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Mike is definitely right about one thing: There's nowhere to go moving forward in the Star Wars universe, so they have to go backward.
With how much its been talked about in SW discussions everywhere and referenced in Disney media to the point of hammering you over the head with it (with 2018 having a huge amount of time travel referencing bs), I'm almost 81% certain of this scenario happening. Question is, why destroy the Force and turn everyone into a Darth Nihilus vacuum if Rey is just gonna go back in time and undo everything? Also for some reason, it grosses me out that Disney is trying to imply that their continuity is the original and true timeline and that Rey is the unintentional creator/goddess of the timeline we once knew. Even if they push the reset button and undo all of their own bullshit, they still want to have Rey be the center of the universe in some way or form.

Hey @GeneralFriendliness, I found this article that would attract your interest. Let me know what you think,

Thanks for the link. This will prove informative.
Yet let’s be clear: It’s not just, or maybe even primarily, the size of the company that is giving people the shakes. It’s the fact that a single film corporation now seems to own everything worth having — at least, in stark capitalistic blockbuster terms. Disney owns Marvel, it owns “Star Wars,” it owns “Avatar,” it owns the fabled animated features that it has been using to mint live-action-remake megahits as if it were printing money. What’s still on the table — “Godzilla”? The shards of “Harry Potter”? The fumbling-out-of-the-vampire-gate Dark Universe? You can make the case that the merger of Disney and Fox, when you boil out of the feathers, really comes down to the merger of Marvel and “Star Wars.” That sounds like the merger of Christmas and the Fourth of July, with Halloween thrown in as a bonus.
Disney is like a Black Hole at this point and it really is worrisome to think about what they can do with all these IPs put together... Make Wreck It Ralph 3: Ralph Wrecks the Fictional-Multiverse? Also if Disney owns FOX does that mean they now own the distribution rights to Lost In Space and Irwin Allen's other shows...?
 
Also if Disney owns FOX does that mean they now own the distribution rights to Lost In Space and Irwin Allen's other shows...?
The Towering Inferno is owned by Disney now, that's the only Irvin Allen production I know of. I thought Warner Bros. owns the Lost in Space franchise, since their New Line Cinema unit made that shitty 1998 remake with Gary Oldman.

Perhaps the most baffling film Disney now owns through Fox is Braveheart. Fox internationally released the film while Paramount released it in America. For those living outside of the US, I'm sorry you won't be able to get the director's cut should Mel Gibson manage to get going on it.

Also, Disney now distributes MGM on home video, based on a deal with Fox until 2020. I can't imagine MGM wants Disney to distribute the James Bond films on home video.

EDIT: Did I also forget that through a minority stake of Fox's Regency Enterprises, Disney owns The Revenant, Heat, Once Upon a Time in America, and L.A. Confidential?
 
Netflix owns the tv rights to Lost In Space now, but I'm not sure about the movie rights.

GODDAMN IT.
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It's all so depressing. Ive spent my years enjoying all the different ways different authors, comic writers, and game designers have taken star wars stories. You can go so many different ways with the universe and yet somehow through insane incompetence and failure we are now looking down the barrel of storyline suicide. Time travel, force resurrection, force possession, and even an entire reset of everything. You can do so much more with this universe with just a bit of imagination. I feel like a broken record with this but the lesson has to be learned so a disaster like this will never happen again.


It still baffles me that the emperor is probably going to come back. I can't think of a more surefire way of killing someone. They literally threw him into the reactor inside a giant mechanical moon and then blew up said pseudo moon for good measure. How can anything exist after that?
 
It still baffles me that the emperor is probably going to come back. I can't think of a more surefire way of killing someone. They literally threw him into the reactor inside a giant mechanical moon and then blew up said pseudo moon for good measure. How can anything exist after that?

Unfortunately, they set a precedent in TLJ for people surviving the vacuum of space with Leia Poppins. She did that with no Force training. Now imagine someone as powerful as The Emperor. Don't get me wrong, I fucking hate it too.
 
Unfortunately, they set a precedent in TLJ for people surviving the vacuum of space with Leia Poppins. She did that with no Force training. Now imagine someone as powerful as The Emperor. Don't get me wrong, I fucking hate it too.
Is this how star wars ends? Nobody can die? The rise of Skywalker ends with Rey resurrecting everyone in the universe at once and killing death itself, thus becoming the ultimate mary sue.
 
It's all so depressing. Ive spent my years enjoying all the different ways different authors, comic writers, and game designers have taken star wars stories. You can go so many different ways with the universe and yet somehow through insane incompetence and failure we are now looking down the barrel of storyline suicide. Time travel, force resurrection, force possession, and even an entire reset of everything. You can do so much more with this universe with just a bit of imagination. I feel like a broken record with this but the lesson has to be learned so a disaster like this will never happen again.


It still baffles me that the emperor is probably going to come back. I can't think of a more surefire way of killing someone. They literally threw him into the reactor inside a giant mechanical moon and then blew up said pseudo moon for good measure. How can anything exist after that?

Noones ever really gone.

I'm really sorry that I seem to be the harbinger of the time travel crap(I may be wrong)to the thread.

