Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[MarineTrainedTard]

lmao "America wasn't a shithole pre-1880, they just had no medicine, no standard of hygiene, 10 year olds forced to work 16 hour days for poverty wages, and if you got your hand cut off by the press at work, you got fired and your family would starve to death and the rate of women dying during childbirth was 200x the rate today"

You're a fucking retard

 

[T_Holygrail_Jesuschrist 2]

BoxerWars, its InfoWars except there is no Alex Jones and all the info on there is sourced from James Garcia

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

lmao "America wasn't a shithole pre-1880, they just had no medicine, no standard of hygiene, 10 year olds forced to work 16 hour days for poverty wages, and if you got your hand cut off by the press at work, you got fired and your family would starve to death"

You're a fucking retard

So when will he say that the great depression was due to feminism?

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Boxy, aren't you ignoring me? Why are you re-re-rating my posts, if you are? Your autism is showing more than usual.

Because he's a dribbling spastic with little or no impulse control. Both good reasons why he shouldn't be around women or kids, tbh.

Imagine being so autistic you can't grasp the fluidity of human language and think one word has one concrete, definite meaning, and nothing else

Imagine being unable to grasp the fluidity of human language and thinking you'll be a revolutionary writer and leader

I'm still on the fence about whether or not he's ESL, his English is appalling, something I'd expect to see from an impaired middleschooler. You say "imagine" but I don't think Boxcar has the emotional depth to use his imagination. He's so mad at the world that (to him) is denying him all the things he thinks he should have, that his only responses are fuelled by his insecure, incel, manlet-rage.

More then a penny is too much imo. Finding a random blunt object to break his skull open can be free depending on the circumstance.

This... This is a job for fists. Quite apart from the atavistic pleasure that comes from giving someone "the treatment" and going full-blown caveman, it'd take longer for him to expire.

Alright @BoxerShorts47 refuses to tell me how he intends to be deported so I ask everyone in this thread, how would you deport this pedo half flip half kike all faggot of a manlet out of your country? You can suggest anything you want, how and where do you deport Boxy?

Edit: Whichever deportation method I like the most by tomorrow morning will get the treasured sticker

I'd give him to the parents/members of one of the support groups for abused children, personally. I doubt there'd be enough left to bury. Deported to the afterlife, therein to burn forever (and probably whinge about how nice Hell was before all the feminists and libs ruined it).

 

[Big Bad Wart]

BoxerWars, its InfoWars except there is no Alex Jones and all the info on there is sourced from James Garcia

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

This... This is a job for fists. Quite apart from the atavistic pleasure that comes from giving someone "the treatment" and going full-blown caveman, it'd take longer for him to expire.

Gross I have to touch this ape man? I'd rather waste the bullet.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

Use a stick.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

This is different than lowering than age of consent Serious relationship does not equal sex. Marriage and relationships are multifaceted you seem to have wrap views of them that leads you to think that because you can have a "serious relationship" you can have sex.

If a 19 yr old wants to get into a relationship without sex with a 15 yr old would he be called a pedophile. yes or no?
Again of consent doesn't just limit sex. it limits relationships period through social taboos. same way sexual harassment laws or civil rights change what people can say or do beyond the scope of the laws.

When did I argue for teaching kids trangenderism, sex ed, or denying christians the ability to teach their version of evolution. Grooming is not brainwashing even by your own definition previously stated.

grooming and parenting are the same concepts. semantics.

No it doesn't stop these relationship because it labeled pedophilia it because society understands the huge difference in development between 14 year old and 19 year olds and the inherently toxic nature of this relatioship. People call it pedophilia because like a said before they see no reason do distinguish between the pedophillia and hebophillia..

Again this is total bullshit.
1. No one is saying a 19 yr old isn't more mature than 14. same way as 24 vs 19 or 31 vs 24.
2. You're still saying a 14 yr old is mature enough to engage in sex with a 15 yr old. So you're not preventing sex or relationships between 14 yr olds. So you're pulling this out of your ass as a desperate attempt to cuck me.
3. People don't distinguish between race or ethnicity because of social condition nor do they distinguish between child,minor,underage. Same concept as different cultures have different numbers of primary colors. People used to distinguish between child and teenager, now they don't. purely social conditioning.

Again you're completely misrepresenting the position. You support casual sex aka sex before marriage, when people are inexperienced. You support grooming kids to have sex in middle and high school through sex ed. You support sexualizing kids through Hollywood. You support all of this, the only thing is you believe that it's better for 15 yrs to have sex with each other vs 18 yr old because for some reason you think that's "less harmful" Your position is pure crap.

I want to get rid of sexualizing kids. i want to put hate speech (decency laws) back in place. I want to decriminalize relationships that are more likely to lead to marriage.

You have the standard western liberal moral inversion.

