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Its been translated if you want to check for yourself, but people disliked how it started out with one of them murdering an entire village and fucking the corpse of the main character's childhood friend while the others watch.
Yeah I can see why that would be generate backlash. Like having parodies of isekai characters doing evil shit could be a good concept but I think something like that would've been better as a reveal later in the manga cause that sounds like it's done for shock for the sake of it. This sounds like a failed deconstruction story.
 
It's more of a stagnation than increasingly lower quality. What the industry needs is some big name author making a work about how the genre is shit, intellectually bankrupt and appeals to losers who fucked up their lives and want a redo, except not really since they are just reborn as chads.
I think its rather a big name author needs to make a decent work in general regardless of shitting on it or not.
I don't think the problem lies in the genre, after all the only requirement for a series to be considered an isekai is being sent to another world, but the types of lazy writers who want to make a quick buck

I wouldn't say I'm the biggest fan of isekai although there are a few I enjoy, but this reminds me of when people would refuse to watch anything from the mecha genre because giant robots are stupid or some dumb shit.
 
I have refused to watch Attack On Titan for years because all the weird fat gay nerds at school were way too into that and SAO, and My Hero Academia is fucking gay and I want to beat up Deku.
 
Seems like it should be well within the realms of parody. Maybe Japan has stricter intellectual property laws?

I know Japan doesn't consider parodies fair use, hence why that one Gundam spoof episode of the Osomatsu-kun reboot was removed from circulation.

And, no, I can't fully explain why a harmless Osomatsu-kun parody episode was cracked down upon while doujins featuring unauthorized use of copyrighted characters engaging in the sorts of activities which are obviously not sanctioned by the creators or the intellectual property holders proliferate but I think it has something to do with Osomatsu-kun being a commercial production while doujins are considered fan works.
 
And, no, I can't fully explain why a harmless Osomatsu-kun parody episode was cracked down upon while doujins featuring unauthorized use of copyrighted characters engaging in the sorts of activities which are obviously not sanctioned by the creators or the intellectual property holders proliferate but I think it has something to do with Osomatsu-kun being a commercial production while doujins are considered fan works.
I remember reading an article about it a long time ago and IIRC that's pretty much correct. Doujins are tolerated because there is the understanding that they're circulated within a niche fan community of convention-goers and the profit that doujin circles make from them is usually not that much, mostly just to cover the printing costs. Which is part of why doujin artists hate it when those gaijin pigs scanlate their stuff and spread it around everywhere online.
 
I thought Cheat Slayer had a good concept, but the execution (and the potential problems with IPs) was way too much of a problem, which made it look more like "oh I want to make these popular isekais look bad" and less like "here's something mostly different and unique from other isekais," even if the author wanted to parody said popular isekais due to personally liking them.
 
Turns out Cheat Slayer got canceled after one chapter, guess the designs was too similiar to be comfortable about not getting sued or something. Kind of unfortunate, I was interested in knowing what the deal was with the part-time waitress.

It's interesting to know which authors had a problem with it. Iirc the only one to mention it was the author of Slime who said he wasn't bothered by it but wished they had asked.

Though, many think it was because it was mean spirited on account of featuring characters that weren't really particularly popular, or isekai'd but sold more than his work. He also tried writing an isekai about a lawyer before that got canceled.
Cheat Slayer getting shitcanned gets much funnier in context and this doesn't fully represent how much of a seething hack the author is.
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SAO, Slime, Overlord, etc were all popular enough to justify being included in a parody, but then you get shit like Isekai Shokudou, which is a nothing story about an otherworld restaurant, whose only relevance to justify its inclusion is that it sold more than Kakegurui, a gambling manga with zero narrative stakes and is carried entirely by its coomer art.
Even without the spectre of Japanese copyright laws looming, the characters' delivery was also intentionally tasteless. It was less "haha I borrowed your character" than it was "haha I borrowed your character and also made him a necrophile rapist". Like Kakegurui (and the cancelled isekai lawyer thing before it), it reeks of an author who thinks of himself as far smarter than he really is.
Isekai is by nature a terrible, self-referential, and masturbatory genre, which is even moreso good reason to not shit on peers.

