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JimmerSnail said:
Also what the hell is up with Jen and mods always talking about being depressed, feeling down, suiciding and shit?
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Probably already been responded to, but Jen had a tendency to frequently attention seek about having bipolar disorder. I remember her bringing it up like every 20 minutes during her Psychonauts stream. She used to do the same in discord constantly too to get asspats.
 
heavycream said:
Probably already been responded to, but Jen had a tendency to frequently attention seek about having bipolar disorder. I remember her bringing it up like every 20 minutes during her Psychonauts stream. She used to do the same in discord constantly too to get asspats.
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If memory serves, her mental issues are what caused her to largely stop streaming. I don't think she was attention-seeking so much as SEVERELY oversharing - it became really common in the early-mid 2010s for teenagers and young adults to be very candid about all of their personal business, so I wouldn't be surprised if Jen was a product of that era and just never put it together that it was a bit TMI. I don't think it's wrong to talk about mental illness openly, since there is definitely a stigma around it and a lot of people suffer in silence without knowing what's wrong with them - but it's definitely not the kind of thing you want to still be doing as a public figure, and I think she didn't really grasp that lesson quickly enough.

I also completely agree that Jen's streams were heavily bogged down by that kind of thing, since her mental health problems are all I remember her talking about. The only video I've ever liked Jen in was the old highlight of their Cry of Fear Co-op group stream, which has no reference to any of that sort of thing (that I can recall). And speaking of oversharing...

Bungus Scrungus said:
I'm glad Vinny got included in the credits for Spelunky 2. He has his shitty aspects, but he's a genuinely good dude who I'd take a bullet for. I personally think people who think poorly of themselves; even if it's not justified, tend to be good people. Shows that in spite of bad things that may have happened to them, they didn't let it make them a spiteful, vain, egotistical person, even if it would have made sense for them to do so. Linked clip is related. https://www.twitch.tv/vinesauce/clip/DistinctConcernedBaconDatSheffy
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I don't mean to be a (most dumbest) bitch, but I think you've fallen into the same trap Vinny was describing in this highlight. Unless you do know Vinny personally - and if so, what are you doing here? :story: - your opinion of him as a person is only based on the way he portrays himself. I don't disagree that he seems like a nice dude, but to say that he is unarguably a good person because he has a negative opinion of himself seems a little silly. Plenty of people ARE shitty people and resent themselves for it; the two things aren't mutually exclusive.

That said, this clip actually feels a little bit more telling than I think he meant it to be. I haven't heard Vinny talk like this in years, and straight up telling chat that he doesn't think very highly of himself and that they "can't save him from himself" was... odd, and a little perturbing. It's no secret that he's dealt with mental health issues over the years, he's been very upfront about that, but this moment just felt weirdly revealing. He did mention in a previous stream that quarantine was getting to him a bit, so I wonder if that's part of why he just let that slip out without stopping himself like he usually does. Pretty interesting little moment.
 
Vinny's been self-deprecating for a long time. He doesn't want people to put him on a pedestal and even mentioned on stream at one point that sometimes he feels like he's doing something wrong subconsciously because he's so used to having people in chat or in email criticize him over random things. And he's his own worse critic sometimes.
Also, maybe I mentioned way back, but the reason Vinny doesn't want people to put him on a pedestal or give him asspats over being an ideal content creator is because he's probably made some very human mistakes in the past.

Even if a bunch of people(whether it be fans or friends)tried to re-assure him about the way he feels, that's a battle he's gonna have to go at alone.
 
Most Dumbest Bitch said:
I don't mean to be a (most dumbest) bitch, but I think you've fallen into the same trap Vinny was describing in this highlight. Unless you do know Vinny personally - and if so, what are you doing here? :story: - your opinion of him as a person is only based on the way he portrays himself. I don't disagree that he seems like a nice dude, but to say that he is unarguably a good person because he has a negative opinion of himself seems a little silly. Plenty of people ARE shitty people and resent themselves for it; the two things aren't mutually exclusive.

