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If TLJ hadn't completely shat on Luke Skywalker it wouldn't have been nearly as hated.

All they had to do was retool a few things and it would made the movie a lot better, if not still great, but it would have lessened the anger.

You can still make Luke a little reluctant, but have him be less of an asshole about it and let him live to fight another day, don't make us think he's gonna die, only for it to turn out to be a trick... and then kill him off anyway? That alone is a big reason why the movie gets so much hate I'm sure.

Of course there's a lot of improvements to be made, like Rose should have been played a more attractive actress, nothing wrong with an Asian female character in a Star Wars movie, but why couldn't she be cuter?
 
All they had to do was retool a few things and it would made the movie a lot better, if not still great, but it would have lessened the anger.

You can still make Luke a little reluctant, but have him be less of an asshole about it and let him live to fight another day, don't make us think he's gonna die, only for it to turn out to be a trick... and then kill him off anyway? That alone is a big reason why the movie gets so much hate I'm sure.

Of course there's a lot of improvements to be made, like Rose should have been played a more attractive actress, nothing wrong with an Asian female character in a Star Wars movie, but why couldn't she be cuter?
I think the problem isnt that Luke is a loser. Thats actually dead on Luke. Its his demeanor and character thats totally off.

He is a fucking curmudgeon in TLJ and cynical. Thats Han, not Luke. Luke might have been failing, but he would never give up. He would be emotional, and frustrated perhaps. If he is on that planet, he thinks he needs to be there to save his nephew but doesnt know why....
 
Of course there's a lot of improvements to be made, like Rose should have been played a more attractive actress, nothing wrong with an Asian female character in a Star Wars movie, but why couldn't she be cuter?
The actress is generally considered conventionally attractive in her other roles, but Ruin Johnson purposely uglified her with makeup and costume. In early drafts of the casino planet subplot, Rose and Finn were originally supposed to disguise themselves and blend in by dressing up in formal evening wear, thus revealing Rose to be conventionally attractive (like a "she was beautiful all along" moment), but Ruin Johnson rewrote the whole subplot and threw out that sequence without making any changes to the ugly makeup and costume Rose would get for the rest of the film.
 
The actress is generally considered conventionally attractive in her other roles, but Ruin Johnson purposely uglified her with makeup and costume. In early drafts of the casino planet subplot, Rose and Finn were originally supposed to disguise themselves and blend in by dressing up in formal evening wear, thus revealing Rose to be conventionally attractive (like a "she was beautiful all along" moment), but Ruin Johnson rewrote the whole subplot and threw out that sequence without making any changes to the ugly makeup and costume Rose would get for the rest of the film.
By dressing in formal wear, do you mean changing actresses?

Cause they've done that in Star Wars...

I think the bigger problem is: I dont want to have sex with any of the females in this current trilogy....

I mean there isnt even a Sny Snoodles
 
The actress is generally considered conventionally attractive in her other roles, but Ruin Johnson purposely uglified her with makeup and costume. In early drafts of the casino planet subplot, Rose and Finn were originally supposed to disguise themselves and blend in by dressing up in formal evening wear, thus revealing Rose to be conventionally attractive (like a "she was beautiful all along" moment), but Ruin Johnson rewrote the whole subplot and threw out that sequence without making any changes to the ugly makeup and costume Rose would get for the rest of the film.

What a faggot ass loser that little twerp is.
 
Atleast JJ was smart enough to say at the start New Trek was a different timeline and that he was staying far the fuck away from stuff fans loved.
It was like that at first, but since people weren't interested in his Kelvin-verse one of his writers (Alex Kurtzman) started his own production company and got the rights for the "old" Trek universe, so now he's destroying the "prime" universe with not one (STD), not two (Picard) but 5 shows!

And worse, no clear-cut, fearsome villain. Snoke was a joke. Ditto for Hux and anyone else part of the First Order. one need not like -- in the traditional sense -- the villain, but it helps to have one that one knows is the villain and his or her motivations for what makes them so evil. Kylo Ren doesn't even count because he seems more like an an angsty teen goth than a bona fide villain. Worse, the two movies shown thus far are so disjointed that low tier SW fan fiction seems to be better written.
This new trilogy is written for the Twilight fans. Kylo is the bad guy but not really a villain, he's cute enough to make the fangirls (teenagers, cat-ladies and wine aunts) wet their panties. Just look at the Reylo shit (or not), it's insane.

Then Disney can start changing legends canon.
The Story Group™ has already said that there's no truth in Star Wars.

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The actress that plays Rose Tico is cute in real life.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again: The way that Rian Johnson had that actress styled and dressed in the movie should be considered a hate crime.
 