 

[Pope Fucker]

people in USA could marry 10-12 yr olds before 1880. Was USA a shithole back then?

That doesn't answer my question. Why is the Middle East the way it is when they share your beliefs about women? Shouldn't men be living like gods over there?

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

That doesn't answer my question. Why is the Middle East the way it is when they share your beliefs about women? Shouldn't men be living like gods over there?

Probably has something to do with religion considering that Boxy is an atheist.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

That doesn't answer my question. Why is the Middle East the way it is when they share your beliefs about women? Shouldn't men be living like gods over there?

age of consent isn't the only factor. I've never claimed that lowering age of consent will fix all problems but it would help in fixing the marriage-rate issue.

 

[Swiss46]

age of consent isn't the only factor. I've never claimed that lowering age of consent will fix all problems but it would help in fixing the marriage-rate issue.

No you just wanna fuck kids. Make as many convoluted excuses in your head for why it's the right thing to do, but remember we all know your real motives.
Edit: spelling

 

[Big Bad Wart]

If a 19 yr old wants to get into a relationship without sex with a 15 yr old would he be called a pedophile. yes or no?
Again of consent doesn't just limit sex. it limits relationships period through social taboos. same way sexual harassment laws or civil rights change what people can say or do beyond the scope of the laws.

Probably yes like I said colloquially(Local parlance) it has been decided to not differentiate between pedophile,hebophiles, or ephiles(can I borrow you pedo thesaurus can't remeber the phrases half the time). That is not because the age of consent both the age of consent and romantic relationship are illegal and looked down upon because people see the difference in maturation especially in the teen years where humans developed the fastest. The realization of our society of the difference in maturity between these two come before the legal limits imposed.

grooming and parenting are the same concepts. semantics.

So parenting=grooming=brainwashing?

Again this is total bullshit.
1. No one is saying a 19 yr old isn't more mature than 14. same way as 24 vs 19 or 31 vs 24.
2. You're still saying a 14 yr old is mature enough to engage in sex with a 15 yr old. So you're not preventing sex or relationships between 14 yr olds. So you're pulling this out of your ass as a desperate attempt to cuck me.
3. People don't distinguish between race or ethnicity because of social condition nor do they distinguish between child,minor,underage. Same concept as different cultures have different numbers of primary colors. People used to distinguish between child and teenager, now they don't. purely social conditioning.

Again you're completely misrepresenting the position. You support casual sex aka sex before marriage, when people are inexperienced. You support grooming kids to have sex in middle and high school through sex ed. You support sexualizing kids through Hollywood. You support all of this, the only thing is you believe that it's better for 15 yrs to have sex with each other vs 18 yr old because for some reason you think that's "less harmful" Your position is pure crap.

I want to get rid of sexualizing kids. i want to put hate speech (decency laws) back in place. I want to decriminalize relationships that are more likely to lead to marriage.

You have the standard western liberal moral inversion.

1.I am not saying you didn't im explaining why this law exist.you seem to take me explaining the reasoning of something as me supporting it.
2.No I'm not saying that at all and neither is the law I'm just engaging in your weird hypothetical
3.But they do because Race has long since stopped being skin color which is the biological deciding factor which used to drive it and has moved to be pure ideology.Ethnicity is distinguished by where by perceived similarities not your genetics which is biological. Having different culture being different doesn't mean shit when where here talking about your positions specifically.

I literally have not advocated for any position yet I have tried my hardest to not advocate anything yet you seem to think I have I'm not the your boogeyman. Hate speech is not decency laws those would fall in line with PC laws more than anything else.Hate speech is the use of discriminating speech targeting minorities.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Gross I have to touch this ape man? I'd rather waste the bullet.

Wear gloves, my dude. I wouldn't want this subhuman baboon's bodily fluids on my hands, either. It'd make me too much like his fat mom. Boxcar! Does your mom wash her hands before making your friend chicken or is she just up in that kitchen with Boxy-brand snail-trails all over her hands?

 

[Non-Threatening Niall]

So, at great personal risk, I've managed to get ahold of a couple sample pages of Boxay's upcoming manifesto.

Spoiler: Fittingly, it will be a colouring book.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Probably yes like I said colloquially(Local parlance) it has been decided to not differentiate between pedophile,hebophiles, or ephiles(can I borrow you pedo thesaurus can't remeber the phrases half the time). That is not because the age of consent both the age of consent and romantic relationship are illegal and looked down upon because people see the difference in maturation especially in the teen years where humans developed the fastest. The realization of our society of the difference in maturity between these two come before the legal limits imposed.


So parenting=grooming=brainwashing?


1.I am not saying you didn't im explaining why this law exist.you seem to take me explaining the reasoning of something as me supporting it.
2.No I'm not saying that at all and neither is the law I'm just engaging in your weird hypothetical
3.But they do because Race has long since stopped being skin color which is the biological deciding factor which used to drive it and has moved to be pure ideology.Ethnicity is distinguished by where by perceived similarities not your genetics which is biological. Having different culture being different doesn't mean shit when where here talking about your positions specifically.