That said, this clip actually feels a little bit more telling than I think he meant it to be. I haven't heard Vinny talk like this in years, and straight up telling chat that he doesn't think very highly of himself and that they "can't save him from himself" was... odd, and a little perturbing. It's no secret that he's dealt with mental health issues over the years, he's been very upfront about that, but this moment just felt weirdly revealing. He did mention in a previous stream that quarantine was getting to him a bit, so I wonder if that's part of why he just let that slip out without stopping himself like he usually does. Pretty interesting little moment.
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I know that, and I guess I could have phrased it better, but I'm just tired of thinking the worst of people. I think it's a bit silly personally to say that you can't know somebody, at least a little, after watching enough of their stuff. You even proved as much with the latter part of your response. He slips. He reveals things. Streaming for 10 years and not expecting people to know how you are as a person at least a bit is crazy. God's sake, during that old CS:GO highlight on Joel's channel, he responds to someone saying how smoking is bad and he just pretty much goes "I'm going to die anyways, what does it matter if I die sooner?".

Also, to not divulge too much personal information; a family member of mine made some poor, bad mistakes prior in their life. Mistakes they had to pay over 10 years in prison for. They didn't let that make them a worse person. They improved from their mistakes. In my eyes, they personify redemption. They passed away last year, so maybe that's why my views on people have shifted even more towards thinking positively, as opposed to negatively. I don't think there aren't plenty of shitty people in the world, but I don't want to hold things against people for stuff they've clearly moved on from or regret deeply.
 
HelGarmr said:
Also, maybe I mentioned way back, but the reason Vinny doesn't want people to put him on a pedestal or give him asspats over being an ideal content creator is because he's probably made some very human mistakes in the past.
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You have to wonder just how popular Vinny thought his streams would get, if he even thought it would take off at all (thanks /v!). Especially with how much his demographic has changed in the past 3 years and how prevalent cancel culture is these days, that kind of anxiety of people digging up the past would freak me out too. Is he a shitty person for using /v actively as recently as (maybe) 5 years ago? Nah. Is he shitty for calling people f*gs and using the n-word sparingly in older videos/streams? A bit dumb, but not enough to say he's a shitty racist homophobe in our current year. He's just a dude that wants to play his Nintendos and make music, and has probably had to grow up a lot quicker because of his audience and threats he gets in his emails bc of those things he said and did in the past.

Bungus Scrungus said:
He slips. He reveals things. Streaming for 10 years and not expecting people to know how you are as a person at least a bit is crazy.
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It would be interesting to see how Vinny's presence online would've taken off if he hadn't been so open with his identity so many years ago. Had he gone the Cr1tiKaL and shown no face or hinted that he lived on Staten Island or anything, I wonder if he'd be more relevant than he is currently, or be another Joowz/Capicoli scenario of getting 100 viewers at most during a stream. Though I'll say, having Vin divulge into weird Catholic school stories or talk about music he likes makes the stream a lot more cozy and personable, which I do enjoy a lot.

With that said, I don't know him all too great, along with most of us that are posting on here (with the exception of a few e-girl cameos). One thing i've noticed about this community since late 2010 and onward is that people still have this secret club mentality about Vinesauce, despite Vinny and Joel being pretty out there in popularity. People get super protective about them and think they have some sort of stake in the streams + community because of how long they've been around, which is definitely not good. Am I personally guilty of that? Sure. There's definitely some attachment towards the streamers and the comfort they've brought to me during my adolescence, but I probably wouldn't risk my life for any of them since they're still strangers to me. They show the best parts of their personality every time they stream, and I don't expect them to act the same in person as they do on stream. God knows how freaky it would be to walk into a deli and hear someone say SPEEEEEN from behind me as I'm paying for my food.

Basically streamers are still people and not our friends and make the same dumb choices we all do. They owe us nothing and don't deserve to be put on pedestals for what they choose to put out there.
 
Self depreciation or not, I'd put up a fight as well to avoid being put in a "owo markiplier is the best unproblmatic twoober honeybunny blah blah blah" box.

