Captain Marvel - Literally, from "her" to "hero"

[Jetpack Himmler]

Oh yeah, I just don't see the hype at all for Captain Marvel. I think a lot of it is because Carol Danvers comes across as so offputting in these trailers; devoid of any personality. The movie honestly looks like Green Lantern. We'll see though. I'm giving the movie a chance, and I want to be proven wrong.

While I do think there are definitely some MCU movies that are lesser than others, I have never walked out of an MCU movie, thinking "I regret seeing that." That's why I'm giving this movie a fair chance. The MCU hasn't disappointed me yet.

I just watched the Far From Home trailer, and yesssssss. The hype is so real! Mysterio, bitches!

My problem with the MCU is not so much with the product itself, but the fans who put it on a goddamn pedestal and hold it up as the pinnacle of filmmaking. It's not. They are entertaining enough, but they're not Casablanca or Gone With the Wind.

Captain Marvel is the first Marvel film I will give a hard pass. There was nothing in the trailers that justified spending over $10 on a ticket for.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

My problem with the MCU is not so much with the product itself, but the fans who put it on a goddamn pedestal and hold it up as the pinnacle of filmmaking. It's not. They are entertaining enough, but they're not Casablanca or Gone With the Wind.

Captain Marvel is the first Marvel film I will give a hard pass. There was nothing in the trailers that justified spending over $10 on a ticket for.

Well, for me personally, the first Iron Man, the first Guardians of the Galaxy, The Winter Soldier, and Infinity War are legitimately great movies. Don't know if I would put them up with the likes of Casablanca ('cause I feel like that's comparing apples to oranges), but I would definitely compare them to something like the original Star Wars.

Infinity War, for me, is the modern day Empire Strikes Back. Absolutely love it, and I can't tell you how many times I've seen it since it came out to theaters. The specific MCU movies I mentioned are definitely blockbusters, but I think they're blockbusters with a little something more on their mind.

And I vehemently disagree with critics who say that the MCU is "destroying cinema." Nope. As a whole, they're good and entertaining movies with interesting characters that audiences care about. It isn't the MCU's fault that pretty much the rest of blockbusters these days are total ass, and Hollywood seems like it can't get itself together to make more decent and original movies. The MCU is an experiment in of itself, and it's a successful one thus far.

Anyway, the main reason why I'm giving Captain Marvel a chance is because the MCU now has that "reliable entertainment" reputation they've built for themselves. Plus, I love Infinity War so much that I'm curious to see how this movie ties in to everything before Endgame. I want this movie to be good, but I am skeptical because the trailers haven't "wowed" me.

 

[MI 814]

Well, for me personally, the first Iron Man, the first Guardians of the Galaxy, The Winter Soldier, and Infinity War are legitimately great movies. Don't know if I would put them up with the likes of Casablanca ('cause I feel like that's comparing apples to oranges), but I would definitely compare them to something like the original Star Wars.

Infinity War, for me, is the modern day Empire Strikes Back. Absolutely love it, and I can't tell you how many times I've seen it since it came out to theaters. The specific MCU movies I mentioned are definitely blockbusters, but I think they're blockbusters with a little something more on their mind.

And I vehemently disagree with critics who say that the MCU is "destroying cinema." Nope. As a whole, they're good and entertaining movies with interesting characters that audiences care about. It isn't the MCU's fault that pretty much the rest of blockbusters these days are total ass, and Hollywood seems like it can't get itself together to make more decent and original movies. The MCU is an experiment in of itself, and it's a successful one thus far.

Anyway, the main reason why I'm giving Captain Marvel a chance is because the MCU now has that "reliable entertainment" reputation they've built for themselves. Plus, I love Infinity War so much that I'm curious to see how this movie ties in to everything before Endgame. I want this movie to be good, but I am skeptical because the trailers haven't "wowed" me.

The MCU is just a band aid on a dying corpse tbh. The corpse being the movie industry.

 

[madethistocomment]

I feel like this Captain Marvel could work well in a team setting with a bunch of different personalities. Her being a stoic, hardass, stick in the mud could be pretty entertaining if she was paired against a more comedic, jokey, lighthearted character, like the straight man to the goofball. That sort of duo could bounce off each other well.

Unfortunately though, I don't think we're going to get any of that in this movie. It seems like she's going relatively solo, which means that we're stuck with just stoic, hardass, stick in the mud Carol.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I feel like this Captain Marvel could work well in a team setting with a bunch of different personalities. Her being a stoic, hardass, stick in the mud could be pretty entertaining if she was paired against a more comedic, jokey, lighthearted character, like the straight man to the goofball. That sort of duo could bounce off each other well.

Unfortunately though, I don't think we're going to get any of that in this movie. It seems like she's going relatively solo, which means that we're stuck with just stoic, hardass, stick in the mud Carol.

I hope the trailers are a bit accurate and show her interacting a lot with Nick Fury who seems to be more comedic in the 90s.

 

[That Chris Guy]

The MCU is just a band aid on a dying corpse tbh. The corpse being the movie industry.