This new trilogy is written for the Twilight fans. Kylo is the bad guy but not really a villain, he's cute enough to make the fangirls (teenagers, cat-ladies and wine aunts) wet their panties. Just look at the Reylo shit (or not), it's insane.
Which I have to admit, I do not get. Adam Driver is just funky looking to me. Like an android or something. Then again I never understood the obsession with Robert Pattinson either...
 
Which I have to admit, I do not get. Adam Driver is just funky looking to me. Like an android or something. Then again I never understood the obsession with Robert Pattinson either...
Doesnt matter, he is in movies. Movie and media tells us he is supposed to be good looking, its enough(as long as he isnt deformed or morbidly obese)
 
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There is no way in hell that Rian will ever be working on a Star Wars film ever again. I would even go so far as to say that there's no way in hell that he'll ever work on a Disney or Fox movie ever again.
They'll delay Rian's trilogy until people are distracted enough by something else, then they'll get rid of him. He is NOT well liked by Disney execs, no matter what they say publicly. He did so much damage to the franchise, not only with TLJ, but the constant mocking of fans on Twitter.
I guess someone at Lionsgate, which is honestly at the brink of going bust due to several flops and widely rumored to by acquired by Paramount in the future, thought it’d be a great idea to hire RJ to make his incredibly shitty film that’s coming out called “Knives Out.”

Do they wait to see how Mandalorian pans out? Move Favreau to the film section if its well recieved? I guess it must be testing well if he got the green light for season 2..
Unless his pointless Lion King remake, which I heard from critics is not very good, legit bombs thanks to the reviews being dumped early.

Notice how Daisy Ridley came out recently and said that "it was fair" for fans to not like TLJ? She wouldn't be doing that without Disney's approval. I actually like Daisy. I feel bad for her. None of this was really her fault, yet she'll be the "face" of this failure for years to come.
The problem is that JJ and Rian don’t know how to develop characters, at all.
 
Man i need to get caught up.

I just wanted to say this: Remember how I said Gennedy Tartacantspellhisname was my pick to run star wars? Well I've been finally catching up on the last season of samurai Jack. At halfway through, it's already a better Last Jedi than Last Jedi.

  • For those who don't know, Jack is the last adherent to an ancient warrior code who wields a magic sword given to him by his father which is unbreakable and can cut through nearly everything.
  • He is also fighting a mighty and ancient evil being who has mystical powers.
  • At the start of the last season, many decades have passed and Jack is growing weary of the fight.
  • He is attacked by Mary Sue and her sisters who nearly kill him. Oh wait, she's not a Mary Sue, we saw the extreme training all of the girls went through to prepare themselves for the fight. They also surprise the hero, and outnumber him.
  • Plus later, when Jack recovers from his wounds and gets a second wind, he proceeds to lay the beat down on Mary Sue & friends and show them why HE is the SAM-U-RAI.
  • Then when Jack realizes Mary Sue has been indoctrinated, he spares her life and proceeds to even save it (despite her fighting him) when they get in trouble.
  • Thx to Jack's kindness and nobility, Mary Sue breaks free of her programming and even helps Jack rescue a bunch of kids.
  • Except during the struggle, Jack thinks he's killed the kids and starts having his mental breakdown.
  • Summing up: he vanishes and Mary Sue has to search for him. As she does so, she repeatedly comes across people that Jack has helped and hears stories of his heroics.
  • Eventually she finds him ready to committ seppekku at these ritual grounds, and fights some ghosts while telling Jack about all the hope he has given others and the need for him to keep fighting.
  • Closing of the halfway point is Jack snapping out of it and declaring, "Let's go get my sword."
Just imagine if the above was episodes 7 and 8. Would you not be PUMPED for e9 by now?

Yeah, it kind of combines Rey and Finn into one character but how fitting for Luke to be know as "the redeeming" Jedi. Then we could have a movie recounting the adventures Luke had after RotJ which we didn't get to see. A way to honor the hero who was, and inspire the new hero who will carry the torch.

You can't tell me that a ST who had done that wouldn't have made all the money in the world AND been beloved by fans. (Plus been a hit in China because they like ancestors and legacy stories.)
 
Actors are just people hired to do a job, if a movie sucks it's not their fault, they're not involved with creative decisions and as far as the prequels go, every actor was wooden, what chance did a little kid have?

It's a shame.

And in the case of child actors such as Jake Lloyd in TPM,it's more a shame since such young actors have less control and awareness of what's going around them. In many cases, they probably get coaxed more to say their lines or emote in certain ways as the script dictates. It's one thing to criticize bad acting. A-logging actors, especially child ones, isn't a good thing because of all the factors out of their control such as a bad script or director.

It's a bummer to hear how downhill his recent life has been. May Godbear help him put the pieces back together somehow.

