Culture 3D-printable downloadable guns available August 1 - Eat that shit gun control spergs

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Americans will soon be able to make 3D-printed guns from their home, widening the door to do-it-yourself versions of firearms including the AR-15 — the gun of choice in American mass shootings — that are untraceable with no background check required.

A settlement earlier this year between the State Department and Texas-based Defense Distributed will let the nonprofit release blueprints for guns online starting Aug. 1, a development hailed by the group as the death of gun control in the United States.

"The age of the downloadable gun begins," Defense Distributed stated on its site. Its founder, Cody Wilson, tweeted a photograph of a grave marked "American gun control."

The plans freely available next month put firearms clicks away from anyone with the right machine and materials. That reality has startled gun control advocates, who say it makes untraceable firearms all the more available.

For Wilson, August marks the end of a years-long legal battle: He designed a 3D-printable plastic pistol, the "Liberator .380," in 2012 and put the plans online. It was downloaded more than 100,000 times before federal officials blocked his site, citing international export law.

A lawsuit from Wilson followed. The State Department settled in June.

The Second Amendment Foundation, a nonprofit that partnered with Wilson in the lawsuit, put out a statement calling the settlement "a devastating blow to the gun prohibition lobby."

Assembling guns at home isn't new. It can be done legally, too, provided the made-at-home gun isn't sold. Defense Distributed already sells parts that let users build their own untraceable firearms, known as "ghost guns" for their lack of serial numbers.

"Legally manufacture unserialized rifles and pistols in the comfort and privacy of home," one product's description states.

David Chipman, who worked 25 years as an agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told Vice News that the homemade guns favored by hobbyists have since become popular with criminals.

“Now, criminals have started using ghost guns as a way to circumvent assault weapon regulations," said Chipman, now an adviser to the gun control advocacy group Giffords. "I imagine that people will also start printing guns to get around laws.”

Gun plans previewed on Defense Distributed's website feature the Liberator pistol along with an AR-15 and a VZ-58, a Czechoslovakian assault rifle.

The printers needed to make the guns can cost from $5,000 to $600,000, according to Vice News. The quality of plastic matters, too: An early design printed by federal agents shattered after one shot. A second gun, made from a higher grade resin, stayed intact.


William Bones, the chief of police in Boise, Idaho, told the Idaho Statesmanthat law enforcement agencies have followed developments in 3D-printed guns for "quite a while now."

“Measures are needed to ensure these weapons are safely built and to prevent access by children or those prohibited from owning a firearm," Bones told the newspaper.

"Hopefully we see some safe and responsible legislation soon as well as manufacturers taking measure to prevent access which might lead to tragedy.”
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You know, "gun debate" aside, and at the risk of sounding like a gun control freak, I feel like some sort of filter should be applied to this whole plastic gun thing. It's not about the technology or the politics of something like 3d printing, but rather, the fact that ease of access is not for everyone. Having it this easy for kids to have access to guns is something I believe we all can agree on.

A system to limit potentially dangerous buyers and minors should be set in place, in my honest opinion. Like i said, I don't have an issue with people printing/owning guns, but rather, with the fact that it makes it easier for minors and criminals to own a gun (Even if it is only good for a few shots before it breaks). It is easier for a kid to trick their technologically impaired guardian to print them a "fun looking gun" from the internet than it is for a store owner to run a background check on a potential customer, know what I mean.

So should we regulate copper tubing too? Metal pipes? Nails? Tacks? Springs? Elastic?
 
You know, "gun debate" aside, and at the risk of sounding like a gun control freak...
how is this a question for government to solve that cannot be solved by informed parents that own a 3d printer, who have children with unregulated access to information, who also have those same children with violence, perhaps homicidal impulses? how are these children kept from commandeering a vehicle and using it to run over people?

in world do you live in that the free and easy access to baseball bats, knives, utility razors (box cutters), cleaning solutions (ammonia, bleach) is less of an issue than a $1000+ 3d printer that uses plastic to be a single shot .22LR pistol that also requires setup, maintenance, supplies, and the actual CAD files?

it boils down to barrier of entry and the responsibility of the owner to control a dangerous product: parents should be responsible for and control their children, ensuring a healthy lifestyle that would result in children that aren't seeking to injure/maim/kill others. most parents put efforts to raising such children with varying degrees of success.

