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don't women have a much easier time doing splits and all kinds of body twists and contortions that require a high degree of mobility and flexibility? I don't think men can easily compete there. i don't really know anything about gymnastics though
The male pelvis is differently shaped. Due to this, women can contort in specific ways that men are physically unable to genetically. There are most likely gymnastic moves the men can do better, and others that women can do better. I'm assuming.

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It's not just a huge advantage, it's a potentially insurmountable advantage.

Track & field often comes up in these conversations for two reasons: 1) troons are trying to invade it and 2) it's the least ambiguous sport out there.

If, say, a "decent enough" but not championship-level Division I male middle distance runner (with 1:49/3:45 PRs for example) decided to troon out he would win every race against women, every single time, barring a fall or pulled muscle or something. He would also, instantly, become the "world's fastest woman ever." In other words, you don't have to be an elite male to beat elite females. You can be a mediocre male. Sex is segregated in sport for that reason, among others.

More track bullshit..... here are the top times run by HIGH SCHOOL BOYS in California this year (click the Men's Top Athletes tab):

Here are the best times EVER run by females:

Notice anything?

We've been "fortunate" so far as the type of men that are likely to troon out are also likely to be inept at most anything, including sports. But the dam will break.
That's the thing activists and articles always forget. If someone is the 47000th fastest male runner in the world, and they transition, and now they're the 47th fastest female runner in the world, they won't threaten any gold medals but it should be a cause for huge concern even if they're not breaking world records or setting records. It's not "trannies are taking all the medals" it's that someone shouldn't be able to transition into a ranking way, way above their ranking as a man.
 
Has anyone posted this yet?

Trans woman crowned Miss Nevada
The Miss Nevada USA account posted to Instagram, ‘Congratulations to our new Miss Nevada USA @mskataluna 👑 History made!’

Kataluna competed with 21 other women this weekend. She took the title of Miss Silver State USA in March, a precursor to the Miss Nevada USA event.

In a post on Instagram, she wrote, in part: “Huge thank you to everyone who supported me from day one. My community, you are always in my heart. My win is our win. We just made history. Happy pride.”
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At least the the trannies don’t actually have an advantage over real women in these types of competitions. Their only advantage is the sympathy/woke points they will be awarded until their novelty wears off.
 
That's the thing activists and articles always forget. If someone is the 47000th fastest male runner in the world, and they transition, and now they're the 47th fastest female runner in the world, they won't threaten any gold medals but it should be a cause for huge concern even if they're not breaking world records or setting records. It's not "trannies are taking all the medals" it's that someone shouldn't be able to transition into a ranking way, way above their ranking as a man.
yeah the problem with that fat NZ tranny isn't just that he might win a womens medal, the main problem is that by taking up a spot in the womens competition he is depriving a real woman of the opportunity to participate at all

at the olympics this is now visible to the world, but even at lower levels (national and regional competitions, even in local club and school teams) the same kind of damage is done when trannoids waltz in
 
That's the thing activists and articles always forget. If someone is the 47000th fastest male runner in the world, and they transition, and now they're the 47th fastest female runner in the world, they won't threaten any gold medals but it should be a cause for huge concern even if they're not breaking world records or setting records. It's not "trannies are taking all the medals" it's that someone shouldn't be able to transition into a ranking way, way above their ranking as a man.
It's also about how the ex-47th fastest female runner in the world is then unfairly called 48th, and how, unchecked, there's no shortage of men to dominate all 47 places. The 47,000 fastest women in the world are supposed to be rare. If 1/100 troons decide to take up running, every single one will handily take a place in the top 47,000.

I couldn't dream of being the 47,000th fastest woman on earth because I have corgi legs. I could dominate children's track if I wanted to feel special but I have no reason to hold any sort of position of athletic honor.
 
Sorry to burst your :optimistic: but this is simply untrue.




lmao "Ew, yucky cis women. Been there, done that. Trans cuties are more women than they will ever be!" "Why won't real women suck my shenis?"

Trannies never change. It's the same "Sour Grapes" story every single time. Pathetic.


I honestly think Zoomers are doomed and hopeless. It's the generation after them that I'm looking forward to. I hope the pendulum swings hard and they mercilessly bully the older generations and get shit back on track again.
Sorry, this reply is a bit late, but I just want to point out the possibility or likelihood that the only reason gen Zs seem to have swallowed the troon koolaid and agree to all of this is because they are either children or they are young adults with brains that haven’t even fully developed yet. Basically, they don’t know any different or any better, yet.