To give people an idea; I actively discount Rebels or whatever the fuck that new cartoon is called BECAUSE of the use of time-travel; it comes off as fanfiction-tier writing and I hate cop outs designed to try and retcon things like character deaths or ways to get around things the writer can't be fucked with dealing with.

Quite frankly, I've discounted anything new beyond Season 5 of (Filoni's) Clone Wars simply because the material has messed things up more than it's advanced the SWU franchise and canon.

Sad thing is that time travel, if used properly, could actually work. Unfortunately, it's been used sloppily when it's appeared so far in SW content that it's hard to objectively say, "Yeah, this was a good thing to introduce. More, please."

He's equipped with a nightstick that turns into a sword and a... giant claw crane? This doesn't help the fact that people been jokingly referring to these guys as Lobster guards.

I can see it now, Episode IX has an awful campy joke or reference to a lobster gram or these troopers being crushed in their shells (armor). The ST is so bad that not having something like this would be a letdown.

Of course there's a lot of improvements to be made, like Rose should have been played a more attractive actress, nothing wrong with an Asian female character in a Star Wars movie, but why couldn't she be cuter?
The actress is generally considered conventionally attractive in her other roles, but Ruin Johnson purposely uglified her with makeup and costume. In early drafts of the casino planet subplot, Rose and Finn were originally supposed to disguise themselves and blend in by dressing up in formal evening wear, thus revealing Rose to be conventionally attractive (like a "she was beautiful all along" moment), but Ruin Johnson rewrote the whole subplot and threw out that sequence without making any changes to the ugly makeup and costume Rose would get for the rest of the film.

As others have already said, Kelly Marie Tran is a rather attractive woman. I can't recall if it was a preview event or something after TLJ was released, but she totally rocked the red carpet with how she looked in the pictures I saw from said event.

While I can understand concerns about creepy male gaze or over-sexualizing female actresses in outfits so skimpy they'd fall off after a sneeze, I still don't understand why it looked like everyone went out of their way to make the Rose Tico character look as frumpy as she did. Heck, George Lucas didn't want Carrie Fisher's bosom bouncing around from the lack of a bra on-set and had it taped down, but he still made sure her character looked attractive and feminine in ANH while portraying Leia as a kickass fighter when necessary.

It's a shame the formal wear portion of the casino scenes from TLJ got scrapped. This could have been a good chance to show Finn and Rose being impressed at how the other looked "outside of work" so to speak. They didn't even have to wear anything too outrageous; a simple tux for Finn and a formal, modest dress and accessories for Rose would have worked perfectly. Instead, we're stuck with both characters looking out of place in the casino with their blah typecasting/outfits they stayed in for the entire film.
 
As others have already said, Kelly Marie Tran is a rather attractive woman. I can't recall if it was a preview event or something after TLJ was released, but she totally rocked the red carpet with how she looked in the pictures I saw from said event.

While I can understand concerns about creepy male gaze or over-sexualizing female actresses in outfits so skimpy they'd fall off after a sneeze, I still don't understand why it looked like everyone went out of their way to make the Rose Tico character look as frumpy as she did. Heck, George Lucas didn't want Carrie Fisher's bosom bouncing around from the lack of a bra on-set and had it taped down, but he still made sure her character looked attractive and feminine in ANH while portraying Leia as a kickass fighter when necessary.

It's a shame the formal wear portion of the casino scenes from TLJ got scrapped. This could have been a good chance to show Finn and Rose being impressed at how the other looked "outside of work" so to speak. They didn't even have to wear anything too outrageous; a simple tux for Finn and a formal, modest dress and accessories for Rose would have worked perfectly. Instead, we're stuck with both characters looking out of place in the casino with their blah typecasting/outfits they stayed in for the entire film.
Tell me about it...
 
Which I have to admit, I do not get. Adam Driver is just funky looking to me. Like an android or something. Then again I never understood the obsession with Robert Pattinson either...

Hes repulsive and a ex soldier irl. Hes all about MURRICA but hes fucking repulsive. I blame Lena Dunham for helping his career. Fucking pig
 
Hes repulsive and a ex soldier irl. Hes all about MURRICA but hes fucking repulsive. I blame Lena Dunham for helping his career. Fucking pig
Don't you be talking bad about the homeland of the robot menace now.

#MakeAmericaMetalAgain
 
I can see it now, Episode IX has an awful campy joke or reference to a lobster gram or these troopers being crushed in their shells (armor). The ST is so bad that not having something like this would be a letdown.
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Hes repulsive and a ex soldier irl. Hes all about MURRICA but hes fucking repulsive. I blame Lena Dunham for helping his career. Fucking pig
Jesus, the dude is a bit dorky I get it but repulsive? His role on Dunham's show was for food.

Dude literally fucked Lena Dunham in the ass for money. You can't get more whorish than that.
 
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