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Harvey Danger said:
A double whammy of news out of St Louis that might spark some extremely peaceful protests.

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Missouri AG intervenes in case against St. Louis couple who defended their home with guns

Mark McCloskey claims that protesters began making threats towards him and his wife. He went inside and retrieved a pistol and what appeared to be an AR-15.
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Missouri AG intervenes in case against St. Louis couple who defended their home with guns


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TL;DR the state AG is stepping in to overrule the local prosecutor and moving to get the charges dismissed, which will probably happen but charges haven't technically been dropped yet.

But hey, those charges got a lot further than in the next case...

Prosecutor: No charges for officer in Michael Brown’s death



Three times they've found there's not enough evidence to pursue murder or even manslaughter against the (former) cop who killed the "hands up don't shoot" Gentle Giant. But that won't stop the left from throwing some casual racism around themselves:



Oops! They accidentally got an honest, competent black man instead of the expected diversity hire. Start the countdown until BLM are outside his house, screaming racial slurs.
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Michael Brown was guilty as sin and the killing was clearly justified, even Obama's DOJ agreed with the Ferguson police and the evidence they gathered and witnesses they questioned that they determined not to be lying sacks of shit. HAND'S UP DON'T SHOOT didn't even happen it was made up by Brown's buddy that was with him when they robbed the convenience store to try the sell the "He was a good boy, he dindu nuffin" narrative.

Brown turned around, charged at the cop and the cop put him down plus he had just assaulted the cop and tried to steal his firearm which resulted in him getting shot in the hand and fleeing from the officer. They even found GSR on Brown's hands indicating that his hand was near the gun when the cop fired it which matched the officers account of having to fight Brown for control of the gun.


It's 86 pages long but if anyone wants to look at it there it is.
 
introvertedobserver said:
Wonder how that plays with Posse Comitatus Act since that one came later and only restricts the Army and Air Force specifically, and seems semi-redundant.
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Looks like the US Military (or just Northern Command, which area of responsibly includes the continental US + AK) considers the Insurrection Act as an exception to the Act as it was an act of congress thus " except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, " is fulfilled.
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Getting tard comed said:
But why should he though?
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To enforce the laws that he is chiefly responsible for enforcing.

DanteAlighieri said:
Okay but the milk and OK hand symbol were gay ops and they still got memed into "reality".
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Both of those were before 4chan was entirely subverted. Now every single thread is watched and trolled by assloads of reddit, twitter, and government shills.
 
Gnostic American said:
Seems to me the riots are promoted to remove the focus on other more important issues, mainly economic.
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It's an exhaust valve. A pretend problem that they can "solve" by just doing what they've been doing anyway (more gibs, more government).

They know that people are going crazy and getting broke from the lockdowns, and all they while, they've been shoveling money into their friends' bank accounts at every turn.
 
The Shadow said:
The problem is, we don't teach the World Wars as world wars, we teach them as "what has Hollywood made interesting movies about lately" so they can show Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List and the teacher can take multiple days off showing films. When we learned about WWII in school the Pacific Campaign was glossed over in about 5 minutes with "Pearl Harbor was attacked so we nuked Japan" basically. The Mediterranean campaign didn't get mentioned at all, nor did what was going on in China or Burma. Russia only got mentioned because Stalingrad is really dramatic. Nothing about buzz bombs, no mention of rationing on the homefront but plenty on Japanese internment (yet nothing on the highly decorated 442nd Infantry, composed almost entirely of Americans of Japanese descent because that would necessitate mentioning the Mediterranean campaign).
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GrimProphet said:
When I was still in school we spent more time on the Holocaust than anything else related to WWII. I'd bet most Americans would struggle to name one battle of the Pacific Theater other than Pearl Harbor and maybe Iwo Jima if they saw that one movie. The Eastern Front wasn't even mentioned, the battles in China or India weren't mentioned, the African Campaign wasn't mentioned, it was basically just: "Holocaust, therefore Hitler bad, therefore D-Day and France. Also Pearl Harbor happened so we nuked Japan, but it was BAD." Wanted to hear more about Wake Island, Guadalcanal, Okinawa, or even Stalingrad? Tough shit, here's more bullshit about lampshades and belts made out of Jews. Italy? Who cares? Holocaust.

