Culture 3D-printable downloadable guns available August 1 - Eat that shit gun control spergs

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https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/820032002
Americans will soon be able to make 3D-printed guns from their home, widening the door to do-it-yourself versions of firearms including the AR-15 — the gun of choice in American mass shootings — that are untraceable with no background check required.

A settlement earlier this year between the State Department and Texas-based Defense Distributed will let the nonprofit release blueprints for guns online starting Aug. 1, a development hailed by the group as the death of gun control in the United States.

"The age of the downloadable gun begins," Defense Distributed stated on its site. Its founder, Cody Wilson, tweeted a photograph of a grave marked "American gun control."

The plans freely available next month put firearms clicks away from anyone with the right machine and materials. That reality has startled gun control advocates, who say it makes untraceable firearms all the more available.

For Wilson, August marks the end of a years-long legal battle: He designed a 3D-printable plastic pistol, the "Liberator .380," in 2012 and put the plans online. It was downloaded more than 100,000 times before federal officials blocked his site, citing international export law.

A lawsuit from Wilson followed. The State Department settled in June.

The Second Amendment Foundation, a nonprofit that partnered with Wilson in the lawsuit, put out a statement calling the settlement "a devastating blow to the gun prohibition lobby."

Assembling guns at home isn't new. It can be done legally, too, provided the made-at-home gun isn't sold. Defense Distributed already sells parts that let users build their own untraceable firearms, known as "ghost guns" for their lack of serial numbers.

"Legally manufacture unserialized rifles and pistols in the comfort and privacy of home," one product's description states.

David Chipman, who worked 25 years as an agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told Vice News that the homemade guns favored by hobbyists have since become popular with criminals.

“Now, criminals have started using ghost guns as a way to circumvent assault weapon regulations," said Chipman, now an adviser to the gun control advocacy group Giffords. "I imagine that people will also start printing guns to get around laws.”

Gun plans previewed on Defense Distributed's website feature the Liberator pistol along with an AR-15 and a VZ-58, a Czechoslovakian assault rifle.

The printers needed to make the guns can cost from $5,000 to $600,000, according to Vice News. The quality of plastic matters, too: An early design printed by federal agents shattered after one shot. A second gun, made from a higher grade resin, stayed intact.


William Bones, the chief of police in Boise, Idaho, told the Idaho Statesmanthat law enforcement agencies have followed developments in 3D-printed guns for "quite a while now."

“Measures are needed to ensure these weapons are safely built and to prevent access by children or those prohibited from owning a firearm," Bones told the newspaper.

"Hopefully we see some safe and responsible legislation soon as well as manufacturers taking measure to prevent access which might lead to tragedy.”
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There was a guy a few years ago who built a working AKM receiver out of a shovel:

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While they are hand wringing over 3d printed guns this is a good time to upload a CAD for an assualt helicopter
 

A couple years ago when Kevin De Leon (California State Senate President) was trying to pass a crazy restrictive "ghost gun" law - the state NRA lobbyist did a hilarious presentation to the legislature and used a printout of the forum posts about the "Shovel AK-47".

He made a fool out of our legislators asking who was going to pay for all the Firearms dealers and where they were going to require serial numbers on every shovel and piece of metal sold at every hardware store in the state.

Needless to say they shelved the law before they got made fools of more publicly.
 
Just came across this excerpt from the Seattle Federal Judge decision to ban the publication:
Lasnik wrote in today's opinion that Washington state has "a clear and reasonable fear that the proliferation of untraceable, undetectable weapons will enable convicted felons, domestic abusers, the mentally ill, and others who should not have access to firearms to acquire and use them." The judge predicted that there would be a "proliferation of these firearms" if he did not grant the state's emergency motion to censor the files from Defense Distributed's website.

All those poor criminals, mentally ill and wife beaters were just waiting patiently with their 3d-printers for the CAD files to be published on August 1st. Thank God we have some common-sense in the federal judciary. lol.
 
It really doesn't make sense. The material used for 3D printers is not gonna be suitable for a gun. And not just because of their make, but many other things too. They'll jam much easier among other problems such as fucking MELTING from even one shot. Even if you use a metal base for the gun there's plenty of problems that will come up upon the creation of it.

Also, calling it now, some of these files will more than likely be made and have instructions to deliberately kill people or some shit.
i don't see how 3d printed guns are an improvement over regular guns unless you're a nerd who likes to be smug about having a 3d printer
 
i don't see how 3d printed guns are an improvement over regular guns unless you're a nerd who likes to be smug about having a 3d printer
I was going to say you don't have a 30-day waiting period or a bunch of paperwork to fill out, but you do have to wait however many hours it takes for the damn thing to print all the parts plus cleaning/assembly/testing, so you still have a 3-day waiting period I guess.
 
