Opinion A Realist’s Guide to Impeachment - Trump should face the consequences of his misdeeds, but the road ahead is perilous.

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An impeachment of President Donald Trump is both deserved and dangerous. That it’s deserved is clear from each day’s news reports. The danger is getting lost in the rush of events.

It’s unlikely that impeachment will find 67 votes in the Senate for removal. The process will almost certainly end with Trump acquitted, and acquitted in a reelection year. The political consequences of acquittal are obviously unpredictable but could be favorable to Trump’s reelection: Trump supporters may be mobilized, Trump opponents demoralized, and Democratic presidential candidates distracted from issues that may be more potent at the voting booth.

Meanwhile, impeachment is likely to do Trump less and less political harm the longer it lasts. As the Trump presidency daily proves, people can get used to anything. This latest Trump scandal led to an impeachment inquiry because it happened so fast—the shock was still fresh. But the Comey firing, the racist tirades, the “if it’s what you say I love it” email—those were all once shocking too. Then they blurred into the avalanche of Trump awfulness. Trump is protected by the sheer number of his high crimes and misdemeanors. He will certainly commit more, and then these latest risk being buried.

Some impeachment advocates compare today’s process to that of 1973–74, when Richard Nixon’s position gradually crumbled. Maybe, but 1973 and ’74 were years of severe economic distress, a losing war in Vietnam, rising crime in U.S. cities, and long lines at gas stations. Nixon headed a party in the minority in both the House and Senate, and a party less cohesive than the Republican Party of today. Once it split over Watergate, he fell. Trump’s party may lose a defector or two, but it won’t split.
So … eyes open. “You come at the king, you best not miss.” How do you incorporate that wisdom into today’s predicament?
Here are some guidelines to impeachment for realists:
1. Keep the story simple. Some have proposed a massive array of inquiries, delving into every facet of Trump’s corruption and abuse of power. This approach ensures a process that goes slow, yields confusing masses of facts, and opens endless opportunities for bad faith excuse-making by Trump and his enablers. Congress is not very good at investigating, and the more investigations Congress pursues, the more it is likely to mire itself in a morass.

Impeachment in the House is above all things an educational exercise for the voting public. Teach them one lesson: Trump betrayed the national-security interests of the United States to smear a political opponent.
2. Be political, not legal. Robert Mueller built a failure machine because he defined his job as punishing crimes rather than discovering the truth. If he found something that was very bad, but not criminal, he ignored it. If he could not establish a crime beyond a reasonable doubt, the criminal got away with it. If the crime was committed by the president, he in effect protected it. Mueller’s logic was amazingly self-defeating: Because the president cannot be indicted, he will never be heard in court; because the president will never be heard in court, it is unfair even to present evidence of crimes that will never be litigated. Impeachment busts out of this ridiculous trap.
[Adam Serwer: Why Republicans aren’t turning on Trump ]
3. Recognize that the opponent is McConnell. Trump is the target of impeachment, but the strategic locus of the impeachment process is Trump’s enabler and defender in the Senate, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. It is McConnell who will set the rules of the trial, McConnell who will determine how long it lasts and which witnesses are heard. McConnell presumably knows better than anybody how guilty Trump is—and for that very reason will work harder than anyone to protect Trump. The first task in a successful process is to shrink McConnell’s options for abusive behavior. That means prying just enough Republican senators loose from McConnell’s grip to create a bloc for fair rules.



4. Break the weakest links. Last night, The Washington Post reported that Trump told visiting Russians in June 2017 that he was unconcerned by their interference in the 2016 election. The Post cited three sources—meaning three officials held this appalling story secret for more than two years. Why did they step forward now? Maybe they think they are about to be fired if the Trump administration starts hunting for internal moles; maybe they didn’t believe, until the Ukraine whistle-blower came forward, that leaking would make any difference; maybe they just wanted to get on the right side before it’s too late.
Regardless, the pressures of impeachment create new incentives for administration officials exposed to job or legal risk. Former Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats resigned without saying anything about what he saw on the job. Before Congress, he may be less reticent. The president’s private emissary, Rudy Giuliani, may be legally exposed as well. He may have things to say. Vice President Mike Pence, who played a role in Trump’s dealings with Ukraine, has important calculations to make about his political future. Trump implicated so many people that not all will stay loyal to the end. Some will crack and speak the truth about the criminality they saw. Identify them.