with more guns than people in the US (per capita), the rate per capita of gun violence is nonexistent. with the amount of dangerous items (including guns) that are available to a child to use unsupervised, the rate of child murder (perpetrated by and perpetrated against) is also minimal to nonexistent, and overwhelming committed by adults against children.

with responsible parenting, handing an actual gun to a child is easy and commonplace (and in fact, many people grew up in armed households and most gun owners had their experiences with firearms at an early age). most gun control proponents lack any kind of experience, or that experience happened much later in life.

if your question is about gun safety, then introducing them in the same way you introduce power tools to a child - to remove the mystery about them - is a prime way to teach safe gun handling, and gun responsibility.
 
You know, "gun debate" aside, and at the risk of sounding like a gun control freak, I feel like some sort of filter should be applied to this whole plastic gun thing. It's not about the technology or the politics of something like 3d printing, but rather, the fact that ease of access is not for everyone. Having it this easy for kids to have access to guns is something I believe we all can agree on.

A system to limit potentially dangerous buyers and minors should be set in place, in my honest opinion. Like i said, I don't have an issue with people printing/owning guns, but rather, with the fact that it makes it easier for minors and criminals to own a gun (Even if it is only good for a few shots before it breaks). It is easier for a kid to trick their technologically impaired guardian to print them a "fun looking gun" from the internet than it is for a store owner to run a background check on a potential customer, know what I mean.

Except that can't really happen, you need not only a pretty good quality printer like better than the crappy ones that print stupid nik-naks and shit, then you need a good 40 hours work to put it together and safety check, (look for stress points and shit) then most importantly you need AMMO which isn't easy for a kid to get ahold of unless they live in a gun friendly area/gun heavy family.

And as for criminals, what hood rat degenerate has the money for a decent printer and even if they did why would they go through the effort when they can easily get a 38. Revolver or a 45. cheeper than a damn pair of shoes, and any criminal with more money is either a high ranking mob member/cartel member or a white collar criminal with no need for weapons, the sweet spot of usefulness for these 3D printed guns is almost non-existent.

As said in my above post you can make a gun out if news paper and a nail or from semi personal experience a nice shotgun from a salavaged bike and some light tools, my buddy didn't even need full scale welding equipment, hell I could get a full auto machine pistol for 350 tomorrow if I went to a black market dealer that hocks wares to any SOB who pays cash in a trailer park near by or I could go to a cop who deals weapons or I could hit up a guy who sells straight from the military base he works at since the army isn't going to miss some 20 year old surplus rifles.

Believe me dude this 3D printed gun thing isnt even going to be a drop in the bucket and is the least of your worries when it comes to access to firearms.
 
All this talk about building your own guns is making me look at parts kits and do some legal eagle home build projects. It's like the more the media tries to scare people about this, they turn more people on to it. Reminds me of that stupid Rape Lay story they did. It would have never been so well known if it wasn't for them.

>AR-15

Of course they'd reference it.
What's funny is my mom didn't know what an AR15 is but seemed to have a hate boner for semi-auto. Last time the family was together I explained to them that the bumpfire stocks are not necessary to bumpfire a gun, just makes it a little easier.

These fucking people... Ok so power level story, duringthe 80s and 90s an uncle of mine worked in a auto repair shop and made a side job of creating guns pretty much exclusivily for crime out of scrap metal, he was so prevalent apparently his work is still being found in my local area, he made 90% profit on those pieces of shit, and he was not a smart man by any means.

The average garage is far more dangerous gun construction wise than a expensive fragile 3D printer that are uncommon enough to be tracked, seriously you can make a decent shotgun out of nothing but bike parts in around 12 hours if you want to skip over the QoL parts like ergonomics.
My buddy is a mechanic and when I showed him schematics for the STEN and a few books that show you how to build your own submachine guns (for academic purposes only! Just like it says on the cover) he was like "Shit, if I wanted to break the law real badly by making those they wouldn't be that hard. The whole thing could probably be churned out really quick in my shop if I had a hankering to go to federal pound me in the ass prison."

I think it's the mindset.

These journalists and anti-gun hipsters have never touched a powertool before. They've lived around Keurigs and Juiceros their entire lives. They're about as handy as a hermit crab with brain damage. They don't know what a home-made anything is, they assume all guns are manufactured in specialized facilities just like their iPhones are, and now that these fancy 3D printers exist, appliances that print things with a touch of a button, they're concerned. They have no knowledge or concept of home-made things or black markets. To them, the industry just made a giant, impossible leap from official, licensed guns to guns that can be shit out by a Keurig.