Vinny says "cunt" at least once a week for god sakes, what channel are these people actually watching?
 
AbyssStarer said:
Did Vin do anything other than ~~be an influencer~~ to get his name in the credits of Spelunky 2?
I hate the term, but I do have to admit I bought a couple games over the years after watching his streams.
Also: Vin confirms that the Lego season of Vinesauce is over once he builds the NES, hope he keeps to that. I can hear the disappointment in himself anytime he said something like "it's ok at my age to build Lego."



https://youtube.com/watch?v=fVZO4XiFdbETLDW; "hopefully somebody else picks it up, it was good."
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nah it was during his 7 days to die stream, he found out live

also i luled pretty hard to that chat member a moment ago who seemed to be seething video game music wasnt in vinnys top 100, would be hilarious if they were the one who asked the inital music question, as one of the mods pointed out they expected game music for some reason. oracle of ages stream for context
 
Then he read in chat that civvie played the game he was playing and immediately was like WELP ENOUGH OF THAT MOVING ON.

civvie and vin have beef? since whent do either of them beef in any direction? I've only ever heard people hate at ggmanlives in shooter fandom youtube.

am confuse
 
GhostButt said:
Then he read in chat that civvie played the game he was playing and immediately was like WELP ENOUGH OF THAT MOVING ON.

civvie and vin have beef? since whent do either of them beef in any direction? I've only ever heard people hate at ggmanlives in shooter fandom youtube.

am confuse
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I haven't watched the stream nor am I too familiar with civvie, but how do you know that they have beef from that comment? Did he sound angry or say something passive aggressive against civvie afterwards, or something like that? He most likely is just snapping at chat for spamming something like he does sometimes, except tonight he chose to do it in the most bitch way possible and stopped playing the game.

If he really does has beef, then I'm like you and curious as hell as what happened between them. 🤔
 
Vlinny Chan said:
If he really does has beef, then I'm like you and curious as hell as what happened between them.
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If there is something, its not between them, just sounded like not thrilled about that dudes name, like maybe he has a bad rep. I have no idea how any of these personalities are perceived outside of their own communities, so these things are confusing to me. Like how we all know 'Zilla 1998 with Matthew Broderick is not popular and we know why.
 
almost forgot, since it's not really celebrated around here, but it's almost Halloween season!! My favourite season. Really looking forward to Vinny playing some spooky games. hope y'all will have fun this spooky season and the coof won't ruin it for you ❤

Bungus Scrungus said:
What the actual fuck? Vinny's not the type to bring that shit up in public. And in such a vague way, too. He's been acting seriously weird the past week or so.
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he seems kinda stressed.
 
sounds more like he didnt want to hear that this obscure game he found and wanted to show to people was already done by someone else
 
Aquinas said:
sounds more like he didnt want to hear that this obscure game he found and wanted to show to people was already done by someone else
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Maybe, or maybe one of his many mods (code for friends) got into an argument with Civvie, so he feels like he has to back them up, which would be weird, if it turns out the reason as to why was because of risque humor on Civvie's part; considering Vinny has associated with Oney and others who have done content or make jokes that would cause some of chat to lose their shit.
 
even then i'd doubt it in regards to friend or whatnot, and i'd hardly consider Civvie's jokes Risque, since its mostly video game jokes, jokes about himself being abused, or cancer mouse, which is played to mock those sort of people as being cancer.

i'd be more understanding if it was sseth or @Bombastic Blake
 
Aquinas said:
i'd hardly consider Civvie's jokes Risque, since its mostly video game jokes, jokes about himself being abused, or cancer mouse, which is played to mock those sort of people as being cancer.
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Erm... didn't Vinny's mother pass from some form of cancer? Isn't that why the charity streams generally go to cancer-related research?

Perhaps that's a stretch, but if this guy is commonly making cancer jokes, it's not that hard to see why Vinny might take issue with it. I know he did codify the Terminal 7 thing, but he hasn't made that kind of joke in a long time, so I wouldn't be surprised if he considers that sort of thing in bad taste now.
 
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