I can't help but see the MCU as the movie equivalent of Call of Duty honestly...

As for Captain Marvel, it will probably still make plenty of money, but it's a hard sell. Not only does she come across as boring and relatively unlikeable here, but her character comes with a history that makes Aquaman's unpopularity look tame by comparison. Raped by her own time-travelling son? The flagship face for everything that went wrong with Marvel Comics and then some? Yeah, it won't be easy.

 

[MI 814]

I can't help but see the MCU as the movie equivalent of Call of Duty honestly...

As for Captain Marvel, it will probably still make plenty of money, but it's a hard sell. Not only does she come across as boring and relatively unlikeable here, but her character comes with a history that makes Aquaman's unpopularity look tame by comparison. Raped by her own time-travelling son? The flagship face for everything that went wrong with Marvel Comics and then some? Yeah, it won't be easy.

Box Office Prediction is $600-$700million

The issue is, if the movie isn't appealing enough to normies, they may not wanna bother with the next CM movie. Especially since the MCU is sorta gonna be less connected after Endgame (basically you won't need to see every movie).

 

[gobbogobb]

Box Office Prediction is $600-$700million

The issue is, if the movie isn't appealing enough to normies, they may not wanna bother with the next CM movie. Especially since the MCU is sorta gonna be less connected after Endgame (basically you won't need to see every movie).

Good, Disney knows people are burning out. A pick and choose what you want to watch strategy sounds great imo.

@That Chris Guy: non comics nerds don't know all that and dont care to learn.

 

[That Chris Guy]

Infinity War, for me, is the modern day Empire Strikes Back. Absolutely love it, and I can't tell you how many times I've seen it since it came out to theaters. The specific MCU movies I mentioned are definitely blockbusters, but I think they're blockbusters with a little something more on their mind.

I wish I could see it that way too, but they're just not the same. Why? Because the stakes couldn't be any lower if they tried. We already know that most of the characters who died have been signed on for sequels, so they're obviously all going to be coming back since The Mouse won't just piss away the movies it worked hard to build up. The only cause for concern has been outside of the movies where Gunn was fired for his kiddy-fiddling jokes, bringing the continuation of GotG into question. The other characters (Buck, Vision, etc.) very few people give a rats about, so whilst I'm hoping for some kind of twist that will make the movie entertaining I simply don't see it happening in any meaningful context. Not to A-Log, but prove me wrong, Russo Brothers.

Box Office Prediction is $600-$700million

Ant-Man and the Wasp only made about $680 million, but brand power might bring it up to that level. Guess we'll see how invincible Disney Marvel's name is, since this is about as risky a choice as they could make.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

I wish I could see it that way too, but they're just not the same. Why? Because the stakes couldn't be any lower if they tried. We already know that most of the characters who died have been signed on for sequels, so they're obviously all going to be coming back since The Mouse won't just piss away the movies it worked hard to build up. The only cause for concern has been outside of the movies where Gunn was fired for his kiddy-fiddling jokes, bringing the continuation of GotG into question. The other characters (Buck, Vision, etc.) very few people give a rats about, so whilst I'm hoping for some kind of twist that will make the movie entertaining I simply don't see it happening in any meaningful context. Not to A-Log, but prove me wrong, Russo Brothers.

Using death to define the dramatic stakes of a superhero or fantasy movie is silly. There's never been any question that the heroes will prevail at the end of any of these films. The excitement of a superhero film revolves around the heroes overcoming impossible odds to defeat the villain and save the day.

 

[That Chris Guy]

Using death to define the dramatic stakes of a superhero or fantasy movie is silly. There's never been any question that the heroes will prevail at the end of any of these films. The excitement of a superhero film revolves around the heroes overcoming impossible odds to defeat the villain and save the day.

Spoiler: Off-topic

I'll admit you have a point that heroes overcoming odds in order to triumph is what makes these movies exciting. I guess what I'm hoping for is something that I don't feel the movie is going to provide, like how Luke trying to redeem his father was unexpected given how ESB played out.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Especially since the MCU is sorta gonna be less connected after Endgame (basically you won't need to see every movie).

Hell, I'm not convinced that it is necessary to watch CM before Endgame. I thought the mid-credits scene in Infinity War was a waste because the setup felt too contrived. I have the feeling that the marketing department at Disney and Marvel are unsure of how to promote Captain Marvel. Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor are taking a heavy sci-fi/space fantasy bent so CM is not unique in that regard. All they seem to have is the less-than-subtle woke marketing, which frankly feels like overcompensating because Wonder Woman hit theatres first. Kevin Feige may say otherwise, but I sense that there were people at Disney/Marvel that were hoping that WW would struggle like the rest of the DCEU or outright fail (not saying that Feige did, he appears to be magnanimous towards DC) so that CM would look better in comparison. WW makes over $800M and they say, "FUCK!" and try to double down on the female empowerment.