I literally have not advocated for any position yet I have tried my hardest to not advocate anything yet you seem to think I have I'm not the your boogeyman. Hate speech is not decency laws those would fall in line with PC laws more than anything else.Hate speech is the use of discriminating speech targeting minorities.

1. Dictionary not a thesaurus.
2. Lying. There is no guarantee an 18 yr old is more mature than a 14 yr old. And you didn't haven't explained why 16 or 18 is mature but 15 or 17 is not. You have no argument to actually support your claim that 18 is the magic maturity. You're using this maturity argument to backwards rationalize the status quo without any data to prove your age and if we did use data than age of consent would be 25, not 18.
3. If age of consent didn't exist, people would be perfectly fine with relationships that were perfectly acceptable in the past. Even after age of consent, it wasn't fully enforced until ~1990s. Pure social conditioning. That's why people often break age of consent "omg dude she told me she was 14."

Hate speech is anything that triggers someone.

 

[Pope Fucker]

age of consent isn't the only factor. I've never claimed that lowering age of consent will fix all problems but it would help in fixing the marriage-rate issue.

Why do you think that lowering the age of consent will lead to more people marrying? Most guys under 20 aren't thinking about marriage and aren't prepared to provide for a family.

I want to decriminalize relationships that are more likely to lead to marriage.

Are you going to make it illegal for them to fuck till their wedding night?

 

[BoxerShorts47]

.Hate speech is the use of discriminating speech targeting minorities.

Also this sentence shows how you literally don't even understand the meaning of these words.
1. Discriminating is a verb, not an adjective, no such thing as "discrimination speech."
2. "Targeting minorities" is a loaded phrase and a mischaracterization. "targeting" is negative spin to "holding accountable." Most of these groups are foreigners and they are the majority in their own nations. You want them to see weak and defenseless.
3. A this point protecting "minority rights" is moot because you'll never protect whites when we become a minority.

Why do you think that lowering the age of consent will lead to more people marrying? Most guys under 20 aren't thinking about marriage and aren't prepared to provide for a family.

because putting women into pump and dump relationships which is the norm leads to people spending their 20s as an extended childhood to fix themselves. best to put people on a path to marriage by avoid this "phase." Yes we need to change society to make it easier for men to become men. That has to do with educational reforms.

Are you going to make it illegal for them to fuck till their wedding night?

You mean put back anti-seduction laws? idk, I wouldn't be that strict but preferably yes.

 

[Fareal]

Also this sentence shows how you literally don't even understand the meaning of these words.
1. Discriminating is a verb, not an adjective, no such thing as "discrimination speech."
2. "Targeting minorities" is a loaded phrase and a mischaracterization. "targeting" is negative spin to "holding accountable." Most of these groups are foreigners and they are the majority in their own nations. You want them to see weak and defenseless.
3. A this point protecting "minority rights" is moot because you'll never protect whites when we become a minority.


because putting women into pump and dump relationships which is the norm leads to people spending their 20s as an extended childhood to fix themselves. best to put people on a path to marriage by avoid this "phase." Yes we need to change society to make it easier for men to become men. That has to do with educational reforms.


You mean put back anti-seduction laws? idk, I wouldn't be that strict but preferably yes.

Uh, actual men, as opposed to failures with XY chromosome, are becoming men without anyone’s help. You want a special ed class for subnormal males. Natural selection, mate; you are very keen on it right up until you realised you had been selected out.

 

[Big Bad Wart]

1. Dictionary not a thesaurus.

It was a joke saying trying to imply they are all the same.

2. Lying. There is no guarantee an 18 yr old is more mature than a 14 yr old. And you didn't haven't explained why 16 or 18 is mature but 15 or 17 is not. You have no argument to actually support your claim that 18 is the magic maturity.

Again I am not here to argue about this you seem to equate 18 year olds fucking 14 years olds to your argument about lowering the age of consent to whenever a child hit puberty.

You're using this maturity argument to backwards rationalize the status quo without any data to prove your age and if we did use data than age of consent would be 25, not 18.

No It would not even if the frontal lobe is not fully developed until 25 in most people the age of consent would still be around where we see it today because the brain although not fully mature it has generally matured enough to make rational decision that take into account future consequences.

3. If age of consent didn't exist, people would be perfectly fine with relationships that were perfectly acceptable in the past. Even after age of consent, it wasn't fully enforced until ~1990s. Pure social conditioning. That's why people often break age of consent "omg dude she told me she was 14."

Why was it social conditioning know and not then? because you think that your own urge is natural?. You seem to call everything against you social conditioning by feminist like Alt-right people tell anyone that against them they are brainwashed by Jews.