This is due to marketing. Guns are marketed, 3D printers are marketed, illegal guns aren't. It's the same reason they think the media player industry went from the Walkman to iPods overnight, nobody remembers the marketing for every piece of technology in-between those two products. They can only see commercials, it's their entire existence.
Hell I had a buddy who literally thought every solution to repairs was just buy a new one. He was about to get rid of a belt because he lost weight and I showed him how to punch a hole in the belt that would be lined up with the others. Literally used a buck knife. He stared at it like I performed some magic. He also thought you couldn't change your own oil because you need a lift like they have at the Jiffy Lube (well it's technically a recessed floor hole thingy but whatever) and also didn't know that O'Reilly's will take used motor oil free of charge.

It's amazing how little people are shown to do just basic DIY shit.
 
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All this talk about building your own guns is making me look at parts kits and do some legal eagle home build projects. It's like the more the media tries to scare people about this, they turn more people on to it. Reminds me of that stupid Rape Lay story they did. It would have never been so well known if it wasn't for them.


What's funny is my mom didn't know what an AR15 is but seemed to have a hate boner for semi-auto. Last time the family was together I explained to them that the bumpfire stocks are not necessary to bumpfire a gun, just makes it a little easier.


My buddy is a mechanic and when I showed him schematics for the STEN and a few books that show you how to build your own submachine guns (for academic purposes only! Just like it says on the cover) he was like "Shit, if I wanted to break the law real badly by making those they wouldn't be that hard. The whole thing could probably be churned out really quick in my shop if I had a hankering to go to federal pound me in the ass prison."


Hell I had a buddy who literally thought every solution to repairs was just buy a new one. He was about to get rid of a belt because he lost weight and I showed him how to punch a hole in the belt that would be lined up with the others. Literally used a buck knife. He stared at it like I performed some magic. He also thought you couldn't change your own oil because you need a lift like they have at the Jiffy Lube (well it's technically a recessed floor hole thingy but whatever) and also didn't know that O'Reilly's will take used motor oil free of charge.

It's amazing how little people are shown to do just basic DIY shit.
Man I know how you feel, I have a clueless friend who moved down from NYC and he thought opening electronics and shit was kind of illegal and that WD40 and Duct tape was a stupid meme untill I did some handy jobs for him and melted his fragile perception of the world by fixing a lawn mower and set of speakers, the look on his face when I had a lawn mower he was about to put next to his garbage running in about an hour was priceless.
 
You know, "gun debate" aside, and at the risk of sounding like a gun control freak, I feel like some sort of filter should be applied to this whole plastic gun thing. It's not about the technology or the politics of something like 3d printing, but rather, the fact that ease of access is not for everyone. Having it this easy for kids to have access to guns is something I believe we all can agree on.

A system to limit potentially dangerous buyers and minors should be set in place, in my honest opinion. Like i said, I don't have an issue with people printing/owning guns, but rather, with the fact that it makes it easier for minors and criminals to own a gun (Even if it is only good for a few shots before it breaks). It is easier for a kid to trick their technologically impaired guardian to print them a "fun looking gun" from the internet than it is for a store owner to run a background check on a potential customer, know what I mean.


All arguments for gun control are inherently stupid and invalid.

If a kid/nigger/muslim/nazi whatever the fuck wants a rooty tooty point and shooty, they can and will get one no mater what the Gun grabbers want.
 
Revolutionary new technology allows criminals to manufacture zip guns, unlike every other piece of technology in existence
 
i still want that 3d printer from watch dogs 2 that makes guns instantly
 
My buddy is a mechanic and when I showed him schematics for the STEN and a few books that show you how to build your own submachine guns (for academic purposes only! Just like it says on the cover) he was like "Shit, if I wanted to break the law real badly by making those they wouldn't be that hard. The whole thing could probably be churned out really quick in my shop if I had a hankering to go to federal pound me in the ass prison."

That was the entire point of the STEN - it was designed from the ground up to be easily made by whatever partisan dumbasses were under the German heel and had 1940s era bicycle shop grade equipment. With today's power tools making a STEN could be accomplished by a reasonably clever dog. The STEN is only one of many designs that have the purpose of being cheap and easy for partisan forces to manufacture, maintain, and use.


