Deaf Community - "No such thing as hearing loss, just Deaf gain!"

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I've posted a few times in other threads about my middle school ASL teacher who was kinda nutty like this. She wasn't deaf, and wished she was, it was really bizarre.

There was this video on facebook about a girl being taken away from her grandma- and it was very clear said girl was in distress- and all this woman had to say was how rude it was that the poster of the video didn't put captions on for D e a f people.

Honestly, I think it's fine if they ask for captions, doesn't bother me. It's just that so many have sticks up their asses and are so eager to call someone out for being rude just because they had the nerve to not caption a video.
Whoever made the video probably didn't even think to caption it, I don't understand why folks jump straight to assuming someone was maliciously trying to harm them over things like this.
 
which turns full on serial killer as he signs that he has acquired the corpse and then proceeds to not only film her desiccated body...but also decides to give it a vigorous tongue bath. Then upload it to Youtube.

Oh god he really kisses a mummyfied corpse! Too bad she didn't came back to life and strangled him.
 
About five or six years ago, working for the district, we had a student whose parents were both Deaf Community. Jesus fucking Christ, Kiwis, these people. Their child was deaf too but was adept at communicating what she needed to with gestures because not everyone understands sign language or the like.

Her parents, however? Holy shit. Like seriously, I do not have proper words to accurately describe the sheer sense of unadulterated nonsense we went through with these parents. They would flat-out refuse to communicate with us in any fashion directly, even with staffers who could only use simple sign language. They would get impossibly offended if you suggested they fucking read a written thing as opposed to communicated it with sign language. Don't understand sign language? Don't worry, they'll treat you like you're fucking retarded and push for you to be removed, especially if, for example, you tried to communicate with them by pointing at something - that is, when they deign to fucking communicate with you at all. Not a single staffer assigned this route lasted more than six weeks except for like six of us, myself included (and I would never willingly do this one again after the summer I did so).

What brings this further into the realm of ridiculousness is that the parents were somehow, despite being both deaf and almost entirely incapable of vocal communication according to the management, were somehow able to make sure that if they got angry at you, the fucking district would be aware of it within the hour. Perpetually offended, and fucking livid if they had to make any concessions whatsoever to a world that does not give a fuck about their disability.
 
I don't know if this old case relates...


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/apr/08/davidteather

Gosh, that was over a decade ago. Wonder what happened to the kid since then. He'd be a teen by now....
I've definitely seen straight deaf people express desire to only have deaf kids. I've also heard hearing children of deaf parents often have a hard time since they always have to act as interpreter, so maybe it's better for deaf people to have deaf kids.
 
People who are “hearing impaired” at all are considered disabled under the Americans with Disabilities Act, so they are disabled under the letter of the law.

I have epilepsy and I’m disabled. Doesn’t bother my ass. These fags need to come to grips with the notion that being disabled doesn’t mean you can’t function in society.

Id argue being required to take anti-epileptics is a disability in of its self.
 
Apparently, from what I've been told by people involved (schools, ASL interpreters/instructors, etc), there's a really high rate of teen pregnancies in the deaf community. Couple that with the high unemployment rate and the often cult-like mentality, I'm kind of surprised that I haven't seen many deaf lolcows aside from Kylie.
 
I literally cannot comprehend why anyone would think that a debilitating disability is a good thing.
Because it's not deliberating to them, they're oblivious that everyone else might have an issue with them. Doesn't help that the word "deaf" is just two letters shy from "death".
 
About five or six years ago, working for the district, we had a student whose parents were both Deaf Community. Jesus fucking Christ, Kiwis, these people. Their child was deaf too but was adept at communicating what she needed to with gestures because not everyone understands sign language or the like.

Her parents, however? Holy shit. Like seriously, I do not have proper words to accurately describe the sheer sense of unadulterated nonsense we went through with these parents. They would flat-out refuse to communicate with us in any fashion directly, even with staffers who could only use simple sign language. They would get impossibly offended if you suggested they fucking read a written thing as opposed to communicated it with sign language. Don't understand sign language? Don't worry, they'll treat you like you're fucking exceptional and push for you to be removed, especially if, for example, you tried to communicate with them by pointing at something - that is, when they deign to fucking communicate with you at all. Not a single staffer assigned this route lasted more than six weeks except for like six of us, myself included (and I would never willingly do this one again after the summer I did so).

What brings this further into the realm of ridiculousness is that the parents were somehow, despite being both deaf and almost entirely incapable of vocal communication according to the management, were somehow able to make sure that if they got angry at you, the fucking district would be aware of it within the hour. Perpetually offended, and fucking livid if they had to make any concessions whatsoever to a world that does not give a fuck about their disability.
Was the district expected to provide an interpreter for her as a disability accommodation?
Also kinda surprised a deaf person would be going to a regular school--don't they usually go to special schools where everything is taught in ASL?
 
I don't know if this old case relates...


