2016 Presidental Debates - Donald J Trump vs Hillary R Clinton

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May as well get this thread out of the way now. Any bets on who screams first (or if Hillary passes out)

First Debate: Monday September 26th, at 9PM at Hofstra University.

It will be streamed on YouTube for free.

Edit: lol fucked up the date
 
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Yeah, I expect Trump to do better at the next debate. Though I am curious, did anyone else get the impression that Hillary wasn't taking the debate serious from all of her laughing and shit? I know it was just an act to downplay anything Trump said, but I found it incredibly annoying. One of my friends has already said he doesn't think she was taking things serious, and I'm wondering if anyone else got that vibe or was turned off by her attitude?
Hillary has always been one of the least charismatic politicians in my opinion. You can tell that she's trying really hard to win the crowd over, and that's what makes her so unappealing. I don't have an opinion of Tim Kaine because I've neglected to do much research on him. However, I watched when she announces him as her VP, and his attempts to work the crowd felt way more natural than anything Hillary's ever done.
 
Trump should have roasted Hillary on her jobs plan. Subsidize the middle class, and subsidize clean energy? Like the 400 million wasted on Solyndra?

Why would manufacturing come back to America with subsidizing the middle class? You can pay Mexicans half the price of American workers. Companies aren't taxed when they bring in Mexican-made products into the USA. Combined with raising the minimum wage, and even more trade deals her husband and her party support, manufacturing would never come back to the USA under her rule. Manufacturing is a YUGE industry and it isn't going away. We can have millions of manufacturing jobs in the USA, but instead they're in China, they're in Mexico, and then the products are sold to the USA with NO TAX.

She ignored the trade deals and NAFTA, besides the singular one she voted against.
 
u think this is a fucking game? one week ban
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I hate reaction images but this is all I can say about the debate.
 
If this doesn't work out for Trump, he could always run for president of Second Life with his "tough on cyber" platform.
 
Results are in and most people think that Hillary won the debate.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-debate-poll/

Hillary Clinton was deemed the winner of Monday night's debate by 62% of voters who tuned in to watch, while just 27% said they thought Donald Trump had the better night.

However this means nothing as Obama under performed in his first debate against Romney and still won the presidency, but it goes without saying that Trump has a significant amount of work to do for the next debate.

Also please note that these results are not indicative of the voter base.
 
I've seen polls saying that Trump won, so I think it's really a matter of who's answering them.

Breitbart says he lost, according to the Metal Gear thread. So I think we can say its confirmed. They are trying to polish the crap by saying that Trump looked very "respectable and plausible like a real statesman." However I think Trump's strength was always his charismatic and nothing-held-back personality and not playing nice.
 
The first major polls of last night’s debate are out and show a resounding victory for Hillary Clinton across the board, whose poise, demeanor, and experience shown through in contrast to Donald Trump, who was repeatedly obnoxious and vapid in his babbling responses.

VOX rounded them up, and here’s the results:

A poll of debate watchers by CNN/ORC, which found that 62 percent thought Clinton won and 27 percent thought Trump did. CNN’s David Chalian emphasized on air that the sample was 10 points more Democratic than in a typical poll, but that’s still a strong win for Clinton.


A poll of debate watchers by Public Policy Polling, which found that 51 percent thought Clinton won and 40 percent thought Trump won.

A focus group of 20 undecided Florida voters by CNN found that 18 of them thought Clinton won.

And a focus group of Pennsylvania voters by GOP pollster Frank Luntz overwhelmingly thought Clinton had won. Libby Nelson has more details about that here.

That tremendous advantage for Clinton is crucial, given that some 50% of likely voters have said that the debates will help inform their decision. Facts, experience, and respect clearly matter to the voters, and last night’s debate showed once again that all three are on the side of Mrs. Clinton.

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I agree with this, and I'll say that he led her into a trap with his comments on NAFTA, and succeeding those comments, her comment about Bill doing a "good job" with regard to US jobs.

She conveniently left out that Bill supported NAFTA, until Trump notified the audience about his support.

It was my favorite part of the debate.

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Lester the Unlikely pitched some softballs to Hillary in the form of questions about Trump's quotes. Even Vox recognizes that the moderator interrupted her less often than he interrupted Trump.

I had a sinking feeling that this debate would be Trump's weakest of the presidential debates. I expect that the upcoming debates will be better as far as content and style.
Like what happened with Obama last time, only shittier.
 
Trump almost went REEEEE on her but it wouldn't have mattered to me even if he went and took a dump in the middle of the stage, as he's the one of the two who doesn't advocate for national suicide, Merkel style.
 
Yeah and next up is the VP debate. Trump is going to need Clinton to return to fucking up constantly to have a chance, since Pence will get slaughtered.
you say this assuming people will watch the VP debates
When Hillary started giving Trump shit about his tax returns, and she was like, "there must be something he's hiding," I was expecting him to bring up how her campaign people deleted the e-mails and smashed their devices with hammers for the same reason.
He should've pulled Sanders' move and said in return "there must be something she's hiding in those Goldman Sachs speech transcripts" on top of the email thing. That way he has two against one.

Honestly, it could be so easy for both of them to absolutely wipe the floor with the other. Both have so much shit surrounding them. Campaign managers and advisers are the most fucking incompetent people in this whole damn country.
 
Honestly it wouldn't matter if anybody watched, it's going to be sound bite city when they get into all the goofy shit Pence has supported these past 10 years.
The issue is Tim Kaine is a literal pushover, Pence will shut his ass up every time.
 
Honestly it wouldn't matter if anybody watched, it's going to be sound bite city when they get into all the goofy shit Pence has supported these past 10 years.

If this one is any indication, it will be two boring old guys arguing. I doubt anything dramatic will happen with them. Even with the candidates not a single mention of leaked emails or altright frogs.
 
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CNN really did balls up the methodology on this one though. They didn't poll equally, which is needed to get good debate data.

If we assume every Republican chose Trump and every Democrat chose Clinton, that still means independents chose Clinton in a 32:1 ratio.

I hope you're all ready for America's first female president. Maybe the first female president to resign from lung failure while in office.
 
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