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[Draza]

Anime to recommend to someone who isn't into anime?

Asking for a friend.

Jojo Bizarre Adventure

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Has anyone read the Darker than Black manga? I've heard it starts as a faithful adaption of the anime but eventually diverges, which is probably for the best. I really loved the start of the anime but it eventually fell apart towards the end of S1 and then seemed to get even worse with Gemini (which I don't even think I finished watching).

 

[DeadwastePrime]

Anime to recommend to someone who isn't into anime?

Asking for a friend.

black lagoon, bebop, samurai champloo

 

[Fougaro]

Anime to recommend to someone who isn't into anime?

Asking for a friend.

Baccano!, Black Lagoon, Cowboy Bebop, Desert Punk, Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Megalobox, Monster or Space Dandy. If he wants to read a manga I'd recommend Dorohedoro or Franken Fran. I'm sure your friend will like some of it. I recommended Black Lagoon to my normie best friend and he can't get enough of it.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I mean the issue with Fate is that it has a lot of writers of varying degrees of quality. Nasu is a generally a good writer as I consider Fate/Stay Night to be a really great visual novel (even if it has some flaws) but then you have subpar hacks of varying degrees of quality like Yūichirō Higashide (Fate/Apocrypha), Hazuki Minase (Writer for Prillya anime and a likely lolicon), Hikaru Sakurai (mediocre anime and wrote some Fate content notably the Septem and Shimosa arcs for Fate Grand Order).

While I think Butcher Gen did an overall good job with Fate/Zero, I feel like his Saber was kinda weak. Zero feels more like it's hammering "Nasuverse Mages are shitty people" hard. Because they are, with some exceptions. The side content is pretty rough, I did enjoy Emiya-san Chi no Kyou no Gohan.

 

[Fougaro]

I mean the issue with Fate is that it has a lot of writers of varying degrees of quality. Nasu is a generally a good writer as I consider Fate/Stay Night to be a really great visual novel (even if it has some flaws) but then you have subpar hacks of varying degrees of quality like Yūichirō Higashide (Fate/Apocrypha), Hazuki Minase (Writer for Prillya anime and a likely lolicon), Hikaru Sakurai (mediocre anime and wrote some Fate content notably the Septem and Shimosa arcs for Fate Grand Order).

Unless I have gone fully senile, I remember Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night to be nothing but terribly written self-insert fapfics created by a supreme gentleman who has never felt and will never feel a vagina IRL (at least not consensually). I would go as far and say that both these series were more or less the Sword Art Online of their time.

I noticed some dramatic differences in quality regarding some works set within the Nasuverse. Fate/Zero was terrible because Gen Urobuchi is a psychotic pedophile and an untalented hack (though he does seem to get his shit a bit together if Psycho Pass is anything to go by), while Fate/strange Fake was pretty good because it was done by Narita aka the guy who did Baccano! and Durarara!!. I didn't know there were more people involved as "guest writers" than these two now that you mention it.

Sometimes I think it's a bummer that we're not a Japanese speaking site, because Nasu and Urobuchi would be cultcows by now.

 

[Cabelaz]

Unless I have gone fully senile, I remember Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night to be nothing but terribly written self-insert fapfics created by a supreme gentleman who has never felt and will never feel a vagina IRL (at least not consensually). I would go as far and say that both these series were more or less the Sword Art Online of their time.

I noticed some dramatic differences in quality regarding some works set within the Nasuverse. Fate/Zero was terrible because Gen Urobuchi is a psychotic pedophile and an untalented hack (though he does seem to get his shit a bit together if Psycho Pass is anything to go by), while Fate/strange Fake was pretty good because it was done by Narita aka the guy who did Baccano! and Durarara!!. I didn't know there were more people involved as "guest writers" than these two now that you mention it.

Sometimes I think it's a bummer that we're not a Japanese speaking site, because Nasu and Urobuchi would be cultcows by now.