5. Keep the Democratic presidential candidates far away. Bill Clinton survived his impeachment crisis in 1998–99 in great part because he made the Republicans look sex-obsessed while he focused on his job. President Trump has never focused on anything longer than the time it takes to gulp down a Filet-O-Fish. He will be scandal-obsessed—and he will try to drag his prospective 2020 opponents into the mud with him. Their job is to leave the investigation to Congress—and to talk about health care, jobs, college tuition, the cost of Trump tariffs, and other issues of immediate concern to the pocketbook voters who will or won’t eject Trump from the presidency. Those voters will care whether their president is a disloyal criminal, but they may not care about every detail of his disloyalty and criminality. Leave those details to Congress; the candidates have other duties.
[Peter Beinart: The audacity of desperation ]
Trump’s support has moved within a band from the high 30s to the mid-40s through his presidency, edging sometimes toward the 46 percent he won in 2016. He has nowhere to grow. The 50-plus percent who reject him do so decisively and permanently. But a president backed by even one-third of the nation wields great power. If he can hold a blocking faction in the Senate, he becomes more powerful still. When that one-third backs him despite—or even sometimes because—they know him to be lawless, legality dwindles into an only semi-effective tool against him.
Nobody should have any illusions: Bringing anything like justice to President Trump will be neither easy nor safe. The exposure of Trump’s Ukraine extortion scheme forced impeachment on the country. It could not be ignored, and devices like censure are inadequate. But the days ahead are dark.
 
I’m just wondering why they think impeachment will work this time versus the five other times they tried it. You would think a political movement would realize it wouldn’t work and most people are numb to it, except for Democratic partisans and try to reach out to moderates and disaffected Republicans instead of doing something bound to fail again.
 
Most of the impeachment numbers I’ve heard being reported from the house account for about half the democrats willing to vote for impeachment, meaning there’s about 30% of the House down to kick him out. They report it as about 50% but it seems like they don’t include House Republicans in that math. Has something changed in the last month where every house Dem is on board?

I figure this is part of Null’s requests to make A&H more lefty so I don’t wanna dog pile, but I’ve not seen the MSM’s claim that most of the country is demanding impeachment reflected with polling data. Especially not aggregate polls.

I’m also hearing a lot of, “impeachment is the only way to heal the divide in this country.” What about the 62 million pissed people that voted for Trump in 2016 and watched his opposing party spend 4 years trying to overturn the election instead of passing legislation that democrat voters want (gun control, rent control, medical price fixing, social equity laws that omit the protections of men and Asians, making abortion a law and not a court precedence, abolishing the electoral college, hate speech legislation, making voter ID laws unconstitutional, etc.) Trumps approval is considerably higher than when he was elected, so I have no clue how any of this would improve social tensions. It seems more likely to start civil conflict at worst, or at best, create a cycle where the minority party spends their entire elected term accusing the majority of treason and attempt to imprison them.

The only Republican I ever voted for was Ron Paul, and the only democrat I voted for was Obama’s first term, so I hope this doesn’t make me come off as a Republican bootlicker. I’ve been a registered independent for almost 20 years.
 
I’m also hearing a lot of, “impeachment is the only way to heal the divide in this country.” What about the 62 million pissed people that voted for Trump in 2016 and watched his opposing party spend 4 years trying to overturn the election instead of passing legislation that democrat voters want

"Heal the divide" is pretty much American leftist code for "silence and disenfranchise the opposition".
 
it will at least keep Trump from replacing Ginsburg,
The way the Left is right now, Trump in office is honestly the only reason she doesn't have to fear a bullet in her back. Let's assume for a thought experiment that a democrat is elected as president in 2020(lol!); Ginsberg will be fucking executed by a radical lefty, who will gladly throw their life away because they're getting a fresh liberal justice on the bench for another 50 years.
 
The way the Left is right now, Trump in office is honestly the only reason she doesn't have to fear a bullet in her back. Let's assume for a thought experiment that a democrat is elected as president in 2020(lol!); Ginsberg will be fucking executed by a radical lefty, who will gladly throw their life away because they're getting a fresh liberal justice on the bench for another 50 years.
Why on Earth would a radical lefty have to assassinate Ginsberg to get a fresh liberal justice when it's extremely likely she retires within days of the next Democrat president being sworn in?
The only reason she hadn't retired by 2016 was because she was certain Hillary'd win and wanted the first female president to be the one responsible for confirming her replacement.
 
