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Joshuan Moon said:
This really isn't the case. There is a concept called "defensive display" which is actually how most self defense with a firearm occurs.

An assailant is in the process of doing something warranting deadly force. The victim draws to defend themselves and the assailant sees the gun come out and disengages choosing to end the threat himself. You aren't requires to murder the fleeing/not a threat anymore person and you were still in reasonable fear for your life.

A small number of states have statutes that codify defensive display (you're explicitly allowed to warn someone you're armed, show them the gun, and shout "we will defend ourselves, stay back" before the threat even is imminent) but as a rule it's not always illegal to draw a gun and not shoot the person. It's more like a good guideline to avoid getting needlessly/maliciously prosecuted than a rule.

As I understand it the historic crime of brandishing is more akin to recklessly waiving a gun around so as to put the general public at harm, not really just having the gun visible or unholstered in view of the public. That is more of a colloquial definition. Honestly I don't know if it's actually a named crime anywhere these days. Boogie's actions do meet that definition of brandishing but as you can see his crime is AA, not brandishing.
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Yes. The act of firing escalated it from brandishing to AA.
 
alsal said:
if he takes any kind of plea boogie himself will be admitting his actions were criminal so as you has consistently said he did nothing wrong and in fact tries to portray himself as a victim i would be very surprised if he took a plea and admits he was guilty of a crime,
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I'd be amazed if there's anything he wouldn't do, other than stop eating, to stay out of jail.
 
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I mean... bit more than that...like shooting a warning shot next to a school.
 
AnOminous said:
Did he, though? Boogie has made contradictory claims about that, claiming they were in a safe, that he didn't have access to it, that he did have access to it, but was it actually in a safe?
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I need to rewatch it but I feel fairly confident that chad hands him the gun before he goes out with it. I'll check but there's a quote of like. "And i just pull the trigger and its good?" And i don't think he was talking to the repairman.
 
sadbird said:
Also that weapon would be considered stolen. Very bad either way.
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Doubtful. If you are both legal adult residents of the same household, it's usually presumed that you have legal access to it. This is why in several states felons can't get away with 'it's my wife's gun collection' as an excuse to have them when you were legally precluded from having them.
 
RedZaku said:
I need to rewatch it but I feel fairly confident that chad hands him the gun before he goes out with it. I'll check but there's a quote of like. "And i just pull the trigger and its good?" And i don't think he was talking to the repairman.
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I was wrong its, "Is it cocked and ready? Its Just pull the trigger?" With who could only be chad replying. I think its interesting on the angle of Chads involvement in bringing a fucking gun into the mix in the first place.
This is a rip of the storyfire I think. https://youtu.be/4uUf0WeSvck
timestamp 22:49
 
sfc1976 said:
Is there the potential that his alt accounts were preemptively made by boogie/his lawyer to try and show proof of what a good character he is? Like they knew that he might end up in court over the warning shot so started sowing evidence? A lot of the Twitter comments go along the lines of "you are such a great person even though you had such a troubled past etc" and some directly refer to his haters/Frank.\
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I don't see how this would change the facts of the case in the slightest. People go on and on about the podcasts and shit he said before the episode, but those don't really matter either. The worst part for Boogie is Hassle recorded the whole thing. I am not a lawyer (though I have watched a lot of Judge Judy) so I'll stop there.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up without a felony conviction either due to successful completion of a probation deal, or some kind of mental health diversion.

If nobody actually gets hurt/molested/raped and you're not selling hard drugs you can generally keep your first felony from hitting your record. The punishment is the process
 
when he was getting processed, they will ask "any tattoos".

Boogers points at his pacman tattoo.

Intake officer notes '3/4 cheese wheel'.
 
Sorry to armchair Lawyer againt but was doing a bit of reading for Arkansas law.

"The duty to retreat DOES NOT APPLY if you are in your own dwelling or on the curtilage surrounding your dwelling and you were not the original aggressor. That includes when the dwelling is also shared by the victim. See Thomas v. State, 266 Ark. 162, 583 S.W.2d 32 Ark., 1979"

So it would seem Boogie had no duty to retreat into his house.

Re: firing in the air. I can't find much law on firing warning shots as it relates to Arkansas specifically. Still don't think he will see jail time for it though.
 
a dinosaur said:
He's already been released. Only took about three hours.
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Stupid motherfucker tried to look like a tough guy in front of some internet troll, and the only thing that gave him was a fucking record.

Lesson learned: if you're being harassed, and your internet troll shows up on your property calling you a pussy and a bitch, stop playing internet tough guy and call the fucking cops.
 
Let's Love Lain said:
"The duty to retreat DOES NOT APPLY if you are in your own dwelling or on the curtilage surrounding your dwelling and you were not the original aggressor. That includes when the dwelling is also shared by the victim. See Thomas v. State, 266 Ark. 162, 583 S.W.2d 32 Ark., 1979"

So it would seem Boogie had no duty to retreat into his house.

Re: firing in the air. I can't find much law on firing warning shots as it relates to Arkansas specifically. Still don't think he will see jail time for it though.
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I can find what a DA thinks about firing a bullet into the air pretty easily.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't boogie answering the door with a gun drawn on the person's head be the initial act of aggression in this case? What would the "original aggression" be from Frank in this case? Knocking on Boogie's door?
 
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