I hate to say it but as a kid, I probably learned more about WWII from movies and video games than I did in school. And WWI was basically a footnote. We heard plenty about the Holocaust but nothing about the Soviet Union's various purges, famines and mass executions.
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Meat Target said:
I shit you not, I once had a supervisor ask me, "which one was the Hitler war?"

Stalin isn't necessarily lionized, but he's also a footnote. I also had an English teacher tell us that 1984 was actually about what would have happened if Germany had won WWII (even though that's decidedly *not* what happens, as Oceania was created by the US's absorption of the Western hemisphere, the British Isles, Australia, and South Africa). No mention of how the whole book is about a Soviet-style regime in the Anglosphere.
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Local Fed said:
This is virtually my exact experience too. I remember that he had to watch Escape from Sobibor and the opening beach scene from Saving Private Ryan. We had a lot of Holocaust talk and read The Diary of Anne Frank. Some names like Hitler, Mussolini, Churchill and Stalin were brought up but nothing was really in depth about anyone. We actually did watch the Alec Baldwin movie Nuremburg and did a mock trial where half of us had to be the defendants and the other half were the prosecutors which was kind of cool albeit it sort of shallow. WW1 was essentially just being told the name 'Franz Ferdinand' and about the only other thing covered was Vimy Ridge (because Canada).

The only other things we even covered in History classes if I recall correctly had to do with the fur trade (which no one cared about because it's mind numbing how boring of a topic it is) residential schools, the Avrow Arrow and the Komagata Maru.
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Unassuming Local Guy said:
And like everyone else says, my public school telling of WW2 was 90% holocaust, 10% nukes. I'm old enough that the narrative was War Bad rather than Whitey Bad, but the curriculum is the exact same.
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Forgetful Gynn said:
It was sometime in college when I randomly stumbled upon the existence of the Holodomor, and the shock that I had never heard about such a massive genocide at all, despite growing up watching the history channel and having an interest in history, started to make me wonder what else I hadn't been told.

A lot, it turns out.
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GrimProphet said:
Absolutely no mention of any of the Japanese atrocities, all it was for me was: "Japan bad, but America WORSE! Internment camps, nukes, we treated POWs bad too!"
Nothing at all about the Rape of Nanking, the Bataan Death March, Unit 731, Japanese soldiers beheading and prying fingernails of Australian/American POWs, the massive civilian casualties at Okinawa, etc.
The rebuttal for all of this is of course: "Well America never treated POWs very nice either!"
What, because we didn't provide them with goose down pillows and they had to eat Spam instead of caviar? If I'd lived during the 1940s and fought for the Axis and you gave me an option between being captured by Americans or the Japanese, I'd be trying to find some GIs to turn myself in.

Also, nothing mentioned of some of the very valid reasons why the nuclear bombs were justified. If for whatever reason the nuke didn't exist at that point, one of the only ways to stop Japan would have been a massive campaign of firebombing cities [which did happen to an extent as we know] or a total amphibious invasion of the Japanese mainland. I'm sure I don't need to tell anyone why that would have been terrible, and much worse than the result of those two bombings. One can argue about the ethics of nuclear proliferation until the cows come home, but the fact remains that it was the best option to end the Pacific War, and the reasons for this fact you will hardly hear about in school because nuanced education is dead.

Speaking of internment camps, how many Japanese Americans are resentful of that 80 some years later? Not too many, I'd wager, or at least I don't hear about it. You can't say the same for the Jews, or God forbid, black Americans who are still enraged over shit that happened 160 years ago or more. Mostly because I don't believe Japanese Americans [or Asian Americans in general for that matter] are interested in being victims and beating the war drum over old shit.

Likewise, Vietnam was basically skimmed over. Given that I went to school a somewhat long time ago in a shitty district, our textbooks stopped at the Gulf War, which was also skimmed over. Notably absent as well was the Korean War. I have met grown ass adults who graduated high school that knew the Korean War happened, but couldn't tell you WHEN it happened. One guy thought it started in 1972.

It was far more important to educators that we be beaten over the head repeatedly with the Holocaust and the Confederacy rather than giving anyone a robust, well-rounded education in history.
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Moguro Fukuzou said:
hey have to hammer in about WWII and the Holocaust to appease the board behind the history curriculum, one that probably receives a lot of money from interest groups or individuals to make sure their pet topic is taught. That's why you might have times where even if everyone in the room knows the exact talking points about WWII that are going to be used, the teacher has to drone through them anyway with an "I know you guys already know all this, but a gotta go through this," or else it'll cause problems.