Here's the biggest reason it's going to fail. Because the Democrats broke the unspoken covenant that keeps DC peaceful. The "what's done is done" rules whereby you don't stomp on the other parties bad actors too bad, and they don't stomp on yours. The old gentlemans agreement if you will. There is now nothing preventing Trump and Barr from going to town rolling up corrupt Dems. Starting with Biden. Which will also bring down such party stalwarts as Kerry and lead straight to Obama, Clinton and God knows where.
 
"Heal the divide" is pretty much American leftist code for "silence and disenfranchise the opposition".

Don't "divides" in political opinion create that wonderful diversity they always want more of?

Here's the biggest reason it's going to fail. Because the Democrats broke the unspoken covenant that keeps DC peaceful. The "what's done is done" rules whereby you don't stomp on the other parties bad actors too bad, and they don't stomp on yours. The old gentlemans agreement if you will. There is now nothing preventing Trump and Barr from going to town rolling up corrupt Dems. Starting with Biden. Which will also bring down such party stalwarts as Kerry and lead straight to Obama, Clinton and God knows where.

Doubly ironic in that since Trump is cleaner than most in DC (By virtue of paying his own way, he didn't NEED extra cash) that making his C-grade dirt impeachment-level sets a precedent that doesn't look good for neolib and neocons with AAA grade scandals lining their closets made of Soros-bux.

If Trump talking to foreign leaders is illegal because it earns him undue influence to campaign on, what does it say bout' those who took trillion-dollar consultant fees or whose kids sit on the boards of massive economic/governmental bureaus with NO history or qualifications?
 
I just don’t know anymore. It’s all a bunch of bullshit from the Drumpf people and the MAGA peeds. I don’t trust CNN and it’s always on at work, I saw yesterday they were hyping up a poll that CNN did and they said 47% of people (from their own poll) supported impeachment. So not even half said let’s get orange man. Is trump a good president, meh he’s at a C- for me, I wanted a wall but he got his pants in a twist over bullshit and didn’t focus that shit down.
That’s about all the rambling I got in me for today. Have a good one boys.
 
I’m just wondering why they think impeachment will work this time versus the five other times they tried it. You would think a political movement would realize it wouldn’t work and most people are numb to it, except for Democratic partisans and try to reach out to moderates and disaffected Republicans instead of doing something bound to fail again.
Oh, but they do realize it. All the ones who have been in the game for multiple terms. If it's obvious to us in the peanut gallery that this won't work, it has to be super duper extra blatantly obvious to a veteran of politics like Nancy Pelosi.

Problem is, the freshmen are 1000% propelled by emotion and don't know how to strategize. Letting Trump stand is an affront to their morals and decency and they cannot stand to let such an injustice go, not as long as they know they're on the Right Side of History. So rather than hedging their efforts or looking for small victories to gradually build up their influence, they rush straight for the big enchilada: removal of Dotard Drumph. Their cause is so righteous it can't possibly fail hilariously. I suspect Pelosi is getting tired of their bitching and simply letting them get the big impeachment fight they've been clamoring for, so they'll either learn to ease up on the gas in the future or get themselves primaried out next term. I'm betting she'll declare the impeach Trump movement dead in the water before too long, hopefully with enough time to right this sorry ship the Democrats have been piloting the past few years and at least put up a good show of contesting Trump.

And Trump is probably the best thing to happen to the Republicans in a while. His attitude and lack of respect for The Way Things Get Done in DC has led to not only the best shitshow in politics, but makes a good chunk of the Democrats and their voters exhaust themselves from being seething with rage and despair since '16.
 
And Trump is probably the best thing to happen to the Republicans in a while. His attitude and lack of respect for The Way Things Get Done in DC has led to not only the best shitshow in politics, but makes a good chunk of the Democrats and their voters exhaust themselves from being seething with rage and despair since '16.

Not only does he refuse to "lose with dignity", he refuses to lose, plays to win, and when he DOES lose he trash-talks and schedules a rematch.

The left have NO IDEA how to oppose this line of thinking, they have literally NEVER encountered it in their lives.

Wish is also why they believe in all the hyperbole that the End of the Galactic Republic is nigh due to the rise of Space Nazis that the public is foolishly supporting because they're too dumb to self-rule. They have never faced an opponent who actually means what he says and won't deviate, to them, that's so abnormal as to be deviant.
 
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