Culture 3D-printable downloadable guns available August 1 - Eat that shit gun control spergs

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https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/820032002
Americans will soon be able to make 3D-printed guns from their home, widening the door to do-it-yourself versions of firearms including the AR-15 — the gun of choice in American mass shootings — that are untraceable with no background check required.

A settlement earlier this year between the State Department and Texas-based Defense Distributed will let the nonprofit release blueprints for guns online starting Aug. 1, a development hailed by the group as the death of gun control in the United States.

"The age of the downloadable gun begins," Defense Distributed stated on its site. Its founder, Cody Wilson, tweeted a photograph of a grave marked "American gun control."

The plans freely available next month put firearms clicks away from anyone with the right machine and materials. That reality has startled gun control advocates, who say it makes untraceable firearms all the more available.

For Wilson, August marks the end of a years-long legal battle: He designed a 3D-printable plastic pistol, the "Liberator .380," in 2012 and put the plans online. It was downloaded more than 100,000 times before federal officials blocked his site, citing international export law.

A lawsuit from Wilson followed. The State Department settled in June.

The Second Amendment Foundation, a nonprofit that partnered with Wilson in the lawsuit, put out a statement calling the settlement "a devastating blow to the gun prohibition lobby."

Assembling guns at home isn't new. It can be done legally, too, provided the made-at-home gun isn't sold. Defense Distributed already sells parts that let users build their own untraceable firearms, known as "ghost guns" for their lack of serial numbers.

"Legally manufacture unserialized rifles and pistols in the comfort and privacy of home," one product's description states.

David Chipman, who worked 25 years as an agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told Vice News that the homemade guns favored by hobbyists have since become popular with criminals.

“Now, criminals have started using ghost guns as a way to circumvent assault weapon regulations," said Chipman, now an adviser to the gun control advocacy group Giffords. "I imagine that people will also start printing guns to get around laws.”

Gun plans previewed on Defense Distributed's website feature the Liberator pistol along with an AR-15 and a VZ-58, a Czechoslovakian assault rifle.

The printers needed to make the guns can cost from $5,000 to $600,000, according to Vice News. The quality of plastic matters, too: An early design printed by federal agents shattered after one shot. A second gun, made from a higher grade resin, stayed intact.


William Bones, the chief of police in Boise, Idaho, told the Idaho Statesmanthat law enforcement agencies have followed developments in 3D-printed guns for "quite a while now."

“Measures are needed to ensure these weapons are safely built and to prevent access by children or those prohibited from owning a firearm," Bones told the newspaper.

"Hopefully we see some safe and responsible legislation soon as well as manufacturers taking measure to prevent access which might lead to tragedy.”
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when you own smelly buyback programs epic style.

It's amazing how many believes this is this brand new thing that was never possible.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/22/5-homemade-shotguns-handed-100-gun-give-back/

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Yeah, my dad bought a bunch of Jennings and Rohm guns for like $30 each and more than doubled his money at a c-note per gun buyback once.
 
Yeah, my dad bought a bunch of Jennings and Rohm guns for like $30 each and more than doubled his money at a c-note per gun buyback once.

I've posted before, but not that exact show but yeah done that .. got kicked out trying it again.
Spent all my profits on guns.
Shit was cash literally.


You bastards, you're both animals!
How could you do this to the taxman!
 
https://twitter.com/Plindsey88/status/1021827768739356673

salty libcucks mad. Check it out; all the Twitter threads on the gun issue have comments such as this.
(tokes on joint) dudeee... we should like ban guns mannnn.

It's amazing, on many issues people spout off with out understanding an issue, I've NEVER seen any group not understand an issue socially, legally and most so mechanically as anti gunners.

But, let's be careful. I'm a crazy man with guns, some have a shoulder thing that go up.
 