I firmly believe that the older you get, the harder reality hits you. Young people are known for their tendency to be idealistic and gullible.

I feel like the millennial stats are a good example of this. It’s half because some are just now hitting that age/point in life where you start to see shit for what it really is but are still a tad skeptical toward accepting you were young and stupid (pro troon shit), while the other half are passed that and undoubtedly see shit for what it is (against troon shit). Plus, factoring in the population that identify with the troon /alphabet people shit themselves, the numbers make sense.

How many of us used to be more accepting or lax with the troon shit in our younger years, until we matured and became more learned about what it actually entails/promotes? I’d be curious to know.

I would be willing to bet that if you give gen z’s the same survey in 5-10 years, the results would be significantly different.
 
yeah the problem with that fat NZ tranny isn't just that he might win a womens medal, the main problem is that by taking up a spot in the womens competition he is depriving a real woman of the opportunity to participate at all

at the olympics this is now visible to the world, but even at lower levels (national and regional competitions, even in local club and school teams) the same kind of damage is done when trannoids waltz in
Top 47th won't ever make headlines so someone going up tens of thousands in rankings by transitioning won't be a problem, because it's not like trans-women are threatening the queen. At lower levels it will become more noticeable and I have predicted that young women or girls with the drive to pursue athletics will as adults pursue the unfairness of it when they get cheated out of an opportunity as youth. And you know athletes, they set their mind on something and works towards it.
Sorry, this reply is a bit late, but I just want to point out the possibility or likelihood that the only reason gen Zs seem to have swallowed the troon koolaid and agree to all of this is because they are either children or they are young adults with brains that haven’t even fully developed yet. Basically, they don’t know any different or any better, yet.

I firmly believe that the older you get, the harder reality hits you. Young people are known for their tendency to be idealistic and gullible.

I feel like the millennial stats are a good example of this. It’s half because some are just now hitting that age/point in life where you start to see shit for what it really is but are still a tad skeptical toward accepting you were young and stupid (pro troon shit), while the other half are passed that and undoubtedly see shit for what it is (against troon shit).
I see the same thing and hopefully the future divide between the two will be recognized as groomers vs people that grew up normally. Between now and then there will be a lot of OnlyFans links and desperate, but not prostitution because of TOS, pleas on twitter.
 
For many people trannies are an ethereal, unfortunate class they only hear of in the news or in political discussion. The instant they come face to face with one irl their discomfort is immediate and a disgust starts to grow in their mind that cripples the image the media crafted them. The more trannies there are who openly flaunt their debauchery, the less accepted they become.
Don't forget hate speech's laws! That's why in some countries people shut up their true thoughts about troons. It's not worthy to lose your livehood and going to jail just because they want to call a spade a spade. Clown world, indeed. Remember that poor mum who got arrested after saying that a man in frocks got a cock and thus is male.
 
Oh god, there are a bunch of them on Twitter.

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That’s fucking Islamic! Never seen that fetish until now.

Really though, after seeing this, then the other pic like this, upthread, I’ve realized that, there really is no part of womanhood which troons won’t fetishize. (Excluding actual housework, care of children, etc, the real shit that women deal with, unless the troon creates some sex fantasy out of it.)

Next, they’ll fantasize (on Twitter, of course) about female genital mutilation. Not just attempt to be included in the effort to help prevent FGM (which troons tried) but actually gettin’ off on imagining some forced troon BS scenario.

There is this awesome, based, woman who heads up a lot of activism to protect women, & especially girls, from FGM.

She is on Twitter, but most of her activism is IRL, contrary to so many “activists.”

She posted a few months back about protecting women & children from FGM, & troons tried “cancelling” & “educating” her.

The Troons didn’t get too far. She shut them down fast. Said, “I work for women & girls. This ain’t about you. No.”

No playing. The troons & handmaidens just backed the fuck down. No debate, using BS pomo word salad, she gave them no quarter. (She is black or palestinian or whatever, which might have contributed to the backdown. It’s how ID Pol idiots operate.)

May have made it’s way here, in thread, but can’t check atm, search functions down, as we know.)