 

[Lensherr]

My problem with the MCU is not so much with the product itself, but the fans who put it on a goddamn pedestal and hold it up as the pinnacle of filmmaking. It's not. They are entertaining enough, but they're not Casablanca or Gone With the Wind.

There were sites that I used to frequent where the user base practically considered it heresy to say that an MCU film was less than good. TBH I used to think that way too, but then I started to watch more movies, gained some perspective and came to realize that these movies are the cinematic equivalent of comfort food: designed to make you feel good in the short term but empty in the long term.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

There were sites that I used to frequent where the user base practically considered it heresy to say that an MCU film was less than good. TBH I used to think that way too, but then I started to watch more movies, gained some perspective and came to realize that these movies are the cinematic equivalent of comfort food: designed to make you feel good in the short term but empty in the long term.

This may veer off-topic, but my experience was with someone who effectively worshipped the MCU to point that he had to take needless potshots the DCEU. All right. BvS, Suicide Squad, and Justice League are bad films, but he acted as if Zack Snyder and Geoff Johns boarded a Legion Time Bubble and molested him as a child. He looked for any reason to hate on Wonder Woman. He mocked Gal Gadot's ability to speak English (which she speaks fine, it's just heavily accented) and incessantly claimed Chief Napi's portrayal was racist despite the fact Patty Jenkins went out of her way to be accommodating to Eugene Brave Rock.

I have no doubt that he's going to shill hard for Captain Marvel because was always yelling, "Oscar-winning Actress!" Don't get me wrong, I don't exactly want CM to fail, but the hype feels contrived and many of the people hyping the film come off as Pavlov's dogs. Like you said, it's cinematic comfort food and I usually watch an MCU film only once with little desire to watch it again.

 

[Wärring Ornac]

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/0...ction-review-early-screening-cat-brie-larson/

The first screening of Captain Marvel has reportedly taken place, prompting a positive reaction to one character in particular.

According to industry insider Steve Weintraub, the big conversation after Captain Marvel showed off an advanced screening was in regards to Carol Danvers' cat Goose. "Hearing Captain Marvelscreened," Weintraub wrote in a tweet. "After it ended everyone was talking about the cat. Stole the show."


While the cat's meow doesn't seem to be any solid indication of whether or not the movie as a whole was good or bad, the end of the tweet could offer some hope for those with questions. "Must. See. This. Movie. Stat," Weintraub said. Surely, he wouldn't want to see a movie he heard was bad, right?

Of course, the cat which seems to be stealing the show is a key character from Marvel Comics. The well-fed house cat goes by the name of Chewie in those books but has been renamed Goose for the purposes of the Captain Marvel movie. It's an interesting choice considering Spider-Man: Homecoming and Spider-Man: Far From Home acknowledge the existence of Star Wars movies within the Marvel Cinematic Universe. However, given the fact that Captain Marvel is set in 1990s, the Top Gun influence might simply be more important to the character of Carol Danvers.


It's also unclear whether or not Goose will be a Flerken, the dangerous alien race which Carol's cat is in the comics. A number of science-fiction elements come into play due to Chewie's alien race but none have been on display in Captain Marvel trailers or promotional materials yet. Fans, however, are hoping Carol's pet will feature those comic book traits and play a key part in the film, as a result.

>the only thing that are being talked about in the movie is a cat

 

[MI 814]

When a movie sucks but the shills can't admit it, they will fixate on it's one redeeming quality and shill the fuck out of that one element.

Like how TLJ defenders said the movie had great visual effects.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Huge red flag when all people are talking about after seeing the movie is a cat ...

As I've said before, if the movie sucks, then whatever. We can all move on. The thing I AM worried about, though, is if this movie is going to ruin Avengers: Endgame ...

Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel has been proven time and time again that she is NOT popular among comic book fans. They've had to reboot her story in the comic books almost 10 fucking times over the course of a handful of years because she's just not popular ... Yet Marvel keeps shoving her down everyone's throats.

Looks like the same damn thing is going to happen to the movies now. Damn it. Stop trying to make Carol Danvers happen, Marvel.

We could have had a movie starring Jude Law as Mar-Vell ...

 

[Pickle Inspector]

I feel like this Captain Marvel could work well in a team setting with a bunch of different personalities. Her being a stoic, hardass, stick in the mud could be pretty entertaining if she was paired against a more comedic, jokey, lighthearted character, like the straight man to the goofball. That sort of duo could bounce off each other well.

Unfortunately though, I don't think we're going to get any of that in this movie. It seems like she's going relatively solo, which means that we're stuck with just stoic, hardass, stick in the mud Carol.

Now that Marvel know animals are popular maybe they'll add Squirrel Girl or something next time.

 

[Absolutego]

Now that Marvel know animals are popular maybe they'll add Squirrel Girl or something next time.

Please no. I've seen what the actual comics division has done to Squirrel Girl and reallllly don't want to see how Marvel Studios might top them.

 

[madethistocomment]

Now that Marvel know animals are popular maybe they'll add Squirrel Girl or something next time.

Oh God no. If she's anything like what they've recently been doing to her it'd be abysmal.