I made a similar statement in Progressivism breeds Crony Capitalism thread in Deep Thoughts.
Liberals should be happy. This will ultimately create further charges for gun-related crimes, thereby, increasing the incarceration times of poor black Americans... We all know liberals (the middle-to-high class ones anyway) don't actually like black people and only see them as accessories.
 
https://twitter.com/BullshitMike90/status/1016751849393623040

A more grounded viewpoint. It's a fair issue; most 3d printing types know little of the machining required to produce a gun
and very few have access to a metallic 3d printer (used for rapid prototyping). wood and polymer are not the only material available, there's quite the range.

it's also already been pointed out that expedient firearms printed out of polymer will not last more than a shot or two, but perhaps all that someone might need to accomplish their task - as in the concept of the original Liberator pistol from the 40's. the one important point to take away is that a gun is in it's most basic form a simple mechanical device - there is not any magical process to make one that must be kept from the public. it's no different than welding together some pipes for plumbing repair, or making your own furniture or hand tools.

i've started to think (based on my many experiences with younger folks and people that depends far too much on the service industry) that too many people have removed themselves from "how things are made and how they work" to be healthy.

they are too used to just paying someone money for things that they're forgetting how to do basic crafts not out of convenience, but out of an expectation that they have no skills or ability to perform the task. maybe they lack the willingness to learn a craft.

anyway, it creates an aura of mystery that is ripe for abuse by more knowledgeable/skilled people to take advantage of that ignorance. and further, that mystery also breeds some fear of the unknown when it's something that can be dangerous. it's this little kernel where i think you get a lot of gun control people that are completely ignorant about firearms keep trying to legislate them uselessly.
 
god bless america. seriously, this was inevitable. people have been doing this sort of thing even before 3d printers. just look at P.A. Luty full auto submachine gun. Literally a gun you can make out of off the shelf hardware store parts lmao.
 
You wouldn't download a car.

No. But I would download a gat and carjack a fool.

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3d printing doesn't make a gun that will last. It is polymers that won't withstand a number of fires.

At current, 3d printed receivers for firearms lack durability and do break after a few shots, they're just glorified zip guns. (Though that's bound to change as material tech gets better) And for what it would cost to buy yourself a 3d printing machine, you could churn out probably a couple dozen old-fashioned metal zip guns with metal stock bought off the shelf from Lowes. Or, just get a regular gun black-market.

If simplicity and ease of manufacture was the gateway to gun crime, we'd be up to our armpits in STEN guns, that design is 70 years old and was purposely optimized so unskilled laborers with only a vise and sheet metal could make one.

This is trying to stoke a fear that's been around for as long as the basic idea behind guns has been known, that somehow everyone WANTS to make their own gun and use it to commit a violent crime this very instant, and lack only the forbidden knowledge of how a pistol works....... which must be locked up in a monastary somewhere so taht only the privileged few can gatekeep such dangerous arts from the rabble.

You wouldn't download a car

No, but "kit cars" are a thing, you buy them via catalog and they ship you the parts in the mail, (well, truck freight, but you get the idea) you assemble it in your garage, then insure it, then take it to the DMV and get a plate for it, and voila', you have a car. Talk about ignorant....

]i've started to think (based on my many experiences with younger folks and people that depends far too much on the service industry) that too many people have removed themselves from "how things are made and how they work" to be healthy.

Tradeswork is beneath them, that's only for the dying-off underevolved red staters. Having even a rudimentary knowledge of the tools and techniques even your average handiman owns/possesses is beyond them, these are the people who refuse to pump their own gas because "That's dirty and dangerous"
 
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Seeing "3d printing" on computer machining/milling/lathing projects drives me up the wall: "3d printing" a firearm has been a thing since the late 1800s, once guns stopped being fully hand-crafted and started being made in factories where parts are stamped out or milled down from metal stock, etc.

Sure, you can "3d print" a firearm, wholly, from PLA or ABS but what you'll have is a weapon that is slightly (by which I mean incredibly) less effective than the FP-45 Liberator, a firearm whose instructions suggest the user employ it at point blank range to assassinate someone with a better weapon, take their gun, and then throw the Liberator away.

There are ways to 3d print parts of guns and make gunsmithing more convenient: grips, lowers, handles, rails etc. But this isn't like buying a Dremel home 3d printer and 18 hours later, hey wow you've got an M4 with 100 round banana magazine.
 
I think they have it all backwards personally, I think 3D printing molds to use to make metal parts would make a lot more sense than trying to 3D print the part directly.
 
Remember when they tried to ban the original Glock for being a "plastic gun invisible to metal detectors"? (a fiction perpetuated by Die Hard 2 that the public believed over, you know, facts? As opposed to Hollywood?) A Glock's frame is polymer, but, the barrel, slide and other internal parts are metal and in no way "invisible", and the "plastic" isn't to make it hard to detect, it's to shave weight by substituting it for metal where it's not needed because the grips don't have to contain the force of an explosion thousands of times in it's expected service life.
 
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