Why do women still get judged so harshly for having casual sex?

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F. Scott Fitzgerald famously called the Roaring Twenties – which happened on the heels of the 1918 flu pandemic – “the most expensive orgy in history.”

Now, as more and more Americans are vaccinated, some are saying all the sexual energy pent up over the past year will be unleashed, with Yale sociologist Nicholas Christakis predicting a summer marked by a surge in “sexual licentiousness.”

Women, however, might face backlash for exploring their post-vaccination sexuality. In a new study, we found that women – but not men – continue to be perceived negatively for having casual sex.

This stereotype persists even as casual sex has become increasingly normalized and gender equality has risen in the U.S. and much of the Western world.

Specifically, both men and women assume that a woman who has casual sex must have low self-esteem.

But that perception isn’t based in reality. So what might be driving this unfounded stereotype?

A belief held across religious and political divides​

Although the idea that women’s sexual behavior is linked to their self-esteem is a common trope in film, television and even some relationship advice sites, we documented just how entrenched this stereotype is across six experiments published in Psychological Science.

In one experiment, we asked Americans to estimate the correlation between people’s sexual behavior and their self-esteem. We described those people as being a man, woman or simply as “a person,” without providing any information about their gender. We then described that man, woman or person as having a lot of casual sex, portrayed them as being a serial monogamist or provided no information about their sexual behavior.

We found that Americans tended to associate monogamy with high self-esteem, especially for women. More striking, they associated casual sex with low self-esteem – but only for women.

This belief was surprisingly widespread, and across our studies we found that both men and women hold it.

We wondered: Was this stereotype the product of sexist beliefs? Could it be due to participants’ political ideology or their religion?

But time and again, we saw that this stereotype transcended a number of markers, including the extent to which someone held sexist beliefs, their political views and their religiosity.

What if a woman says she wants casual sex?​

However, people might believe that women don’t want casual sex in the first place. For example, people might assume that women have causal sex only because they’re trying and failing to attract a long-term relationship. In fact, such beliefs do seem to influence the stereotype about women’s self-esteem.

Specifically, the more that Americans believed that women don’t actually want casual sex, the more these Americans tended to associate women’s casual sex with low self-worth.

This finding inspired another experiment. We wondered what would happen if we told participants that a woman was actually perfectly happy with her casual sexual lifestyle. Might that change their beliefs?

But even this factor didn’t seem to stop the stereotyping. Participants still saw these women as having low self-esteem. And they even perceived a woman described as having monogamous sex – but who was deeply dissatisfied with her monogamous sex life – as having higher self-esteem.

Here’s the kicker: Among our participants – the same ones who showed this stereotyping – we found virtually no association between their self-esteem and their own sexual behavior.

These findings are similar to those of psychologist David Schmitt, who conducted a survey of more than 16,000 participants drawn from all over the world, and also found little association between self-esteem and casual sex.

And in our study, it was actually the men who reported having more casual sex who also tended to have slightly lower self-esteem.

Do our Stone Age brains play a role?​

So why do people hold this negative assumption about women who have casual sex – especially if it doesn’t hold water? The short answer is that we currently do not know, and associations between sex and self-esteem in the real world are complex.

Some people might wonder if the media is to blame. It’s true that women who have casual sex are sometimes portrayed as being somehow deficient. But this doesn’t tell the whole story. Even if popular media perpetuates this stereotype, it still doesn’t explain why people would feel compelled to portray women this way in the first place.

Another possible explanation is that the stereotype extends from reproductive biology, in which men have historically had more to gain from casual sex than women, who – since they risk getting pregnant – often have to bear greater costs, on average, than men.

Yet today, newer technologies – like birth control and safe, legal abortion – allow women to have casual sex without being forced to bear some of those unwanted costs. Perhaps, then, our Stone Age brains have simply not yet caught up.

Whatever the origin of this stereotype, it’s likely to foster prejudice and discrimination today. For example, people perceived to have low self-esteem are less likely to be asked out on dates or elected to political office.

This stereotype might also have led to seemingly well-intentioned – but ultimately misguided – advice directed toward girls and women about their sexual behavior. There is a cottage industry built around telling women what sort of sex not to have. (Searching for books on “friendship advice” on Amazon yields fewer than 40 results, but searching for “dating advice” returned over 2,000.)

In Western society, women are rarely disparaged for breaking glass ceilings to become leaders, professors, CEOs and astronauts.

So why do they continue to be denigrated as they become increasingly open and willing to go to bed with others at their own whim, of their own accord?
 
Simply put, it’s because women have much more to lose from having casual sex than men do. Unlike men, they can get pregnant which means one of three things can happen:
1. Abortion
2. Adoption
3. Single motherhood

I say single motherhood because most men who engage in casual sex aren’t looking for a long term relationship. In fact, I’d like to point out that many of those men are often already in long term relationships and are just cheating so they can find someone who they can degrade in ways their own wives won’t tolerate.

Plus, if these guys are smart enough, they’ll typically ghost the women they casually engage with to avoid having to deal with child support (should that happen), or any potential for drama altogether.