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/apr/08/davidteather

Gosh, that was over a decade ago. Wonder what happened to the kid since then. He'd be a teen by now....

Some people look at it like, 'Oh my gosh, you shouldn't have a child who has a disability,'" said Ms McCullough, the boy's adoptive mother. "But, you know, black people have harder lives. Why shouldn't parents be able to go ahead and pick a black donor if that's what they want? They should have that option. They can feel related to that culture, bonded with that culture."

What does this mean!? Is Deaf a race now? Are they saying that blacks have a harder time in live because of genetics? Is having a black baby hard mode on the game of Life? I'm sure they said this to sound progressive, but it sounds so racist.
 
Apparently, from what I've been told by people involved (schools, ASL interpreters/instructors, etc), there's a really high rate of teen pregnancies in the deaf community. Couple that with the high unemployment rate and the often cult-like mentality, I'm kind of surprised that I haven't seen many deaf lolcows aside from Kylie.
Interesting, I've never heard of an unusually high rate of teen pregnancy. Anecdotally, I've never known or even heard of a deaf Deaf student getting knocked up in my years of being in three schools for the deaf in two different states. Maybe I've lucked out.

What does this mean!? Is Deaf a race now? Are they saying that blacks have a harder time in live because of genetics? Is having a black baby hard mode on the game of Life? I'm sure they said this to sound progressive, but it sounds so racist.
The other day, I was discussing my own frustrations with deaf Deaf peers with my (hard of hearing) therapist. She said that hating deaf Deaf people is just like hating blacks, i.e. being a racist. FML.

Can't one be a member of a community and be critical of it without being necessarily bigoted or having some degree of self-loathing?
 
But who cares, I feel like a cyborg with it. It's pretty cool!
You and me!

I was always surprised we didn't have this thread.

Hey remember when some deaf assholes decided that because a small minority of people on the planet couldn't benefit from free knowledge released on the internet, no one can?

https://www.insidehighered.com/news...delete-publicly-available-educational-content
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/13/...d-over-failing-to-caption-online-courses.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html?noredirect=on

Rundown:
There was a time when you could basically audit most or all classes at major universities (Harvard, MIT, etc) for free thanks to visual\audio recording. They just set up recording equipment in the classrooms and then streamed it for free to whomever wanted to watch. Think about how amazing it was that, thanks to 2015 technology, some poor black kid in Alabama with no money to leave his town could learn about astrophysics by watching some of the most accomplished minds teach as long as he could find an internet connection, even a local library.

But not anymore! Because a number of assholes (particularly Stacy Nowak and Glenn Lockhart) decided that wasn't good enough. So, the universities faced a choice. They could either pay huge amounts of money to transcribe the videos and audio to the specifications required (for a program they were offering for free to everyone) or end it. Since they weren't going to make any of that money back, guess what they did? Stacy and Glenn don't care, they have all the jobs and degrees they need already. You'd think maybe they would have raised money to help transcribe the stuff themselves instead of suing, but nah.
There was this video on facebook about a girl being taken away from her grandma- and it was very clear said girl was in distress- and all this woman had to say was how rude it was that the poster of the video didn't put captions on for D e a f people.

Honestly, I think it's fine if they ask for captions, doesn't bother me. It's just that so many have sticks up their asses and are so eager to call someone out for being rude just because they had the nerve to not caption a video.

I understand the importance of closed captioning, it's so important that it's a requirement stated by Americans with Disabilities Act. I'm a very nosy person so hell yes, I like to know what is going on with everything.

I wish they all would chill out. Yes, I get it can be pretty frustrating repeating the same request again and again almost every day, but, this is not a good excuse to be an asshole. Deaf community desperately needs to be held accountable for acting like a bunch of animals when it come to requesting for accessibility. Often, when it comes to requesting for accessibility, I almost never see them try to sit down and guide them through the process. But no. It's as they want to keep this one-sided to make up for their Deaf bitterness.

On the related note, check this out: #NoMoreCRAPtions



I just wonder what is wrong with these people (and the part of the autistic community which is adamantly against any kind of cure or treatment, which is the majority nowadays) to make them so prideful and tribalistic. Oh wait, don't have to wonder with the autistic community. That kind of makes me wonder if autism and deafness is comorbid...
I vaguely remember reading from somewhere, the autistic community is following into Deaf community's path to captialize the letter "A" for Autistic.



I know they dislike cochlear implants, but what about hearing aids meant for people who still have some ability to hear? Or, like, I used to be some degree of hearing impaired as a kid and I had a bunch of surgeries and now I'm fine--would that also be bad in their view?
That's a good question. Back then before cochlear implant took over the popularity, the Deaf community had the exact same hate and concern for hearing aides. Like with cochlear implants, they felt like hearing aides are a way to kill off the Deaf culture aka "cultural genocide" (Not my words.)
If you have a excellent grasp on ASL and is part of the "Elite" Deaf community, then you're safe. Actually, fuck what they think.