Publishers may be cautious, but fans are vindictive. I wouldn't be surprised if his shitty gambling cuck manga also got shitcanned sometime down the line.
 
Cheat Slayer getting shitcanned gets much funnier in context and this doesn't fully represent how much of a seething hack the author is.
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SAO, Slime, Overlord, etc were all popular enough to justify being included in a parody, but then you get shit like Isekai Shokudou, which is a nothing story about an otherworld restaurant, whose only relevance to justify its inclusion is that it sold more than Kakegurui, a gambling manga with zero narrative stakes and is carried entirely by its coomer art.
Even without the spectre of Japanese copyright laws looming, the characters' delivery was also intentionally tasteless. It was less "haha I borrowed your character" than it was "haha I borrowed your character and also made him a necrophile rapist". Like Kakegurui (and the cancelled isekai lawyer thing before it), it reeks of an author who thinks of himself as far smarter than he really is.
Isekai is by nature a terrible, self-referential, and masturbatory genre, which is even moreso good reason to not shit on peers.

Publishers may be cautious, but fans are vindictive. I wouldn't be surprised if his shitty gambling cuck manga also got shitcanned sometime down the line.
It also doesn't help Cheat Slayer that it was parodying Konosuba and Re;Zero which are actually pretty subversive of the Isekai genre since both have main characters that are losers or have shit powers instead of common isekai tropes of the main character being a gigachad surrounded by cheerleaders.

It's like making a parody of a parody at that point. It's a shame it got canned only because I wonder how much dumb shit the author will put in his work.
 
It also doesn't help Cheat Slayer that it was parodying Konosuba and Re;Zero which are actually pretty subversive of the Isekai genre since both have main characters that are losers or have shit powers instead of common isekai tropes of the main character being a gigachad surrounded by cheerleaders.

It's like making a parody of a parody at that point. It's a shame it got canned only because I wonder how much dumb shit the author will put in his work.
Oh yes, 'subversive'. Konosuba is good but Zero is shit.
 
That's not my point, was just saying it's really retarded to parody series that by themselves poke fun at Isekai tropes in very different ways.

It's like making a parody of science fiction but parodying Space Balls
Not really. Space Balls doesn't have a coherent plot with parts meant to be taken seriously.
 
Currently reading Dungeons & Artifacts and so far it's good but, fuck, the translation is so awkward and stilted that it often reads like a DeepL translation.
 
It also doesn't help Cheat Slayer that it was parodying Konosuba and Re;Zero which are actually pretty subversive of the Isekai genre since both have main characters that are losers or have shit powers instead of common isekai tropes of the main character being a gigachad surrounded by cheerleaders.

It's like making a parody of a parody at that point. It's a shame it got canned only because I wonder how much dumb shit the author will put in his work.
I watched Konosuba knowing nothing about Isekai, and still thought it was funny. The humor is IMO like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
 
Isekai is by nature a terrible, self-referential, and masturbatory genre, which is even moreso good reason to not shit on peers.
I hear that Vision of Escaflowne and The Twelve Kingdoms are genuinely good Isekai and they were made before Isekai became a mainstay genre with SAO and all the weird shit that brought from 2012 onward.
 
Like having parodies of isekai characters doing evil shit could be a good concept
It's not like all the characters that were parodied were the archetype of "good guys" in their own stories either and a few felt redundant. I'd hardly consider Tanya or Ainz to be the "hero" of their worlds, their stories are more like we are getting to watch from the villain's perspective.
 
It's not like all the characters that were parodied were the archetype of "good guys" in their own stories either and a few felt redundant. I'd hardly consider Tanya or Ainz to be the "hero" of their worlds, their stories are more like we are getting to watch from the villain's perspective.
Yeah that’s also an issue honestly the best way to do an Isekai parody is to make original characters not based on anyone (but inspiration from the very bad isekai like smartphone for example) since a lot of the popular isekai that are well liked beyond just the target demographic of self insert faggots have flawed protagonists.
 
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