Being tossed aside like that isn’t really good for anyone’s mental health. It’s better to not engage in this type of hedonism to spare yourself the mental beat downs than to let yourself be degraded.

High value people also don’t want to be with a person who has consistent commitment problems, or cannot deal with delayed gratification. Being committed and able to cope with delayed gratification are key to successful relationships
 
A dick that's been in a lot of vagina is probably just as diseased as a vagina that's had a ton of dick in it.
But double standards amirite?

Women only get shamed because the consequences of the behavior (pregnancy and STDs) are usually more noticable, making it easier to spot them a mile away and shame them. That, and the level of their hotness plus the hotness of the dudes they're hooking up with. It's fucking dumb convoluted social numbers bullshit, honestly.
 
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Personally, I'd be worried about STDs from anyone who sleeps around. Man, woman, hermaphrodite, Martian. Careless casual sex is a great way to get the clap. The Martian might introduce some horrific space STD.
 
Personally, I'd be worried about STDs from anyone who sleeps around. Man, woman, hermaphrodite, Martian. Careless casual sex is a great way to get the clap. The Martian might introduce some horrific space STD.
That's why if ur gonna be a ho, be a ho responsibly. Use condoms, get tested for shit, and if you catch something get it treated. Also don't lie to your partners, that's terrible
 
Maybe there would be less incels if women had more casual sex?
yeah but then those losers would knock up more women and the next generation would suck even worse. The choosiness of women is part of why the species is worth a shit, she should only risk pregnancy for the best guy she can attract. Women who fuck tons of guys lower the value of female sexuality generally. Men don't have to try very hard to get laid, and then they don't try to improve themselves, and its hard to tell which guy is worth getting pregnant with. I don't think anyone hostile to women who sleep around is conscious of any of this, but it is built in to the rules of the system that steered humanity towards dominance over life on earth. It is a system older than we can fathom. Women have a very short window of fertility compared to men. They have to figure out all this much more quickly.
 
yeah but then those losers would knock up more women and the next generation would suck even worse. The choosiness of women is part of why the species is worth a shit, she should only risk pregnancy for the best guy she can attract. Women who fuck tons of guys lower the value of female sexuality generally. Men don't have to try very hard to get laid, and then they don't try to improve themselves, and its hard to tell which guy is worth getting pregnant with. I don't think anyone hostile to women who sleep around is conscious of any of this, but it is built in to the rules of the system that steered humanity towards dominance over life on earth. It is a system older than we can fathom. Women have a very short window of fertility compared to men. They have to figure out all this much more quickly.
this would have been a valid point a hundred years ago but in the present it's very far from reality. the selection criteria women use in current year america (and europe) are dysgenic and ruinous to long term societal development.
 
That is a concept called telegony. Some species do it. It's unlikely humans do though. And if they do, it would obviously require insemination. So condoms would fix the issue anyway.
Isn't that some shit that the ancient Sumerians believed? I think that's how Gilgamesh justifies Prima Noctis at the start of the story.
How is it not based in reality? I've known a number of women who had a lot of casual sex, and something that was true for most of them is that they had unpleasant sex with men they didn't find attractive. Why do that unless you have self-esteem issues?

Some women who have made being whores their brand have even admitted that they didn't get off on it. Catherine Millett started having group sex at 16 but didn't have her first orgasm until 26 when a boyfriend gave her a vibrator. There was another "slutmobile" who worked for Gawker back in the day who basically admitted the same thing. Many of these women are barely even capable of orgasm. They're having a lot of shitty sex for really questionable reasons.

I see these women as pathetic rather than "whores". Have some fucking self-respect.
Maybe it's about trying every wacky thing under the sun in hopes that something will work? Then retroactively saying "it wasn't me, it was him" when it doesn't. Because if good sex was easy for her, why not just stick with the first decent guy she could get her hands on rather than constantly looking towards the next fling?
 
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How would you know if a woman slept around unless you have been stalking her or keeping tabs on all her boyfriends? If she flat out tells you she goes home with a different dude every weekend, that's one thing, but most of what you know will be only assumptions and rumors.

A lot of loose women have other attributes that are a red flag that are easily spotted well before the issue of sexual history comes up:

Stupid tattoos
Piercings (besides traditional earrings in the ear lobes)
Being a single mother
Bitching about her financial/legal/mental/medical issues (even before social media was a thing, it amazed me how women would surrender personal info like this to someone they just met)

None of that shit is attractive and the fact that she fucks anything that moves doesn't even enter the equation before a guy mentally NOPES and tells her he needs to take a piss and then goes to another bar. But, of course, these women think they are being rejected by the top-tier men (incels and thirsty omegas are invisible to them) because of their sexual pasts and not the fact that a top-tier man can choose better women, usually a lot better.
 
Why do these women care so much what other people think of them? If you really enjoy sleeping around and being a ho and you believe it empowers you so much than why care what other people have to say? Do they want a badge or something?
 
Having sex as a woman is easy and can be done on command.

Having sex as a dude requires me lying to bitches that I can bench-press my truck and that I am a multi-millionaire playboy. The jealousy is understandable to some degree. But then you gotta remember these women also have to deal with periods and never being funny, so I suppose it's a fair trade-off.
 
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