I was going to say you don't have a 30-day waiting period or a bunch of paperwork to fill out, but you do have to wait however many hours it takes for the damn thing to print all the parts plus cleaning/assembly/testing, so you still have a 3-day waiting period I guess.
Yet you can just buy a parts kit, 80% lower etc etc, or go to fucking home depot and make one.

Sten guns for the British mil was made in garages by civvys and sold to the gov during ww2. For those who don't know what a sten gun is let me explain it using scary anti gunner terms. full automatic hi capacity barrel shroud folding stock. Yup all of those and they were cranking them out in dad's back yard wood shed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sten If you want to read about it, I have a parts kit sitting around I can't be assed to finish because I'm fighting with a bren gun.

Now in regards to 3d printing, I don't trust plastic, for AR15s you can get a plastic (poly) lower and I gave one a shot. It cracked sitting in my safe, I've posted videos of it. It took range days fine but kinda just gave out sitting on itself.

Many states don't have any wait period for handguns or long guns. Private party sales are a thing etc etc.

Long story short, if you are a criminal, 3d printers are going to do what you could already do for more money, less chance of having the tools and not as well. While criminals are idiots and don't follow laws, criminals don't want to spend more money, more time and need to get their hands on a tool they don't have on hand.
 
That was the entire point of the STEN - it was designed from the ground up to be easily made by whatever partisan dumbasses were under the German heel and had 1940s era bicycle shop grade equipment. With today's power tools making a STEN could be accomplished by a reasonably clever dog. The STEN is only one of many designs that have the purpose of being cheap and easy for partisan forces to manufacture, maintain, and use.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8-PmLxkOmaM
More modern designs like the Luty are specifically designed to circumvent most of the easiest logical controls one might imagine to control arms manufacture - the control of parts.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sIhGCRIQnCA
Here's another, even more modern example:
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All kinds of homemade guns are very prevalent;

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0TMrunbZLJw
In fact, take a stroll through this blog, which goes into all kinds of non-industrial gun production.

As it turns out, a lot of criminal organizations have illicit arms factories!

Like this one in Brazil:
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Or Montreal:
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Plus a variety of hand-built guns:
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Are these guns crude? Yeah. most of these are some ugly dog-fuckers that don't even belong in the same building as quality made industrial firearms in terms of fit/finish, reliability, accuracy, or ergonomics. If your aim is to perform a drive-by, hold up a store, or kill a gang rival though, do you really need a chestnut stock, laser aligned parts, and masterful engravings? Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever.
10mm smg looking gun under the police/military sign is actually oddly endearing and I would totally love to have one.
 
10mm smg looking gun under the police/military sign is actually oddly endearing and I would totally love to have one.

Well it's a big awkward .380 sub gun that likely lacks rifling and shoots for shit with very questionable reliability but some people fuck fat chicks, so what do I know?

It was seized in Brazil so you can probably bribe it off the policia pretty easily. Or make one yourself in a garage, which is likely to be easier. Or if you want a 9mm short subgun pick up a Škorpion v 64.
 
It's 10mm, if you miss just being around it the shock wave will kill you and the small town you pointed it at dies.
 
Wouldn't be ironic to see that dummy judge from Washington State receiving the visit of burglars just like that happened to judge Susan Dlott a couple of years ago? If he don't do a 180 after that....

 
Wouldn't be ironic to see that dummy judge from Washington State receiving the visit of burglars just like that happened to judge Susan Dlott a couple of years ago? If he don't do a 180 after that....

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5wTjjKv2XtY
Oh I forgot about that case. I laughed my ass off. Bet they beat the liberal right out of her ass. Got a taste of her own medicine and I bet it was a bitter pill to swallow that night.
 
Well it's a big awkward .380 sub gun that likely lacks rifling and shoots for shit with very questionable reliability but some people fuck fat chicks, so what do I know?

It was seized in Brazil so you can probably bribe it off the policia pretty easily. Or make one yourself in a garage, which is likely to be easier. Or if you want a 9mm short subgun pick up a Škorpion v 64.
Eh I just liked how fugly it was, I know routes to get better if I wanted something less than legal (thank you southern police who need money more than evidence) but that thing was just adorable to me.
 
i don't see how 3d printed guns are an improvement over regular guns unless you're a nerd who likes to be smug about having a 3d printer
It's like the VR Crowd. People who own it act like it's the best thing ever and people who know it's worthless are either owners of Google Cardboard (what?) or are too poor to afford one.
 
Eh I just liked how fugly it was, I know routes to get better if I wanted something less than legal (thank you southern police who need money more than evidence) but that thing was just adorable to me.
if you live in a free US state, you can legally make that thing in semi auto if you like. it would be classified as a pistol.
 
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