If, God forbid, they focus less time on the Holocaust they'd receive a bunch of bitching and hand wringing about it. It's like Canada and sanitized Native history being forced down everyone's throats with "Everyone was singing Kumbaya until the evil Europeans came," and residential schools (which I do think were awful but it's ad nauseam)
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Jet Fuel Johnny said:
Sperging about the education of WW1 and WW2 in school, mind you, this was over 40 years ago, but there is something interesting.

Prior to 1979 even though my family moved around a lot, I got a pretty rounded education on WW1 and WW2. One of the most vivid ways the teacher showed us how WW1 happened is she gave us all slips of paper. She had us roll a die three times. Once, we pulled white slips, those were people in the class we were neutral to. Then we pulled red, those were people in the class we didn't trust and might not like (You could get the same name in red or blue interestingly enough). Then you pull the number of blue ones.

Now, she took us outside, had groups of us be at the jungle gym, another group at the slides, another group at the hopscotch and said: OK, Kimmy was assassinated by Bobby. Who's friends with Kimmy? OK, who's friends with Bobby.

And the whole class devolved into a shitshow.

Then we learned about how it bogged down, how technology shifts created the stalemate as tactics and strategy didn't catch up. Then we learned, as elementary school kids, that it left everything destroyed in Europe (the slides, hopscotch, and jungle gym) while the US, largely Africa, Indochina, China, and Japan (the swings, teeter totter, ect) were all fine.

Then we learned about how the economy was destroyed. She taught this by handing out monopoly money and cranking the price of bread until we were handing out multiple $100 for a loaf of bread.

She asked if someone came up and said "You baby sister gets to live, your mommy and daddy can have food, and your house will be warm and the roof fixed, just sign my petition!" if we would.

Well... duh.

Oops, my class elected Hitler to power.

Then we learned more. How the US was providing war material, how Japan and China were wrestling. We watched a few old black and white movies. Some old guys came into class and talked. One who served in Africa, one in Europe, one in the Pacific, one who worked at home driving trucks coast to coast to move valuable supplies. Then how hundreds of thousands of American troops would have died taking Japan (The Purple Heart medals printed for the amphibious landing of Japan are still given out to this fucking day) and millions of Japanese would have died. How Japan's war crimes were ignored in order to provide the US a Far East ally and base to offset the rapidly growing Soviet Union and Communist China, how Nazi scientists then took part in the Green Revolution and NASA.

We got variants. Discussion of the colonization of America by the European powers, the colonization of Africa, the stripping of South America, on and on, till the Revolutionary War where we learn it was close because some generals tried to fight the British on their own terms. We read Johnny Tremain and stuff like that. I first read that particular book in 3rd Grade and we discussed it in class.

We had problems with New Math and Esperanto and the Metric System, but that was the 70's, baby.

Then... the early 80's happened. Holy shit.

By the mid-80's it was all "MUH JOOZ!" and reading diary of a heeb, Hitler was evil and all germans were evil for summoning him from Hell to punish the Joice, and on and on.

So, what happened?

The establishment of the Department of Education. It immediately shifted focus from actually learning about history (The Code of Hammurabi, Roman Laws, Chinese Dynasties, Japanese Dynasties because these were all tied to World War 2 and the Korean War and the recent Vietnam War) so we could understand how we had been lucky enough to have been born in America at the time we were over to focusing entirely on MUH JOOZ! MUH EBIL GERMANS! MUH MISUNDERSTOOD COMMIES!

The Department of Education raped 40 years worth the education.

Fucking prove me wrong.

Education suddenly shifted focus.
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I'm glad that more and more people are calling out the flaw of History and English classes that keep shoving the holocaust narrative down our throats as propaganda when there is more important things to learn in WWII. Honestly seeing this makes me :optimistic::optimistic::optimistic: that there will be a reform and people will start teaching more broadly about WWII than it just being about HITLER GENOCIDED 6 GORRILION SO AMERICA BEING THE GOOD GUYS WENT TO DESTROY THEM AND NUKE THE EVIL JAPANESE BECAUSE THEY WERE RACIST THREATS TO MUJH FREEDOMS
 
stupidpieceofshit said:
He does not need to ask the governors for permission, he just needs to activate the Insurrection Act.
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How do really think that would play out? What happens when career deep state commanders down the chain of command disobey his orders? Do you think the US military which is now full of diversity and snow flakes would actually fire on US citizens?