More modern designs like the Luty are specifically designed to circumvent most of the easiest logical controls one might imagine to control arms manufacture - the control of parts.


Here's another, even more modern example:
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All kinds of homemade guns are very prevalent;


In fact, take a stroll through this blog, which goes into all kinds of non-industrial gun production.

As it turns out, a lot of criminal organizations have illicit arms factories!

Like this one in Brazil:
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Or Montreal:
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Plus a variety of hand-built guns:
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Are these guns crude? Yeah. most of these are some ugly dog-fuckers that don't even belong in the same building as quality made industrial firearms in terms of fit/finish, reliability, accuracy, or ergonomics. If your aim is to perform a drive-by, hold up a store, or kill a gang rival though, do you really need a chestnut stock, laser aligned parts, and masterful engravings? Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever.
 
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Okay Cat, I know it's sort of taboo to say this, but even you look kinda sad doing the 'alt-right r dum' lame one-liner act over and over and over... isn't it time to give this routine a rest?

That out of the way, I have a copy of all the files thanks to that enterprising Youtuber. I'll be looking forward to using these as props if I ever have a 3d printer.
 
That was the entire point of the STEN - it was designed from the ground up to be easily made by whatever partisan dumbasses were under the German heel and had 1940s era bicycle shop grade equipment. With today's power tools making a STEN could be accomplished by a reasonably clever dog. The STEN is only one of many designs that have the purpose of being cheap and easy for partisan forces to manufacture, maintain, and use.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8-PmLxkOmaM
More modern designs like the Luty are specifically designed to circumvent most of the easiest logical controls one might imagine to control arms manufacture - the control of parts.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sIhGCRIQnCA
Here's another, even more modern example:
T3TGHQz.jpg

xUYVtZ6.png

IJOuM9b.png


All kinds of homemade guns are very prevalent;

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0TMrunbZLJw
In fact, take a stroll through this blog, which goes into all kinds of non-industrial gun production.

As it turns out, a lot of criminal organizations have illicit arms factories!

Like this one in Brazil:
JMKkx20.png

ButuEyC.png


Or Montreal:
aFK3xqI.png

SZNbMJj.png


Plus a variety of hand-built guns:
78Rlm1V.png

yA7z6tW.jpg

tiNnVt8.png

v8xgmph.png



Are these guns crude? Yeah. most of these are some ugly dog-fuckers that don't even belong in the same building as quality made industrial firearms in terms of fit/finish, reliability, accuracy, or ergonomics. If your aim is to perform a drive-by, hold up a store, or kill a gang rival though, do you really need a chestnut stock, laser aligned parts, and masterful engravings? Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever.
Absolutely. That's why I chuckle when people think you need some special factory to make guns. You'd be amazed how "crude" gun factories would seem to people's expectations. Most folks these days think it takes some sort of magical skill to churn out firearms. Not really the case when you consider how many gun companies have come out and really the design is shit that's relatively the same 100 years or so. The M16/AR15 is from over 50 years ago. The bolt action is coming up a good 150 years now. Pump shotguns aren't a new thing by any stretch. Perhaps some new techniques in finish/parts/case hardening but for the most part, guns aren't really complicated when you break them down.

Hell even the Glock is now nearing 40 years of age. It's not complicated shit.

Like I mentioned, my buddy who is a mechanical genius said it wouldn't take much more than acquiring material to produce a STEN sub gun. Hell he said the only tricky part would be rifling but even then, it's not exactly complicated shit either.

That's why I laugh at people who think banning guns would magically make them disappear.
 
lol guys i found another soyboy triggered by 3d guns!

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It really doesn't make sense. The material used for 3D printers is not gonna be suitable for a gun. And not just because of their make, but many other things too. They'll jam much easier among other problems such as fucking MELTING from even one shot. Even if you use a metal base for the gun there's plenty of problems that will come up upon the creation of it.

Also, calling it now, some of these files will more than likely be made and have instructions to deliberately kill people or some shit.
 
People who want to use 3D printers to make guns are stupid and selfish. They should be using their printers to make knives to send to the impoverished people of London. People are starving to death over there because the mayor made it illegal for them to cut their own dinner meat.
 
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