Deaf Community - "No such thing as hearing loss, just Deaf gain!"

[Slav Power]

I really like how United States have somehow developed this idea that if you have a crippling disability, like not being able to hear, or being morbidly obese, then it's okay for you to be that way, to do absolutely nothing with it, and to turn it into a virtue and then call anyone who sincerely tells you to improve on those aspects for your own good mean words. It's a very interesting phenomenon.

As someone from the center of Europe with impeccable hearing, I personally know two people with hearing impairment. An old classmate who would constantly crack jokes about being deaf despite the loss only being partial, and we would crack the same jokes at them and we would all have a good laugh, and a family member whose hearing has been impaired since birth (breech birth), to the point where their speech is also impaired, where I need to speak loud and clear and then I have to take a second to understand what they're saying.

Both of them got dealt a shitty hand in life, both of them managed to overcome their disabilities to move forward in life, and both are doing well as functioning members of society despite their hearing impairment. And I accept them both, they're completely normal people and I don't judge them because it wasn't their fault. And even if their disability gets in the way of communication, I am patient to overcome it.

I have never heard of people like this, where they refuse to improve on themselves and make a virtue out of it, outside of the US. It seems to be a more broader issue with the US, where absolutely everything has to be extremely soft and cushiony for absolutely everyone without any exception, which leads to shit like morbidly obese people saying they're "plus sized", and calling anyone that tells them to lose weight "fatshamers", while they can barely walk and they will die prematurely.

Perhaps it worsened in the US with the slow and steady erosion of old values to turn everything upside down (which is also slowly seeping into Europe), and maybe it was an underlying issue in the American society long before that. Needless to say it's very interesting and the "Deaf" community is yet another example of it.

A bunch of people who decide to base their whole personality on a personal fault they should actively work towards correcting, as that's the only thing they have, and in America there is this odd consensus that it's absolutely fine and they don't get marginalized as a fringe group that's not being taken seriously.

 

[doomocract]

@Slav Power , can't quote all post but fuck you got what I think in that message. I am constant trying to improve, not being laze about it

 

[Slav Power]

@Slav Power , can't quote all post but fuck you got what I think in that message. I am constant trying to improve, not being laze about it

Select the text and use the quote/reply buttons that show up after the selection. If you hover over the grayed out buttons you'll get a tooltip telling you that.

 

[doomocract]

Perhaps it worsened in the US with the slow and steady erosion of old values to turn everything upside down (which is also slowly seeping into Europe), and maybe it was an underlying issue in the American society long before that. Needless to say it's very interesting and the "Deaf" community is yet another example of it.

Oh shit it work's, thank you.

That said... yeah us deaf ppl acknowledge ther is sorta a death of society going on right now

 

[The Morning Visitor]

It is so fascinating to me that deafness is the one disability that has the potential to induct people into a group of self-centered, paranoid assholes. I guess autism is on its way there, but 'D'eaf Culture is an absolute blight on human progress.

People who happen to be deaf are fine. It is a disability. There's no shame in it, but it probably sucks to not hear and I'm glad the 21st century has modern conveniences like video calls, readily available ASL interpreters and cochlear implants. The 'D'eaf Community, however, treats themselves like they're a racial minority. The 'D'eaf Community treats giving babies the sense of hearing like the Black Community would if black babies were getting their skin bleached and sent to kindergarten at private schools in affluent neighborhoods.

It really must suck to not have hearing, I can understand why so many people are bitter about it and you all have my sympathy. It does not help to spread disinformation about cochlear implants because you're terrified of being one of the last people on the planet to require ASL. It also does not help to put in roadblocks against freely offered educational videos just because closed captioning wasn't offered on those non-profit videos. Real bucket of crabs mentality.

 

[ZsaZsaBinks]

It is so fascinating to me that deafness is the one disability that has the potential to induct people into a group of self-centered, paranoid assholes. I guess autism is on its way there, but 'D'eaf Culture is an absolute blight on human progress.

Disability rights activists love to pretend that disability is just a difference, but at the same time go on about how debilitating it is to be disabled and they’re too disabled to do anything. I never know what they want.

People who happen to be deaf are fine. It is a disability. There's no shame in it, but it probably sucks to not hear and I'm glad the 21st century has modern conveniences like video calls, readily available ASL interpreters and cochlear implants. The 'D'eaf Community, however, treats themselves like they're a racial minority. The 'D'eaf Community treats giving babies the sense of hearing like the Black Community would if black babies were getting their skin bleached and sent to kindergarten at private schools in affluent neighborhoods.

I wish these pricks would quit comparing disability to race. How is it even the same thing? And some people think being a certain race is debilitating.

It really must suck to not have hearing, I can understand why so many people are bitter about it and you all have my sympathy. It does not help to spread disinformation about cochlear implants because you're terrified of being one of the last people on the planet to require ASL. It also does not help to put in roadblocks against freely offered educational videos just because closed captioning wasn't offered on those non-profit videos. Real bucket of crabs mentality.

