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Cactus Wings said:
I know anime only exists to sell manga but Neverland just ruined anime for me. It was the last anime I've watched and I'm now on my 30th manga or something. It took a few chapters and maybe 45 mins of reading to get out of the home in which the entirety of season 1 played out in. Anime is more about visuals than storytelling at this point. I can get behind K-on and feel-good kind of anime, but those are usually slice of life and have nowhere to go but daily child antics. Same shit with Made in Abyss. They're making an OVA out of a few chapters 1/3 through the manga. It's hard to get excited for anime anymore if not slice of life or a full original movie.

Yowamushi Pedal was my first anime and what got me into cycling most likely, and even such a slow series basically made for the generic shonen anime format, it still serves way better as a manga. It has a spin-off series telling short 2-3 chapter arcs to flesh out old side characters etc, which is faster to read through than an episode is to watch. On an unrelated note, it's actually on netflix now, which is pretty impressive considering how little attention the anime gets. 2-3 OVAs, 5-6 seasons, a real-life series, and a few promotion tie-ins with a cycling stadium they use in the show.

But oh no, abusive lesbo anime #28 gets all the adoring fans. :(
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Anime exists to sell merchandise, afaik. Mangas too, but anime-studios earn more in merch than in selling it to a broadcasting system, iirc.
But yeah, the problem with anime has been the same in the past 15 or even 20 years:

People just shit out generic crap that does not take any risks. Moe-blob and shonen sells, so we get that. And no one dares experiment (only a few do from time to time), so there's a shitton of anime and manga about the same topics, featuring the same tropes with the same stereotype characters . . .
That's why I love stuff like Dagashi Kashi or Dungeon Meshi.

Someone, I think it was Miyazaki, said a couple years ago that Anime is still struggling to overcome NGE. Sure, there have been shows that sold more stuff, had more viewers and so on, but in terms of raw influence on the entire medium, we've not seen anything of its kind. Whether you hate Eva or love it, you can't disagree with the statement that it changed a lot for anime on an international level when it came out.
 
Cactus Wings said:
Yowamushi Pedal was my first anime and what got me into cycling most likely, and even such a slow series basically made for the generic shonen anime format, it still serves way better as a manga. It has a spin-off series telling short 2-3 chapter arcs to flesh out old side characters etc, which is faster to read through than an episode is to watch. On an unrelated note, it's actually on netflix now, which is pretty impressive considering how little attention the anime gets. 2-3 OVAs, 5-6 seasons, a real-life series, and a few promotion tie-ins with a cycling stadium they use in the show.
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I haven't read the manga yet, but I fucking love Yowamushi Pedal, I watched it on a whim because it was under "sports", and I was surprised at how much I loved it. It sucks that Haikyuu got the attention but not Yowamushi Pedal when it's got better drama and action, and characters. But it's better for all the yaoi fangirls to navigate to volleyball uwu bois than cycling boys.

But good to hear it's now on Netflix. It deserves it, but the OPs and EDs should never-ever-ever be skipped. That's the only downside to Netflix.

But oh no, abusive lesbo anime #28 gets all the adoring fans. :(
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Good to know I'm not the only one who's noticed this. "Pure love" my ass.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
Anime exists to sell merchandise, afaik. Mangas too, but anime-studios earn more in merch than in selling it to a broadcasting system, iirc.
But yeah, the problem with anime has been the same in the past 15 or even 20 years:

People just shit out generic crap that does not take any risks. Moe-blob and shonen sells, so we get that. And no one dares experiment (only a few do from time to time), so there's a shitton of anime and manga about the same topics, featuring the same tropes with the same stereotype characters . . .
That's why I love stuff like Dagashi Kashi or Dungeon Meshi.

Someone, I think it was Miyazaki, said a couple years ago that Anime is still struggling to overcome NGE. Sure, there have been shows that sold more stuff, had more viewers and so on, but in terms of raw influence on the entire medium, we've not seen anything of its kind. Whether you hate Eva or love it, you can't disagree with the statement that it changed a lot for anime on an international level when it came out.
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Boy if I had a penny everytime I hear a statement like the two above but doesn't mean I completely disagree. The only reason they reuse the same tropes because it sells whats the point of making or greenlighting experimental anime and manga when you can just reuse tired ideas and tropes that bring instant money samething with other media like movies just case of companies trying to be risk adverse as possible. I doubt its going to stop anytime soon unless some form boycott happen in Japan or more people start surporting experimental stuff. Then again I not the kind of person that just look at the latest stuff coming out.
 
Agent Wet said:
The only reason they reuse the same tropes because it sells whats the point of making or greenlighting experimental anime and manga when you can just reuse tired ideas and tropes that bring instant money samething with other media like movies just case of companies trying to be risk adverse as possible.
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Congratulations, you found the exact problem that I stated. Companies take no risks, shit out uninspired moe-blob crap and it takes forever for something halfway original or new to make its way into TV.
There's only so much "slice of life with the exact same 4 stereotypes" or "Show about ecchi teasing and clichée'd humor" that one can watch if you ask me.

Agent Wet said:
I doubt its going to stop anytime soon unless some form boycott happen in Japan or more people start surporting experimental stuff. Then again I not the kind of person that just look at the latest stuff coming out.
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It's not going to stop. A large number of hardcore fanboys are really limited in their tastes, which limits the shows to the lowest common denominator.
 
So I’m assuming the new season of Aggretsuko has her dating a lot, because there’s a lot of stuff going across Twitter.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
Someone, I think it was Miyazaki, said a couple years ago that Anime is still struggling to overcome NGE. Sure, there have been shows that sold more stuff, had more viewers and so on, but in terms of raw influence on the entire medium, we've not seen anything of its kind. Whether you hate Eva or love it, you can't disagree with the statement that it changed a lot for anime on an international level when it came out.
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Can you imagine the kind of anime we would have gotten in an alternate timeline where Neon Genesis Evangelion flopped and Martian Successor Nadesico took its place instead?
 
Fougaro said:
Can you imagine the kind of anime we would have gotten in an alternate timeline where Neon Genesis Evangelion flopped and Martian Successor Nadesico took its place instead?
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Certainly wouldn't have pushed itself too hard in the long run.
 
Watched the first episdoe of Eva to hear the new acting.

The original dub wasn't the best, but Alison Keith was great and the new lady playing Misato is kind of flat (and I swear at times has an asia accent). Shinji's scream is an improvement and Rei has a bit more life behind her.

Jumped to End of Eva. Kind of miss the "I'm so fucked up" line, but at least the comical sound effects Amanda Winn Lee added are gone.

I haven't heard enough yet but overall the initial impression I get is everyone sounds bored.

Also I'm guessing it's licencing but Fly Me to the Moon is gone.

Edit: found a cast listing via Polygon.

Key roles are now voiced by Casey Mongillo (Shinji), Stephanie McKeon (Asuka), Ryan Bartley (Rei), and Keranen (Misato).
 
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