliquent series were at the best in the 80s-early 2000s

Save the Loli said:
I think there's way too much Zeon wank in Unicorn (at least the ending and definitely the shitty spinoffs of it). It just makes no sense from an in-universe perspective and by the end the protagonist is annoyingly self-righteous, akin to Kira Yamato. I'll give it credit that's even if it ends in a mess, it reads like a very well-written fanfic by a Zeon fanboy.

And yeah, these weird tankies defending Char and Neo-Zeon are bizarre, especially when one of the crucial points of Gundam is that while the Federation sucks and is corrupt and borderline evil, the other side sucks even more. But I guess it's like how these people complain about the US/some Western country but defend Xi Jinping or whoever, just the even dumber fictional version where you can't argue the atrocities are fake. To me, UC Gundam is about the folly and stupidity of the human race on a species level and a personal level. There's no heroes and few villains, mostly different sorts of victims.
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Sorry for double posting.

I think they made Zeon troops more human with Thunderbolt gundam and War in the pocket but i agree with the weird defense of Neo Zeon and Char. Char went crazy when losing lalah sune and it really shows during CCA. I can understand the sympathy for some Neo Zeon factions like the one in Unicorn that were in Earth but the rest just wanted to create another dictatorship
 
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Rezza said:
Good call for not including Bakemonogatari there, that thing is not for everyone's consumption
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Is that part of that extremely expensive bluray and dvd sets by Aniplex that nobody can actually afford? I recall Persona 5 similarly had a horrid price tag especially for such a mediocre adaptation.
 
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