She is fucking great. Her name is Hibo Wardere.
Twitter is:
https://twitter.com/hibowardere?s=21

Archive:
 
For many people trannies are an ethereal, unfortunate class they only hear of in the news or in political discussion. The instant they come face to face with one irl their discomfort is immediate and a disgust starts to grow in their mind that cripples the image the media crafted them. The more trannies there are who openly flaunt their debauchery, the less accepted they become.
Like others have said, lack of worldliness is the root of a lot of their support. Un poco power level but every person I know irl who has allowed the internet to get between them and reality become massive believers in gender ideology and will throw around "how does it hurt anyone? it doesn't even impact you" with all the confidence of a man or woman who hasn't taken a shit farther than 20 feet from their bed in ten years. In that pseudo reality, Faceapp photos and fantasy catcalling are material evidence that the world outside, as far as the ideologue is aware, has transformed rapidly since they last engaged with the world. If they ever pulled themselves together to explore it, they think they would find themselves surrounded by a magical new society of androgyny, genderfluidity, and pansexuality that will compensate for this massive dry spell they are in.
 
I recently listened to Benjamin Boyce's interview with a women's coach Linda Blade and she stated that women's rythmic gymnastics is the only sport she could think of where men do not have a physical advantage. That's why there is no men's category in that sport at the Olympics, it's not doable for men for the reasons you mentioned, and probably others.
They can just start calling that event transphobic and get it removed or changed.
 
IDK if this has been posted or if its relevant here, but Oli London, a “non-binary” (they/them pronouns) British plastic surgery/K-Pop obsessed freak is facing accusations of “transracialism”, cultural appropriation and probably “yellow-face” because he got surgery to look like a K-Pop star and now identifies as “Korean”.

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Sorry, this reply is a bit late, but I just want to point out the possibility or likelihood that the only reason gen Zs seem to have swallowed the troon koolaid and agree to all of this is because they are either children or they are young adults with brains that haven’t even fully developed yet. Basically, they don’t know any different or any better, yet.

I firmly believe that the older you get, the harder reality hits you. Young people are known for their tendency to be idealistic and gullible.

I feel like the millennial stats are a good example of this. It’s half because some are just now hitting that age/point in life where you start to see shit for what it really is but are still a tad skeptical toward accepting you were young and stupid (pro troon shit), while the other half are passed that and undoubtedly see shit for what it is (against troon shit). Plus, factoring in the population that identify with the troon /alphabet people shit themselves, the numbers make sense.

How many of us used to be more accepting or lax with the troon shit in our younger years, until we matured and became more learned about what it actually entails/promotes? I’d be curious to know.

I would be willing to bet that if you give gen z’s the same survey in 5-10 years, the results would be significantly different.
Yes, but note the original discussion was about general conservative viewpoints, not just opinions on trans people. I do think there will be a gen Z or gen alpha backlash eventually against the transgender show, if only because it will not be seen as cool anymore. When being nonbinary or on estrogen is associated with being in your thirties and fat and out of date with what the kids are doing, those kids will not be lining up to get on board and constantly validate your feelings.

I do not think this will translate to more conservative beliefs in general (in the sense of 'conservatism' as we understand it now in any case). The key to turning people conservative is to offer them a positive stake in the status quo, and young people simply are not getting that anymore. We are in for interesting times. But that is getting off topic.
 
Yes, but note the original discussion was about general conservative viewpoints, not just opinions on trans people. I do think there will be a gen Z or gen alpha backlash eventually against the transgender show, if only because it will not be seen as cool anymore. When being nonbinary or on estrogen is associated with being in your thirties and fat and out of date with what the kids are doing, those kids will not be lining up to get on board and constantly validate your feelings.

I do not think this will translate to more conservative beliefs in general (in the sense of 'conservatism' as we understand it now in any case). The key to turning people conservative is to offer them a positive stake in the status quo, and young people simply are not getting that anymore. We are in for interesting times. But that is getting off topic.
Just to add a little powerlevel here, I’m the parent of a Gen Z teen boy, keen gamer, kinda nerdy. His only experience of troonery is at school, and apparently ‘it’s all fat girls‘, as for non-binary I’ll directly quote him ‘just seems to mean you get a shitty haircut and a pair of ugly glasses’.
 
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