I'm kind of surprised that I haven't seen many deaf lolcows aside from Kylie.
An early version of my original post had links to all Deaf lolcows. I think it's ok for me to link them all here. Cheer.
· https://kiwifarms.net/threads/brendan-keith-wheesk-brendanwh-cure-brendan-kloxplex-network.47028/
· https://kiwifarms.net/threads/markie-mark-lee-dragonesslife.14070/
· https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kyle-anthony-kylie-cassandra-jesse-brooks-queerdykekylie.10316/
· https://kiwifarms.net/threads/christopher-dugger-deliriumsade-christina-autumn-taylor-etc.36919/


Was the district expected to provide an interpreter for her as a disability accommodation?
Also kinda surprised a deaf person would be going to a regular school--don't they usually go to special schools where everything is taught in ASL?

That's a good question.

Majority of the deaf people was born to hearing families and often they weren't exposed to the Deaf community (I don't blame them.) so it makes sense for a lot of us to end up attending public school. School for the Deaf are very small in numbers and within the past decade, there's an increase in those schools for the Deaf closing down for good. Which that really suck for some Deaf people who are "plateaued" on learning to speak and listen only that's the "norm" in many schools. A plenty of public schools don't like teaching ASL to deaf children because they were misled by Alexander Graham Bell's ideology into believing it hindered our development and that ASL is some kind of spooky bad mojo shit. Hence, as a result, people are not trying it out to see which method of language would work the best to help deaf kids to learn. It's a no wonder why there's a lot of us, including myself, are walking out there with broken English and lower IQ. I've seen too many troubled deaf children grow into a criminal that doesn't speak or understand what's socially acceptable. After being arrested, they can't even get their rights read to them in a way their brain would comprehend. They have no language in their system, not even an ASL interpreter going to work on them.

While I criticize the Deaf community, I will criticize the system that's harming the Deaf community because whatever they are doing, they bred way too many unnecessarily stupid Deaf people.



What does this mean!? Is Deaf a race now?

There's a debate going on for a very long time about if they should be seen as an ethnic group or not. If this isn't the whole new level of being a special snowflake then I don't know what it is.
 
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How autistic do you have to be to care about whether a term is upper or lower-cased when being identified by your disability?
 
I've definitely seen straight deaf people express desire to only have deaf kids. I've also heard hearing children of deaf parents often have a hard time since they always have to act as interpreter, so maybe it's better for deaf people to have deaf kids.

Aren't there actual cases of deaf parents mutilating their hearing kids just so they'll feel special?
 
I've had this thread idea in my back of my head for months, but @Dragon Face did a better job of it than I could have and clearly has more experience/knowledge of this thread subject. Well done!

Anyway, I think the deaf community is a very interesting topic. They have a very weird sense of superiority/"otherness" that you don't see in many other groups. It honestly feels like some deaf (or rather Deaf) people believe they are superior to us mere mortals who have all five senses. And honestly, all of their arguments about deafness being a "culture" sound kind of cult-like. Support communities are wonderful, but they can become harmful if they start cultivating an "us vs. them" mentality and actively try to prevent members from leaving.

Take the controversy over cochlear implants, for example. Whenever you hear news about a child/baby getting a cochlear implant, there are always hordes of Deaf people who scream about how terrible it is that parents are "stealing" the child away from the deaf community and "enforcing" their version of normalcy on them. Uh, no. Wanting to keep your culture going doesn't justify robbing anyone of a sense that could be repaired. No child deserves to never hear music, or birdsong, or the sound of their mother's voice. And that's not even getting into how hard it is to fit into society when you can't hear or speak. Why should a parent subject their child to that if it can be fixed?
 
Aren't there actual cases of deaf parents mutilating their hearing kids just so they'll feel special?

There was at least one case that someone basically pranked that scenario to make fun of parents that don't want their kids to have implants, which could have become something of a legend. Doesn't mean there's never been a real case I guess.

There is this though:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/mar/09/genetics.medicalresearch

"Like any other three-year-old child, Molly has brought joy to her parents. Bright-eyed and cheerful, Molly is also deaf - and that is an issue which vexes her parents, though not for the obvious reasons. Paula Garfield, a theatre director, and her partner, Tomato Lichy, an artist and designer, are also deaf and had hoped to have a child who could not hear.

'We celebrated when we found out about Molly's deafness,' says Lichy. 'Being deaf is not about being disabled, or medically incomplete - it's about being part of a linguistic minority. We're proud, not of the medical aspect of deafness, but of the language we use and the community we live in.'

Now the couple are hoping to have a second child, one they also wish to be deaf - and that desire has brought them into a sharp confrontation with Parliament. The government's Human Fertilisation and Embryology (HFE) bill, scheduled to go through the Commons this spring, will block any attempt by couples like Garfield and Lichy to use modern medical techniques to ensure their children are deaf..."

When I think of parents doing this to their kids I remember this speech (can't embed or it'll start at the begining):
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4uo5cv?start=2197
 
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