Yeah Fate suffers a lot from subpar writing and weird fetishes, though there are a few gems in there. Really enjoyed Archer as a character, and his backstory and themes were actually pretty mature and he was well developed.
The whole painting Mages as bad people from Zero was interesting too seeing as the Association will let you commit any number of atrocities as long as you dont get caught.
I'll never get over the saber in a wedding dress though.
That shit was so bad it's hilarious.

 

[Zaryiu]

What's the episode number in which the original Fullmetal Alchemist deviate from the manga and which in which episode does Brotherhood stops rushing through the stuff covered in 2003?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

What's the episode number in which the original Fullmetal Alchemist deviate from the manga and which in which episode does Brotherhood stops rushing through the stuff covered in 2003?

I think 2003 stops covering the manga at episode 25 and Brotherhood stops rushing things at episode 12 or 13

 

[Dunsparce]

What's the episode number in which the original Fullmetal Alchemist deviate from the manga and which in which episode does Brotherhood stops rushing through the stuff covered in 2003?

If you're trying to do what I think you're doing, it won't work, While Brotherhood shortened what the 2003 anime covered already(on top of making some changes soley to be different), the 2003 one did the opposite to not run out story material from the manga too soon (also often with many changes, mostly by adding completely original characters and plot points to tie into when things veer from the manga, on top of lots of general padding to make things last a lot longer).

Your best bet is to read the Manga if you want to see the first part of the story paced the way it was intended to with no added or removed events, since both anime adaptions change things around.

 

[Zaryiu]

If you're trying to do what I think you're doing, it won't work, While Brotherhood shortened what the 2003 anime covered already(on top of making some changes soley to be different), the 2003 one did the opposite to not run out story material from the manga too soon (also often with many changes, mostly by adding completely original characters and plot points to tie into when things veer from the manga, on top of lots of general padding to make things last a lot longer).

Your best bet is to read the Manga if you want to see the first part of the story paced the way it was intended to with no added or removed events, since both anime adaptions change things around.

Ah ok. another question but i'm confused with Danganronpa chronological order. I mean i know the order the games are chronologically but where do the mangas and light novels fit? Also is 2.5 it's own thing or tied to V3 By the way i don't see V3 as canon because it ends up being as the game makers throwing a shit fit about wanting to stop the franchise and guilting /talking down to those who liked the franchise)

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Sailor Moon has an episode dedicated to dunking on fatties. Luna in particular is completely savage in it.

Spoiler: Luna's bantz

We also learn that Motoki is a chubby chaser while Tuxedo Mask is strictly a 'no fatties allowed' type guy.

 

[jspit]

I see.

Problem is it's one thing to be dark, but something else when your writing isn't just bad but outright irredeemable. Nasu's writing isn't just terrible it's pure trisomy 21 if the backstories of Mordred or Jack the Ripper weren't a hint, not to mention the abomination that is Fate/Zero. Nasu himself, or the fans might say how this is allegedly deeper than you think, but the reality is it's just Nasu writing embarrassingly terrible fap stories about his waifu, his degenerate fetishes and in some cases even pedophilia. Minus the letter, it's a similar situation with Druckmann whose terribly written fetish game is hailed as something deep and dark.

Not only does the comparison with Neil Cuckmann stand, Nasu manages to be even worse.

Credit where credit is due however, I do enjoy the memes that came out of this godforsaken franchise, especially the Astolfo ones. And Gilgamesh is the only good character.

We disagree about Nasu. If I wrote everything I found skeevy off, that's 90% of Japan....

Can I reccomend Noir? It is my favorite anime despite being a bit slow. Its dated but the dub is solid as is the sub. Shelley Calene-Black's performance as Mireille is one of the most underrated performances in anime (since you saw Canaan this is a treat) as is Hillary Haag as Chloe.
One of her other fantastic performances is Hamyuts Meseta from The Book of Bantorra, a sadly overlooked series.