Eisenhower didn't have half the country filled with Eisenhower Derangement Syndrome. He didn't have most of the msm shilling against him 24/7. He did have half the federal government actively trying to undermine him. He didn't have multiple governors and big city mayors openly disobeying federal agencies.

The USA is where the USSR was in the late 80s. And when the USA fails I think it's going to unravel a similar way rather then a bloody boog.
 
Jump said:
How do really think that would play out? What happens when career deep state commanders down the chain of command disobey his orders? Do you think the US military which is now full of diversity and snow flakes would actually fire on US citizens?

Eisenhower didn't have half the country filled with Eisenhower Derangement Syndrome. He didn't have most of the msm shilling against him 24/7. He did have half the federal government actively trying to undermine him. He didn't have multiple governors and big city mayors openly disobeying federal agencies.

The USA is where the USSR was in the late 80s.
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Again, I was saying the person who I quoted said "Trump needs the governor's okay to do anything"' was wrong.

I was showing that is not the case.
 
introvertedobserver said:
Wonder how that plays with Posse Comitatus Act since that one came later and only restricts the Army and Air Force specifically, and seems semi-redundant.
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It's a common misconception that the Posse Comitatus Act supplants the Insurrection Act, but in fact, it doesn't.

The actual text of the Act:

"Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Forces as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years or both."

The Insurrection Act is such an express authorization.

stupidpieceofshit said:
Again, I was saying the person who I quoted said "Trump needs the governor's okay to do anything"'
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Needless to say, this is entirely wrong. Not only do federal agencies not need the approval of state governments to enforce federal law, they can do it over the howls and screams of the state governments.
 
Can confirm I grew up after the re-write of history to being 'DA JOOZ, remember the six gorillion goy, mandatory Holocaust class'

US History was basically 'So Murrica fought off the evil huwite Brits doing their evil Empire bit, BUT don't forget that those naughty founding fathers owned slaves!' Jump forward a century to the Civil War 'The north fought off the EVIL HUWITE SOUTH because slavery, and ONLY slavery- and don't dare ask who owned those slave ships!'

Jump to WW1 treated as a footnote to setup WW2. And here is where is all really sets in- the founding myth of the 20th centry the Holocaust! Forget reasons why, who fought, where they fought- All you need to know was six million of God's Chosen were gassed in rooms with wooden doors, and the bodies torched at an impossible rate in furnaces near the Auschwitz prisoner's swimming pool.
The school actually brought in a 'Holocaust survivor' they dredged up from somewhere.

Que a quick bit about the Japanese camps, and how nukes are super evil. After WW2 though things kinda dry out, maybe a mention of Korea- a bit about Vietnam and how war r bad and hippies r good.

Would have loved to have been part of the history classes @Jet Fuel Johnny was in. We never did anything fun, just reading how Jews are always pure innocent beings and whites are the real evil.
 
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Oglooger said:
I'm glad that more and more people are calling out the flaw of History and English classes that keep shoving the holocaust narrative down our throats as propaganda when there is more important things to learn in WWII. Honestly seeing this makes me :optimistic::optimistic::optimistic: that there will be a reform and people will start teaching more broadly about WWII than it just being about HITLER GENOCIDED 6 GORRILION SO AMERICA BEING THE GOOD GUYS WENT TO DESTROY THEM AND NUKE THE EVIL JAPANESE BECAUSE THEY WERE RACIST THREATS TO MUJH FREEDOMS
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Not as long as any deviation from that is considered "anti-semitism".
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Jet Fuel Johnny said:
Sperging about the education of WW1 and WW2 in school, mind you, this was over 40 years ago, but there is something interesting.

Prior to 1979 even though my family moved around a lot, I got a pretty rounded education on WW1 and WW2. One of the most vivid ways the teacher showed us how WW1 happened is she gave us all slips of paper. She had us roll a die three times. Once, we pulled white slips, those were people in the class we were neutral to. Then we pulled red, those were people in the class we didn't trust and might not like (You could get the same name in red or blue interestingly enough). Then you pull the number of blue ones.

Now, she took us outside, had groups of us be at the jungle gym, another group at the slides, another group at the hopscotch and said: OK, Kimmy was assassinated by Bobby. Who's friends with Kimmy? OK, who's friends with Bobby.