They most likely don’t know better if they have always been deaf. But I feel like most people in the Deaf community are either self-diagnosed or hard of hearing. They see deafness as a subculture instead of an obstacle.

 

[Poyo Sato]

Lately, it seems that there's a rise in popularity or awareness of sign language in Indonesia. That in itself is not necessarily a bad thing, but the thing is, somehow it made the local deaf communities into some kind of authoritarian assholes.

They demand that every people should learn sign language to accomodate them. However, when they see people learning or using sign language, they'll comment on them that they should be ONLY learning the Indonesian Sign Language instead of ASL or whatever, and also ONLY be taught by actual deaf people, proficiency notwithstanding.

There's also some social media posts where they complain about people pitying on them or treat them like people with disabilities. They went on about how they don't need pity, they can do anything normal people can do. They're just different.

But when faced with some annoyance or inconveniences, they'll complain like they're the biggest victim of opressions by society. I remember my wife showed me that some deaf on social media complaining about snack packaging that you have to use both hands to hold and eat the snack. It annoys them because they can't use sign language while eating the snack.

 

[AnOminous]

Lately, it seems that there's a rise in popularity or awareness of sign language in Indonesia. That in itself is not necessarily a bad thing, but the thing is, somehow it made the local deaf communities into some kind of authoritarian assholes.

Fuck Deaf people. And by that I specifically mean the capital-D kind.

 

[Behavioral Sink]

Paris is most certainly a cow and we'd love to hear more about her.
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I read this thread back when it was new, but can someone refresh my memory about whether Paris Glass ever came up? When I searched the site she came up in this other thread I quoted, but if I'm going to necro a thread I figured it would fit better in this one.

I made the mistake of looking up gay words in ASL, and instead of Nyle DiMarco the algorithm gods gave me her/them.

She claims to be an ASL interpreter who went deaf. But she gives off big munchie vibes. She's also claimed autism, epilepsy, Ehlers-Danlos, etc.

She's also a singer, releasing an album. Deaf musicians, I get. You can play an instrument without hearing it. But if the instrument is your voice, are you able to have good vocal control without auditory feedback?

She posted one day at the end of 2021 that she was losing hearing in one ear from medication, and might lose the other. Then pretty much the very next day: "So I guess I'll be posting more signing content for a bit." Then straight into calling out hearing people who post ASL videos, and calling herself part of the Deaf community.

She can post ASL content, and teach ASL, because she's Deaf now. But she's also pursuing a singing career.

This one was a bit fun:

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMkYKMTQ1/

Archive:

I wonder if her clients disliked her as much as her classmate. Maybe the short-lived interpreting career was more of a grind than she expected. Or maybe she just wanted indentity credit, to be able to post ASL music interpretations under woke rules.

Has anyone mined her content already? I'd doubt she's interesting enough to sustain a thread. But I'm curious if anyone has any gossip or opinions. (My opinion is that I believe her when she says she has autism.)

ETA: I scrolled back 3 or 4 pages before posting, but turns she did come up just one further. My quick search missed it because the discussion was under her Daddy username. Sorry for missing that. Still curious about the singing while deaf thing, though.

 

[LOWERCASE LETTERS]

Deaf retard who can't use a computer is hired to do a computer job and is fired for being a useless sack of shit. He files a federal lawsuit claiming discrimination but the court went "lolno".

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[WonderWino]

Deaf retard who can't use a computer is hired to do a computer job and is fired for being a useless sack of shit. He files a federal lawsuit claiming discrimination but the court went "lolno".

L A

Speaking of that deaf retard he's very busy acting like a loon in the comments section of that article:

Frankp 20 hours ago

As I write here I keep getting news about the fires right next to where you live. Do you think it's out there if maybe that's Karma? I know those hills like the back of my hand, although I moved long ago. I remember the 93 fire. In the Topanga fire in rode my bike up to the top and the fire truck drove me back down because my tire fell apart, only time I ever saw white people working in la. Black soot covered faces.

Frankp 20 hours ago

This job was supposed to be chat bots..Having worked at IBM does it make sense to make me responsible for coordinating shipments of laptops before I even start the job?

Frankp 20 hours ago

It takes time to reset a password if you have to call and get through extensive security proving who you are. That I have a cochlear implant makes it harder because they give you a random password by phone. Why the court thinks this proves my incompetence shows something seriously wrong there.

Frankp 5 days ago

I am the Plaintiff. Amazing how this post was written the same day as the decision, and the professor paid more attention to detail than the court. This seems impossible without having the decision on advance. The comments appeared immediately after the post, the same day as the decision, over the Christmas holiday.
The liberal judges here all lost reelection and seem to have taken it out on me. All their facts are all wrong. I coordinated nothing with IBM. In federal court IBM denied I ever worked for them or AT&T. It is true I never started the job. IBM sent the laptop I needed to my old address while I was moving across the country. The password did not work. They attacked me instead of fixing it. This was probably intentional because I had complained about H-1bs. So much for free speech professor!

