2016 Presidental Debates - Donald J Trump vs Hillary R Clinton

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May as well get this thread out of the way now. Any bets on who screams first (or if Hillary passes out)

First Debate: Monday September 26th, at 9PM at Hofstra University.

It will be streamed on YouTube for free.

Edit: lol fucked up the date
 
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Trump multiple times also said that "And I also agree with Hillary on the fact...", so it did make him out to be an understanding open person but at the same time it kind of made him to be a pushover. Hillary never said any sort of statement since she was too busy using the tired old muh soggy knee excuses and holding the triggering emotions from Pepe.
 
If you notice, though, the "mean bully" Trump didn't fire off ANY personal attacks (none that I can remember anyway). Hillary, however, threw character attack after character attack. "He's racist," "he's delusional," "he's hiding something," etc. Trump even went out of his way to make sure he addressed her properly at one point, and towards the end he said something like "I could say something that could be devastating to her and her family, but I won't" (probably something about Bill's "habits").

I think my favorite thing about Trump fans is when they complain about Hillary being a bully. Stones and glass houses, mister.
 
Say hello to the new "mansplaining".

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Looking over Trump's debate answers in transcripts really shines a light on how much nothing he spews out of his mouth. Like, it's not even coherent. I have legitimately no idea what his point is. Clinton spews word salad, but at least it's semi-on topic word salad. Trump just vomits meaningless platitudes that aren't even related in theme.

He's like your drunk uncle at thanksgiving, but somehow even less discernible.
 
The one one on one discussion I've had with a Clinton supporter was at my local fair when I got screamed at while wearing a Trump shirt while walking past the Democratic Party booth to get some fucking ice cream.
I'm now kind of tempted to get myself some Trump caps. Should I?
 
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Looking over Trump's debate answers in transcripts really shines a light on how much nothing he spews out of his mouth. Like, it's not even coherent. I have legitimately no idea what his point is. Clinton spews word salad, but at least it's semi-on topic word salad. Trump just vomits meaningless platitudes that aren't even related in theme.

All Hillary did was blame Trump for being a misogynist, sexist, and prejudice man while also saying she gets blamed for everything whenever he said something negative about her. Even though she did not have as much "word salad"s, she did have a lot of ad hominems which are just as bad.
 
All Hillary did was blame Trump for being a misogynist, sexist, and prejudice man while also saying she gets blamed for everything whenever he said something negative about her. Even though she did not have as much "word salad"s, she did have a lot of ad hominems which are just as bad.

Don't forget saying that literally everyone in America is a racist and that somehow saying that a woman should get the equal pay of a man only when she does the equal work of that man is bad. Or that we have to pretend pregnancies are not inconvenient in the workplace when it clearly is.
 
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Don't forget saying that literally everyone in America is a racist and that somehow saying that a woman should get equal pay for a man only when she does equal work to that man is bad. Or that we have to pretend pregnancies are not inconvenient in the workplace when it clearly is.

This. As incredibly sad as it is Trump was way stronger on policy than Clinton was. He would have won the whole thing if he kept dicking her as hard as he did over trade in the first fifteen minutes.
 
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I didn't realize that fighting terrorism world-wide was a personal issue and not a political one. He said she's a failed politician.

Or he lied about what she's been doing for her entire adult life. Which makes it a personal attack.

I think my favorite thing about Trump fans is when they complain about Hillary being a bully.

:story: :lol:
 
All Hillary did was blame Trump for being a misogynist, sexist, and prejudice man while also saying she gets blamed for everything whenever he said something negative about her. Even though she did not have as much "word salad"s, she did have a lot of ad hominems which are just as bad.

He legitimately tried to blame Clinton for creating ISIS because Obama pulled out of Iraq. Meanwhile they followed Bush's timetable on that shit, a fact the American far-right has conveniently forgotten. Along with who started the war in general, seemingly. It's almost like he was suggesting they should have overthrown the Iraqi government and occupied the country indefinitely (also his "we should have taken the oil" thing was as blatant an endorsement of out and out imperialism as one could ask for). Meanwhile at this point in time Iraq was more stable than it had been in years and staying probably would have made its problems worse and set it back years.

And yet, ISIS is Clinton's fault.

I can blame Clinton for a lot of shit, overthrowing the Honduran government, deporting central American kids fleeing gang violence, bombing Libya, etc etc. But most of the shit the American far-right and especially Trump accuses her of? No. Because if you asked people like Hannity she's literally the anti-christ who is personally responsible for every bad thing ever. She's not, she's just cynical as fuck in a Kissingerian sort of way. Spend enough time in politics and you turn out like that by necessity. Government isn't exactly a "humanizing" business. But that's a digression. My point here is that the way the GOP paints the Clintons and how they actually are have no relation to each other. In fact most of the "bad" things about Clinton are shit the GOP loves if a republican does it. Bombing Libya? They love that shit. Deporting central American kids? Hell, that's Trump's only consistent policy position seemingly! Supporting Latin American coups was Saint Ronald Reagan's favorite hobby (he also sold weapons to Iran, but these folks don't like to talk about that).

When Clinton's laughing that she gets blamed for everything, it's because people seriously do blame her for everything.

As for her calling Trump a bigot, he gave her the gun and the ammo and keeps giving her more. She has a goddamn armory to work off of now. He has nobody to blame for that but himself, frankly.
 
Yeah that was during the "Does Trump hate women?" question. I think he wanted to bring up the really nasty stuff Hillary has said about Bill's conquests over the years. That was a good move in my opinion, since anyone who knows anything about the Clinton family knows exactly what he was going to say, but by not actually saying it he comes off as the bigger person.

Well, that and Trump wasn't exactly a model husband himself. She could toss Marla Maples right back in his face. (And while Ivana's since gone back on what she said, a LOT of the allegations she made when they got divorced were seriously nasty.) It would bite him right in the ass. (I'd LOVE to see it happen, though. I'd laugh myself sick if that happened.)
 
Well, that and Trump wasn't exactly a model husband himself. She could toss Marla Maples right back in his face. (And while Ivana's since gone back on what she said, a LOT of the allegations she made when they got divorced were seriously nasty.) It would bite him right in the ass. (I'd LOVE to see it happen, though. I'd laugh myself sick if that happened.)
If either or smart, they'll never touch that stuff live.

Both have ties to Jeffrey Epstein's pedo island. They'll kill both their careers if that shit's brought up on the national stage.

Here's hoping a moderator asks them both about it.
 
Holy Pepe, all we need now is Trump getting caught selling a little girl to Bill Clinton.

Look if there was a demand for a product you can't blame Trump for being a shrewd businessman and cornering the market really Clinton is the one to blame for being a perv here
 
Look if there was a demand for a product you can't blame Trump for being a shrewd businessman and cornering the market really Clinton is the one to blame for being a perv here
Trump's being sued for allegedly raping a 13 year old girl pimped by Epstein.

How autistic are you? What's he gotta do? Morph into Jacob Zuma before you take his cock outta your mouth?
 
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