And the whole class devolved into a shitshow.

Then we learned about how it bogged down, how technology shifts created the stalemate as tactics and strategy didn't catch up. Then we learned, as elementary school kids, that it left everything destroyed in Europe (the slides, hopscotch, and jungle gym) while the US, largely Africa, Indochina, China, and Japan (the swings, teeter totter, ect) were all fine.

Then we learned about how the economy was destroyed. She taught this by handing out monopoly money and cranking the price of bread until we were handing out multiple $100 for a loaf of bread.

She asked if someone came up and said "You baby sister gets to live, your mommy and daddy can have food, and your house will be warm and the roof fixed, just sign my petition!" if we would.

Well... duh.

Oops, my class elected Hitler to power.

Then we learned more. How the US was providing war material, how Japan and China were wrestling. We watched a few old black and white movies. Some old guys came into class and talked. One who served in Africa, one in Europe, one in the Pacific, one who worked at home driving trucks coast to coast to move valuable supplies. Then how hundreds of thousands of American troops would have died taking Japan (The Purple Heart medals printed for the amphibious landing of Japan are still given out to this fucking day) and millions of Japanese would have died. How Japan's war crimes were ignored in order to provide the US a Far East ally and base to offset the rapidly growing Soviet Union and Communist China, how Nazi scientists then took part in the Green Revolution and NASA.

We got variants. Discussion of the colonization of America by the European powers, the colonization of Africa, the stripping of South America, on and on, till the Revolutionary War where we learn it was close because some generals tried to fight the British on their own terms. We read Johnny Tremain and stuff like that. I first read that particular book in 3rd Grade and we discussed it in class.

We had problems with New Math and Esperanto and the Metric System, but that was the 70's, baby.

Then... the early 80's happened. Holy shit.

By the mid-80's it was all "MUH JOOZ!" and reading diary of a heeb, Hitler was evil and all germans were evil for summoning him from Hell to punish the Joice, and on and on.

So, what happened?

The establishment of the Department of Education. It immediately shifted focus from actually learning about history (The Code of Hammurabi, Roman Laws, Chinese Dynasties, Japanese Dynasties because these were all tied to World War 2 and the Korean War and the recent Vietnam War) so we could understand how we had been lucky enough to have been born in America at the time we were over to focusing entirely on MUH JOOZ! MUH EBIL GERMANS! MUH MISUNDERSTOOD COMMIES!

The Department of Education raped 40 years worth the education.

Fucking prove me wrong.

Education suddenly shifted focus.
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Edit: why the fuck this website save text I deleted. I deleted this whole upper quote and it still shows up in a new reply I did.

I guess a comparison is that in the Middle East, the history they teach is all pro-Islamic conquests and Muslims dindu nuffin wrong and they people needed Islam to save their souls. Nothing about the Arab slave trade or other shit that would make them look bad.

Forgetful Gynn said:
Y'know, I just bet...

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So Carter was the primary advocate, but that's not how these things work, usually it's a congressman or senator who sponsors such a thing...

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Shit like this makes me realize and what Uncle Johnny said is that Reagan was one super useless president when it came to rolling back government functions and looks like starving the beast is a myth created by liberals when they refer to Republicans cutting back on government

Also it coincides with the rise of the neocons who just went all in for the State of Israel and America is a land of immigrants and all that shit lol.

Donald Trump in many aspects is like what people think Reagan was and no wonder the Republicans have a very high rating for him.
 
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stupidpieceofshit said:
I was showing that is not the case
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But sadly, it is.
What's written on paper doesn't matter anymore. That's not the law. Law is now what some rando federal judge in Hawaii says it is.
Kinda like how crimes are no longer crimes when all the DA's refuse to press charges on anyone.

Never give an order you know won't be obeyed. If Trump orders in the military and most of them disobey him then he is all done. It doesn't matter what some Act says.
 
Forgetful Gynn said:
Not as long as any deviation from that is considered "anti-semitism".
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What is your view on David Irving and that one Canadian dude who also was into questioning the Holocaust.

There was also some old ass interview I saw of some guy interviewing a Jew who was talking about how the Jews were really fucking over the Germans prior to the rise of Hitler and it was in France.

There was a lot of Holocaust "denial" stuff I watched during my high school days on YouTube.
 
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