As far as what they would reset, it would only be 7-9. I seriously doubt anything else will change.

Also, I disagree with Redlettermedia about no story moving forward. That's bullshit. There is no more story for the Skywalker saga(I agree). But, you can carve out whatever story you want, thst would take place in the future of the galaxy.

Also, destroying the force? So destroying space magic itself? Nah, the force is way bigger than any Palpatine or Skywalker...
 
Noones ever really gone.

I'm really sorry that I seem to be the harbinger of the time travel crap(I may be wrong)to the thread.

As far as what they would reset, it would only be 7-9. I seriously doubt anything else will change.

Also, I disagree with Redlettermedia about no story moving forward. That's bullshit. There is no more story for the Skywalker saga(I agree). But, you can carve out whatever story you want, thst would take place in the future of the galaxy.

Also, destroying the force? So destroying space magic itself? Nah, the force is way bigger than any Palpatine or Skywalker...

I legit think that Rey is going to wind up being Shmi Skywalker now. I'm totally convinced. It's an idea that is so fucking STUPID that Disney is undoubtedly going to do it.
 
I'm totally convinced that Disney is going to destroy the Star Wars franchise, no matter if it costs them every dime they have. I don't think they're consciously trying to do this, but their desire to hurt the original non-woke fans is so total, that it's clouding their judgment.
 
I'm actively seizing now because this film gets sounding worse and worse with each iteration. I honestly thought that it being just a REEESIST macguffin chase was bad enough, and yet this new idea makes me WISH it was that, because at least that's conventionally bad. I can't feel anything but the Dark Side.

I'm going to actually write out parts of my take on how to make a decent Last Jedi movie now; I just want to feel something besides wroth:

So Last Jedi opens a month or two after the Raid on Starkiller Base, on a cold steppe planet rife with ruins and giant tree colonies. FN is still grieving for Rey, given he like many of the Republic forces sent to break out the bases' prisoners, thinks she was killed when the Star Destroyer tagged her. His mood's made somewhat worse as he isn't exactly trusted by many of the forces present, who sneer and remark he's "a throwback to the Empire", they clearly don't trust him for the most part. He does however have the trust of General Organa, who picks his brain for as much info as he can provide. He also still has Chewbacca, who both share in drinks due to their shared grief.

He slowly begins to develop a complicated but growing relationship with Temmin, as the two often are both similar to but different to each other. FN and Temmin are both loyal to a fault, care deeply about their allies and friends, and give their all for the mission. But where FN is a cooler head and far thinker, Temmin is hot-headed and very in the moment. You can see the nucleus of a friendship, but it isn't there yet due to their personality clashes.

The two are called in to the war room, where Leia, Ackbar, as well as Leia's XO Holdo are planning over something. Both FN and Admiral Ackbar had good intel on the First Order's main assets, of which includes one of the few good sized shipyards they control located on [Insert Midworld Here]. Ackbar himself was caught while on a raiding mission in the Mid-Rim and was the main spotter of it along with his crew. FN himself verifies it, since Commander Hux and his unit in general had to quell dissidents in the region and had to drydock there once due to a surprise Y-Wing bomber run.

Temmin himself advocates for an approach given his status of Chief Flight Officer, but Holdo and Ackbar are more cautious. Holdo comments that it may be a trap of some sort, showing a bit of disdain for FN and claiming an FO asset can't be taken for his word, which makes Leia frown, but Ackbar backs up her first point. He noted that its location is near a Hyperspace lane, and that makes it a good point for fast responses; they are already under supplied as is thanks to the Republic's growing financial crisis and the Cold War with the Hutts. He presses that they send a message to Coruscant for more troops.

Temmin disagrees, pressing that if they don't strike now, then the First Order can produce more Star Destroyers and other capitals; strike now and the Space War is in the Republic's favor and a rising threat crushed. FN actually backs this up himself, mentioning that the reason that the First Order has been doing so well in their fight to bring back an Empire is that mobility was their key. They design most everything to be transportable, and he imagines the Shipyard is likely to be towed away soon, possibly to Hutt Space since they take advantage of their independence and dislike of the Republic. Leia after much thinking agrees to the idea, though she doesn't like the gamble.

With their plans set, they get ready to set out for planning that raid.

As this happens, Rey finds herself awakening in a rough, but comfortable bed. She is still bandaged, but feels probably the best she's ever felt, made all moreso by her feeling safe for the first time in years. She's immediately suspicious, and tries to sneak out of said hut, attempting to not awaken a robed figure sleeping on the ground. It doesn't quite work when a series of whirring and beeping cause her to gasp and stagger on her butt.

It turns out its a rather amused R2 unit, beeping and jittering at her in a mix of exasperation and excitement, and she hears a figure stir near the floor. She then tries to threaten the man with a stick, which causes him to lightly pull it from her and thwack her softly in rebuke, a mild chuckle coming out at the amusement. The man casually uses the force to light a torch in a sconce, and you see it's Luke Skywalker. He's scarred up, weathered from age, is weighed somewhat from guilt, but you can't help but note throughout all of that, he is still smiling.