Now I'm interested, definitely checking that out after I finish catching up on Fire Force S1.

Dont know if this has been posted here, but Trigger is making a Cyberpunk 2077 anime.
The director of Promare and Kill la Kill is doing it so it might be kinda good

I heard, Considering kill la Kill is the only Trigger show that was good start to end maybe it will be. I'm more excited for ReZero season two.

I mean the issue with Fate is that it has a lot of writers of varying degrees of quality. Nasu is a generally a good writer as I consider Fate/Stay Night to be a really great visual novel (even if it has some flaws) but then you have subpar hacks of varying degrees of quality like Yūichirō Higashide (Fate/Apocrypha), Hazuki Minase (Writer for Prillya anime and a likely lolicon), Hikaru Sakurai (mediocre anime and wrote some Fate content notably the Septem and Shimosa arcs for Fate Grand Order).

Another FGO fan! did you finish Götterdämmerung yet?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Ah ok. another question but i'm confused with Danganronpa chronological order. I mean i know the order the games are chronologically but where do the mangas and light novels fit? Also is 2.5 it's own thing or tied to V3 By the way i don't see V3 as canon because it ends up being as the game makers throwing a shit fit about wanting to stop the franchise and guilting /talking down to those who liked the franchise)

Well for the side materials this is where it goes.

2.5 is just connected to Danganronpa 3

DR: IF is written by Narita and is an alternate take if a certain character survived instead of died in the first game.

DR: Zero is a prequel that takes place before the games and is meant to be read after DR1.

DR: Kirigiri is also a prequel but it isn't fully translated and DR: Togami is just bad. DR: Hagakure takes place after DR1 and you can get it by finishing Ultra Despair Girls or finding a copy online.

Killer Killer takes place before DR3 and it's a mess.

Another FGO fan! did you finish Götterdämmerung yet?

Pretty much yeah.

 

[Vapewizard]

I'm kinda late to the Nasuverse talk cause I took a short break from most areas of the farms but I'll put in my 2 cents. As someone who started with reading the Tsukihime let's play on SA and then played the original Fate/stay night 18+ VN with voices patched in and went from there, these days I find myself liking The Lord el melloi II case files the most out of all fate side material. I've grown pretty tired of the bombastic servant battles and world ending threats from the mobile game so it's a nice change of pace to just read about a depressed college professor with homolust and his entourage of students solving magical crimes and unravelling conspiracies born from mage politics. Of course it helped that I already liked Waver and Iskander in Fate/zero and my favourite event in the mobile game ended up being the zero crossover event too. I'm definitely looking forward to the Case files mobile game collab coming to NA, though specifically for the story and not the latest batch of waifu bait pseudoservants.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Just finished the last episode of Kaguya-Sama and I don't think I've been this disappointed in where and how an anime season ended in a long time.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

Finished attack on Titan season 1. I keep getting conflicting reports over whether AOT gets even better or gets worse

 

[Draza]

Finished attack on Titan season 1. I keep getting conflicting reports over whether AOT gets even better or gets worse

Gets better in the next season. Season 2 is the best one imo.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Finished attack on Titan season 1. I keep getting conflicting reports over whether AOT gets even better or gets worse

The controversy over the story doesn’t start until after the stuff covered by the anime so far. The three existing seasons have all been fairly well received, so really it’s your call to decide if you want to get invested in a show that’s currently pretty good but may or may not have a complete disaster of an ending.

 

[jspit]

Finished attack on Titan season 1. I keep getting conflicting reports over whether AOT gets even better or gets worse

Gets better in the next season. Season 2 is the best one imo.

He's right, it peaks at the current season with a twist that In my opinion ruins things.

The controversy over the story doesn’t start until after the stuff covered by the anime so far. The three existing seasons have all been fairly well received, so really it’s your call to decide if you want to get invested in a show that’s currently pretty good but may or may not have a complete disaster of an ending.

Or worse, they pull a Tokyo Ghoul.