Captain Marvel - Literally, from "her" to "hero"

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Are you actually going to watch this flick?

  • No

    Votes: 74 17.0%

  • Fuck, no

    Votes: 177 40.7%

  • Not in cinemas

    Votes: 81 18.6%

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 9.2%

  • (((Yes)))

    Votes: 20 4.6%

  • Twitter told me I must, I can't say no, you white-cis-sexist-oppresive scum!

    Votes: 43 9.9%
  • Total voters
    435
Xerxes IX said:
I feel like we're never going to get a character arc like Tony's with Carol, because learning to shed the bravado, care about things and people, and protect those things is dangerously close to "women are emotional and nurturing" and that doesn't belong on a strong wamen character.

And even then the character doesn't work for everyone. Some people do hate Tony because he's a dick. Say you hate Carol because she's a dick and you'll be shouted down with "no you hate her because you're sexist"
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See, and that's the thing that drives me up the wall with how popular "woke" media treats female characters: 90% of the time they ain't characters because the people who go apeshit about not having gender representation also balk at the idea that a female character could ever be shown to be anything less than imperfect. And if they are shown to be imperfect, they should have a snarky retort to offset it and somehow still attempt to come off as superior. It's fucking boring. It narrative equivalent of vanilla yogurt, but that seems to be the de facto setting for current media climate: if you can't play it seriously, try to be meta and everyone will let it slide.

And that's why I'm probably not going to see Captain Marvel. Not because "OH NO WAHMANS" but because this from the onset has shown to be another retread of the same boring as hell Disney Princess-ification that they've done for the last few decades with every singe fucking IP they get their sticky fingers on. This is going to be Mulan In Space with 90s references hamfisted into it.
 
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See, and that's the thing that drives me up the wall with how popular "woke" media treats female characters: 90% of the time they ain't characters because the people who go apeshit about not having gender representation also balk at the idea that a female character could ever be shown to be anything less than imperfect. And if they are shown to be imperfect, they should have a snarky retort to offset it and somehow still attempt to come off as superior. It's fucking boring. It narrative equivalent of vanilla yogurt, but that seems to be the de facto setting for current media climate: if you can't play it seriously, try to be meta and everyone will let it slide.

And that's why I'm probably not going to see Captain Marvel. Not because "OH NO WAHMANS" but because this from the onset has shown to be another retread of the same boring as hell Disney Princess-ification that they've done for the last few decades with every singe fucking IP they get their sticky fingers on. This is going to be Mulan In Space with 90s references hamfisted into it.
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Considering that Disney's marketing for Captain Marvel is even worse than either The Last Jedi and Solo that it's now turning itself to a real-life equivalent to Big Brother from George Orwell's 1984 (although this by itself isn't surprising either coming from a greedy mass media company).
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
One thing I had found concerning about the promotion Captain Marvel was why they didn't have a teaser for San Diego Comicon 2018 when Shazam (a film further back in post-production) had one ready. This was supposed to be the big tentpole for the post-Endgame MCU and one would think they would want to give it more fanfare because even when the first trailer hit months later, it was as exciting and joyful as going to Grandma's funeral. It is almost like the only one who had faith in it was Kevin Feige and even then I wonder if his faith was just empty bravado. I can see why @Secret Asshole said that choosing Brie Larson was a calculated move, but one could only imagine what was going in his head when he looked at what appeared to be a mediocre script on his desk and now he's backed into a corner.

With the middling reviews, I have got to wonder if we'll get a repeat of The Last Jedi.
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I doubt this will get to TLJ levels because Captain Marvel is a movie that not many people care about and TLJ at least had hype for it.
 
Literally every site reviewing Captain Marvel, excluding Rotten Tomatoes (of course), is arguing that the movie is either lackluster or just bad.

The best one, I think, is from the National Review.

www.nationalreview.com

Captain Marvel: Boring Story with No Arc | National Review

Captain Marvel might be the first blockbuster movie whose animating idea is fear.
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Iwasamwillbe said:
Literally every site reviewing Captain Marvel, excluding Rotten Tomatoes (of course), is arguing that the movie is either lackluster or just bad.

