American Universities - raising the next generation of lolcows

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TheMightyMonarch said:
This thread seems like its full of people who didn't go to college, are piss poor because of it, and are projecting their insecurities and jealously onto this rather bold claim.

I mean, you can still have a fulfilling career without going to college but the truth is that these days, its getting less and less possible. Plus America is home to thousands of universities. Yes a lot of them drink the Tumblr koolaid but I highly doubt that ALL U.S colleges are SJW hellholes. Plus a few wacky professors in the sociology department don't represent an entire school.
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You took the words out of my mouth. I've been keeping an eye on this thread from the outset and was internally debating saying something but felt it probably wouldn't be productive since the prevailing consensus/circlejerk was what it was initially...but since you said this, fuck it, thanks for providing me the impetus to chime in.

The generalization of citing the most prominent examples of useless degrees, SJW students and professors, etc, and extrapolating that the entire higher education system is worse than useless is, to put it politely, intellectually lazy. It is obvious that several people who have posted in this thread are still high school students (or perhaps even younger), or otherwise have never set foot on a campus and all exposure they have to post-secondary education is through watching "SJWs owned" videos (before anyone attempts to "disprove" this by citing their own experience, I'll just draw attention to the fact that I wrote "several," not "all").

Practically, although educational inflation is a very real thing devaluing degrees, it also adversely impacts the prospects for people with less formal education (to a greater extent actually, since if plenty of people have bachelor's degrees it makes it even easier to use as a minimum requirement and still get a huge pool of qualified candidates for jobs). More higher education is still correlated to higher incomes and lower unemployment rates. You can cite specific examples of ways people can be successful without post-secondary education obviously, but the general rule goes against that. This is even putting aside the obvious fact that many professional jobs require university education.

Universities also allow you to network. I am now friends with doctors, lawyers, elected officials, political staffers, journalists, engineers--a collection of people with diverse skills and connections who are useful to know--that I met at university through campus organizations. I would have had to put in a hell of a lot more work to make the same kind of connections outside of school. I also got references from well-established and well-respected professionals in their field who I studied under, who helped me to land my first jobs after graduating.

Of course degrees in Beyonce studies are laughable and campus SJWs are a bunch of dipshits who have never had real jobs in their life and don't know what they are talking about. Recognizing this doesn't make you brilliant. Extrapolating it to dismiss all post-secondary education is exceptional.

Is the culture on campus generally naively left-wing and PC? Sure. But instead of jerking off on the Internet and (in the case of some of you) patting yourselves on the back for not going to college, you could always participate and challenge that. Debate people in classrooms. Volunteer for student newspapers and write articles that go against that grain. Join student organizations that enable you to advocate for your belief systems. I know it isn't impossible to espouse views that go against the prevailing thought consensus because I did it (I'll concede I had some shitty instructors that did not appreciate this, but I fought my corner and ended up alright). It's easy and useless to go "universities are SJW indoctrination centers, herp derp." It's hard but worthwhile to actually try to meaningfully change that for the better.

P.S. - I should issue the obvious disclaimer that different people have different career ambitions and that going to university will be useful and worthwhile for some people and not others. I am not intending to talk down to anyone for being successful and entrepreneurial in their own way that did not require them to obtain post-secondary education. My point is directed at those dismissing universities entirely and unequivocally.

P.P.S - I can honestly say I didn't expect to find myself defending universities as I do share the contempt for SJWs, safe spaces, speech codes, and general campus culture. But this doesn't mean that people should be proud they didn't go to university or that university provides no benefits.
 
i dont think anyone here have enough info on who is going to college or not. Nothing here is personal.
 
CricketVonChirp said:
lol For realz. It was written as a thread on the radical or extremist groups on campuses in Community Watch.
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Pretty much all of the responses went in a somewhat different direction though. Probably because of the thread title.
 
who does that though. Most of the time i dont read the last comments either, just the title.
 
CricketVonChirp said:
Lol Probably should have read the OP before responding.
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You did the same shit though. Most of your posts (excluding the OP) in this thread are about post-secondary education generally and have little, if anything, to do with "radicals" or "extremists."
 
I think this thread has suffered from some people taking it very seriously and others completely disregarding the topic. I am guilty of this.

For instance, I actually did attend university. Just to give you an idea of how a lot of people are portraying positions they find amusing rather than earnestly discussing.

In truth, I think the value of a college education is overrated and that its worth is going to rapidly decrease in the near future rather than continue to increase, unless its made mandatory by law and just becomes an obligatory, free, tertiary system. That said, I recognize that certain careers, lifestyle goals, etc. do require a college education in all but the best of circumstances.
 
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Cato said:
You did the same shit though. Most of your posts (excluding the OP) in this thread are about post-secondary education generally and have little, if anything, to do with "radicals" or "extremists."
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anyone that goes to college is an extremist terrorist that needs to be dealt with though
 
FFS I'm an electrical engineer. Pretty much everything can be simulated. It's not the same as having the real equipment in front of you but what actually matters is interfacing with the interface and analyzing results, both of which do not need to be connected to the real thing to work with.
 
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