American Universities - raising the next generation of lolcows

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This thread seems like its full of people who didn't go to college, are piss poor because of it, and are projecting their insecurities and jealously onto this rather bold claim.

I mean, you can still have a fulfilling career without going to college but the truth is that these days, its getting less and less possible. Plus America is home to thousands of universities. Yes a lot of them drink the Tumblr koolaid but I highly doubt that ALL U.S colleges are SJW hellholes. Plus a few wacky professors in the sociology department don't represent an entire school.
 
1. Physics is a lot of math and not everyone has the capacity or desire for STEM anyway. Having to learn in another language if they emigrated would make the learning process even more difficult. There is a such thing as "failing out" of uni.

2. Philosophy is boring af. Don't tell me what to read or care about.
seems that your problem is that you are a bit dumb
 
This thread seems like its full of people who didn't go to college, are piss poor because of it, and are projecting their insecurities and jealously onto this rather bold claim.

I mean, you can still have a fulfilling career without going to college but the truth is that these days, its getting less and less possible. Plus America is home to thousands of universities. Yes a lot of them drink the Tumblr koolaid but I highly doubt that ALL U.S colleges are SJW hellholes. Plus a few wacky professors in the sociology department don't represent an entire school.

I work in the university system, and it doesn't work out well for a lot of students. Not all colleges are SJW hellholes, but a good percentage of them are after your dollar and not offering much of anything concrete in return.
 
I bet a $60k a year degree in feminism and a few violent protests can fix that. Sign me up, bb.
I was going to mention there were actually more options than a degree in feminism but if you can't handle maths, science or critical thinking then yeah, it seems like thats all you can handle.

This thread seems like its full of people who didn't go to college, are piss poor because of it, and are projecting their insecurities and jealously onto this rather bold claim.

I mean, you can still have a fulfilling career without going to college but the truth is that these days, its getting less and less possible. Plus America is home to thousands of universities. Yes a lot of them drink the Tumblr koolaid but I highly doubt that ALL U.S colleges are SJW hellholes. Plus a few wacky professors in the sociology department don't represent an entire school.
No they're all bad I checked
 
a 500$ cables and couple electronic chips package is hardly "expensive equipment"

ANd talent. Omg who should see the kind of loser that can graduate, maybe not in 4 years but over 5 years anyone can do it.

I'm not really talking about basic stuff here. If you want to be a chemical engineer, go into the pharmaceutical industry, petroleum industry, do any sort of research, go into government or investigative work, you need a degree. Simply for access to equipment (A lot of places will not sell to anything other than companies or academic institutions), learn how to use it properly and how to think critically in a field. Not to mention a degree is basically a multi-million dollar institution confirming you are at least somewhat competent in your field and you can navigate through the basics. Google isn't a replacement for someone who can guide you through hurdles, help you write grants, know what companies are looking for and networking influence through alumni and private sponsors. A degree is more than just learning something, its having access to a network of resources of a million or billion dollar institution.

Not to mention most people don't have the self-discipline or can structure this sort of thing for themselves. Or would even know how to do it. If you can, more power to you. But I really wouldn't recommend it unless you had the confidence, determination and know what you are doing. Its just getting extraordinarily competitive for people without degrees or trade experience. A degree isn't a comment on your self worth, there's no shame in not having one. Its all about keeping yourself as competitive as possible. I wish it weren't the case and in many jobs a degree is simply not necessary or even irrelevant. I've known seniors with 20+ years of experience in fields who are getting turned away from jobs because they don't have a meaningless piece of paper that wasn't important 30 years ago but now magically is because of saturation. "Your experience looks good, but you don't have x degree..." Its pure nonsense.

The University as an institution was never meant to be like this, but its just a consequence of the modern world and the belief that having a degree is necessary for secure employment or proves anything at all. I've also seen a lot of the dangerous 'If I went through this shit, you have to too' from employers and people in administrative positions.

That trade school option looks good.

Trade schools are a good option, but you still need to do the same research you would do for colleges. There's really no more 'get trade = get job'. You can also fuck yourself over if you get trained in a trade that is saturated in your area. But yes, its a good alternative for people who don't like or want college.
 
ibm, microsoft and the like now hire people without degrees when they have good credentials. My project manager have been an engineer all his life without a degree. And come on chemical engineers don't write grants.

Deep learning state of the art can be develop on a 300$ gpu.

There's a lot of things that are not necessarily true in that. A lot of STEM labs do not have anything special.
 
This thread seems like its full of people who didn't go to college, are piss poor because of it, and are projecting their insecurities and jealously onto this rather bold claim.

Intriguing. I legitimately and honestly thought the opposite- that Kiwi Farms (and consequently the thread) was full of angry people who were mad that their basket weaving degrees amounted to nothing. This isn't really to be provocative, but I think it's a relevant insight into how divisive this topic has become in the "knowledge economy."
 
Trade schools are a good option, but you still need to do the same research you would do for colleges. There's really no more 'get trade = get job'. You can also fuck yourself over if you get trained in a trade that is saturated in your area. But yes, its a good alternative for people who don't like or want college.
There are trades that cost around the 5 digits. Still, it's always a good idea to think critically about jobs. Something the trust-fund spoiled college student doesn't have.
 
ibm, microsoft and the like now hire people without degrees when they have good credentials. My project manager have been an engineer all his life without a degree. And come on chemical engineers don't write grants.

Deep learning state of the art can be develop on a 300$ gpu.

There's a lot of things that are not necessarily true in that. A lot of STEM labs do not have anything special.

That's all well and good, but I'm just talking about people who can't do that and making yourself as competitive as possible. A degree does that. It is a lot harder to go without one now than years ago. Most people don't have the years to back up not having a degree. You are also talking about a risk if someone doesn't have the capability to judge themselves rightly on their own talents. Self-learning is inherently difficult to do and High School sure as shit doesn't teach you that. STEM equipment might not be anything special, but it costs a shitload of money and time to use. The amount you spend making your own science lab to have any sort of modern career you may as well just go to a state university and learn STEM. It'd be way cheaper.

But yeah, tech is probably one area where you don't need one. But you still need the self discipline to do it. And like I said, I don't care if you don't have a degree. My statements aren't coming out of a place of arrogance or anything (I do regret my debt and wish I had been smarter, but sometimes nobody tells you these things, you just have to learn them the hard way) and the last thing I want people to do is chain themselves to debt.

If you can get a job in tech without one easily, then fine. But in my experience I've seen it far more difficult for people without degrees.

There are trades that cost around the 5 digits. Still, it's always a good idea to think critically about jobs. Something the trust-fund spoiled college student doesn't have.

Yup, it really is. It sucks it isn't offered more or talked about. University is the end all, be all.

Too bad lolcow studies aren't a thing

*sigh*

I'm sure there's some college out there with a meme studies program.
 
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