The best one, I think, is from the National Review.

www.nationalreview.com

Captain Marvel: Boring Story with No Arc | National Review

Captain Marvel might be the first blockbuster movie whose animating idea is fear.
www.nationalreview.com
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Wow I wonder why they'd hesitate to criticize it.

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Ruin said:
If if it was average to good the whole time why did they feel the need to market it with the whole Ghostbusters 2016 style "ur all hateful incels lulz" nonsense?
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Solo gave Disney a scare. Star Wars had been a licence to print money, no matter how bad the movies were. Suddenly they had a flop. What if the same thing happened here? Black Panther showed that it was possible to get woke without going broke, so that’s what they did.
damian said:
:story: It’s not Woke enough! I fucking love these unappeasable assholes, thank you for proving that pandering to you is a fruitless effort that always backfires.
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That’s because they tried to market a not-especially-feminist movie as the capeshit version of The Female Eunuch.
 
StarkRavingMad said:
Welp. The critics are predictably at it again. Captain Marvel currently has a 91% Fresh Rating on Rotten Tomatoes with 68 reviews in. Not shocked in the slightest.

If those spoilers from 4Chan are true, then ... Yeah, it's a movie undeserving of a high rating from critics.
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I don't wanna say Disney buys the critics...But after this, Mary Poppins 2, and Ralph 2 got glowing reviews...Then yes, Disney fucking buys the critics. I hope Bob Iger is accused of being a sexual harasser.

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See, and that's the thing that drives me up the wall with how popular "woke" media treats female characters: 90% of the time they ain't characters because the people who go apeshit about not having gender representation also balk at the idea that a female character could ever be shown to be anything less than imperfect. And if they are shown to be imperfect, they should have a snarky retort to offset it and somehow still attempt to come off as superior. It's fucking boring. It narrative equivalent of vanilla yogurt, but that seems to be the de facto setting for current media climate: if you can't play it seriously, try to be meta and everyone will let it slide.

And that's why I'm probably not going to see Captain Marvel. Not because "OH NO WAHMANS" but because this from the onset has shown to be another retread of the same boring as hell Disney Princess-ification that they've done for the last few decades with every singe fucking IP they get their sticky fingers on. This is going to be Mulan In Space with 90s references hamfisted into it.
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See Rey and the minority characters from new Star Wars. They barely have flaws aside from being "quirky/awkward", but the filmmakers still expect us to like them because of their skin color or vagina or sexualities. And then you have cancerous sites like Tumblr that makes fandoms out of them; the most pathetic, poorly written conceived characters that do not deserve that much appreciation, since they confuse representation with good writing (oh hai Korra).

I can't wait to see the Walker brothers' soyboytastic review of this movie.

EDIT: Like it's obvious this would never make Black Panther levels. Even with all the things stacked against it was an action/fantasy flick with a black lead, which isn't done that much, that would attract an audience, plus the character had been presented earlier in another film and was found likable then. Angry White Blonde in Space is something we've been seeing for years, plus black people who loved Black Panther wouldn't give a shit about the adventures of Random White Lady.

Seriously, though, if their plans after Endgame is to include all the minority characters from the new comics...Like who would be the audience for the films!? A shitily done Miles Morales movie that'll be super rushed since Disney would want to rip off Miles from Spiderverse after they saw how popular that film was? A Kamala Khan movie with so much Islamic propaganda it'll make islamists' head roll out from the sand? None of these things sound appealing in the long run.
 
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Wow I wonder why they'd hesitate to criticize it.

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Sorry sweaty you’re a white male. You’re not allowed to have an opinion
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Get a better taste in movies, coalbrain. I thought this was gonna be Tariq tbh.

Imagine unironically defending a white woman movie, the worst demographic on earth, just because you’re scared of dangerhairs
 
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