He tries to calm down Rey, but the long time out, her emotional state since Han died, and the fact she's not thinking straight just causes her to freak, and she tries to force push him. He is surprised for a bit and is knocked back slightly, and she tries to run.

The key word is she tries to run, as she finds out that she is on a fairly small island, and her ship is beyond damaged. She's trapped here. Again. Alone. Abandoned. She turns around when Luke comes towards her. She reels back before she finally just gives up, and begins to let out years of frustration, self-loathing, fear, and loss. Luke brushes past the force fireworks, and just proceeds to hold her, comforting her as he uses years of experience with kids to calm her down. He remarks that she lost so much, based on her ties to the Dark Side of the force. He can feel a variety of griefs, disappointments, and upsets.

He also provides an ear to listen to and offers her some blue m1lk, as it's always been something that he found helped during times of grief. She doesn't quite feel like it, but tired, she decides to do so.

During this impromptu meal, she 's mostly silent, before she haltingly asks who he is. He chuckles a bit and simply states an old war dog who was left behind by others. He gets into a bit of a row with R2 and argues a bit with the droid, both on wanting to just do as his previous masters did and it being tradition. Sighing, he then decides to ask who Rey is, trying to get out of the brewing argument. She takes some time to explain why she landed here, halting here and there when wounds were too fresh. The game ends when Luke learns about what happened to Han and who killed him. He himself begins to tear up, before he sighs, washes away most of the grief, and murmurs that "Ben, you were always my most difficult student... I wish it never came to this".

This familiarity baffles her and she inquires as to how he knew Kylo Ren's real name, until he gives up the game and reveals that he is in fact Luke Skywalker, at the moment the titular Last Jedi.
 
OH FUCK.

I literally just figured it out. Rey and Kylo have sex at some point in this movie. Kylo dies while resisting being possessed by Palpatine, and Rey travels back in time to destroy the artifact that houses his spirit so that he can't come back again. The artifact explodes or some shit when she destroys it. Rey wakes up on a desert planet (Tattooine) with no memory... and is now PREGNANT.

So she has no memory and has therefore lost her knowledge of The Force and her abilities within it. She realizes she's pregnant, but has no memory of having sex with anyone and just assumes that there WAS no father. She gives birth to a boy, and names him Anakin. Then years later, when a jedi asks her about the boy's father, she says, "There was no father. I carried and gave birth to him, but there was no father."

Holy fuck. Rey is Shmi, you guys.

This is the dumbest possible idea for ending an already horrible sequel trilogy, so you know it has to be true based on Disney's track record.
 
OH FUCK.

I literally just figured it out. Rey and Kylo have sex at some point in this movie. Kylo dies while resisting being possessed by Palpatine, and Rey travels back in time to destroy the artifact that houses his spirit so that he can't come back again. The artifact explodes or some shit when she destroys it. Rey wakes up on a desert planet (Tattooine) with no memory... and is now PREGNANT.

So she has no memory and has therefore lost her knowledge of The Force and her abilities within it. She realizes she's pregnant, but has no memory of having sex with anyone and just assumes that there WAS no father. She gives birth to a boy, and names him Anakin. Then years later, when a jedi asks her about the boy's father, she says, "There was no father. I carried and gave birth to him, but there was no father."

Holy fuck. Rey is Shmi, you guys.

This is the dumbest possible idea for ending an already horrible sequel trilogy, so you know it has to be true based on Disney's track record.
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I have no words if THIS is what they go with, since I've accepted to a degree that Disney is in fact fucking stupid enough to make this movie be a time travel attrocity. If they cause a fucking causality loop... I. I don't know what I'd feel. All I'd know is that it'd actually make how Star Trek Discovery handled it's (likely last) season finale look genius.

HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS HARD YOU HAVE TO FUCKING TRY TO WRITE THIS BAD.
 
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I have no words if THIS is what they go with, since I've accepted to a degree that Disney is in fact fucking stupid enough to make this movie be a time travel attrocity. If they cause a fucking causality loop... I. I don't know what I'd feel. All I'd know is that it'd actually make how Star Trek Discovery handled it's (likely last) season finale look genius.

HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS HARD YOU HAVE TO FUCKING TRY TO WRITE THIS BAD.

Do you not see that this is why the movie is called Rise Of Skywalker? I'm fucking serious. They are actually going to do this bullshit. Think about it. Everything I've said makes sense if you're a bad writer.
 
I'd honestly believe Disney would be dumb enough to go through with this but I doubt they would make Ren the father since Disney would never show incest in their movies (outside of Lion King). And the new Vader comic shows that Palpatine is Vader's father now rather than the Force+Plagueis... Chances are Disney could end the movie with Rey being Shmi but the father would be left unknown until the eventual shitty comic tie-in from Marvel. But even then I'm not Kennedy would be willing to go down this route since that would result in Rey no longer being a strong and independent single woman, which is how Kennedy likes her heroes. And Rey becoming pregnant without consent is a definite no-no with Kennedy and her feminist leagues.

Luke and Leia kissed in ESB. Accidental incest has always been a part of Star Wars.
But they might not even have to have actual sex in order for her to get pregnant. They already had Force phonesex pretty much in TLJ.
 
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