Frankp 20 hours ago

I did chat with Eugene and he's a super fast reader so that explains the quick turnaround. Takes me time to go through legal docs.

It is hard to prove malice but that was not so clear here. The court believed everything defendants claim even when it's obvious nonsense. How could someone with a grad degree in computer science not be able to log in to a computer? The manager's statements about that were not consistent. He admitted lying multiple times. He knew I logged in but kept saying I couldn't because initially the password didn't work and it needed to be reset.

Actually there were multiple passwords to log in. AT&T is the one of the backbones of the internet. If one password was all I needed I could have accessed anyone's phone records. People assume tech workers have all access. Maybe at some tiny company. Everywhere else I've worked recently they give you written instructions to log in the first day and they're pages long. Let's see you lawyers get through that. AT&T is totally disorganized. Almost everyone else was Indian and they help each other. You can't do it alone based on ability. That's movie nonsense. Plus I signed agreements not to hack anything.

The court focused on issues related to my hearing, especially the password reset. I needed to call at&t help which everyone knows takes a long time. They claimed that this time was my fault, which is plainly a lie and they know it. Dallas is AT&T territory so the judges should know their customer service is terrible.

Slandering me for taking time to reset the password also contradicts the ADA. The manager referred to deaf mutes when he fired me. (In federal court they deny ever employing me.) In his emails he also mentioned deaf mutes, but in a way the court claims was acceptable. I have a cochlear implant so I'm not deaf. The manager claimed in person cochlear implants don't work. This is bigoted but does that make it not malice if he believes it true?

The court refers to the term deaf mute as outdated, but this is accurate. It is still used in countries like Mexico. Sordo Mudo is deaf mute. Two judges on this case are Latinas, one the first Mexican female judge in this court. They didn't write the decision but should know about Sordo Mudo. In Mexico they still believe deaf people can't communicate because until recently they did not give them any education. If you don't learn language at a young age you can never learn even sign language.

India also has deaf mutes and believe deaf people are incompetent. Several people on my IBM team were from India and I believe they bad mouthed me to the manager and called me a deaf mute. Is it not malice if people from India really believe deaf people are incompetent? This is like the child grooming rapes in England. Is it ok because they don't think it's rape?

Then the court followed a circular logic that it must be true if someone believes it. The court accepted bigotry as fact and even claimed it was proven. I have decades of experience and the court says they proved I'm incompetent because of a password. A few months ago the whole internet crashed because of password issues tied to Crowdstrike. They make passwords hard to reset.

The decision revolves around disability so much it contradicts disability law. The only example of my supposed incompetence noted by the court was resetting one password. I did reset it but they keep saying I did not even as they admitted I did reset it. This is malice.

Courts could use this decision to dismiss any ADA case. In fact the defendants lawyer told me this would happen. The decision contradicts Supreme Court decisions including Perez v Sturgis. from last year. This case involved a Mexican child who became a deaf mute because they didn't bother to teach him.

My appeal will be that defendants didn't prove the manager didn't know he was lying. It at least remains in dispute. His admission of lying and use of deaf mute support the idea that he was motivated by bigotry.

If the decision stands it could be used to attack not only the ADA, but all White men. That is the agenda here. Anyone can make wild claims against a white man and it's assumed to be true. Meanwhile even without dei or affirmative action you can't attack females or minorities or people will dismiss it as racist. In fact to say a Latina with a grad degree in CS can't log in would be racist. It's almost not possible to not be able to log in unless you are a literal deaf mute.
It's not minorities or women that are the real threat but foreign groups that have figured how to use this. People from India claim you're incompetent and that they're all highly skilled. Then they say our schools are failures and India is awesome. I graduated from one of the top 30 universities in the world. I started programming at UCLA extension twenty five years ago. There are no Indian universities in the top 500.

What a fucking wackjob. No wonder the court told him to gtfo. He talks exactly like you'd expect one of those deaf cult types to, paranoid and nonsensical and thinking everybody is out to get him

This is like if russell greer was deaf instead of the shit he's got

 

[batteredpancakes]

Came across this deaf family on Youtube shorts. They are celebrating the fact that their new son is HOH like his sister and parents. They phrase it as saying he "passed" his hearing test. According to them they can now immerse him in their culture as if they couldn't if he could hear.

Welcome to That Deaf Family Channel! I'm Estefani and I am Deaf. My husband's name is Oscar, and he is also Deaf and has cochlear implants. We have a Deaf daughter, Everlyn, and Hard of Hearing son, Jabez. I like sharing our life stories as a Deaf family and share contents that focus on parents communicating with their child/ren communicate by American Sign Language.

They're also really religious and homeschool.
They even have their own online shop

 

[GenociderSyo]

The sign language on the shirts is "I passed the KODA (sic) test" and "I passed the DEAF test."

Coda means child of a deaf parent and ususally means a child that isolated because they can hear and the parents cannot and they end up parentalized very early.

 

[Terffals]

The sign language on the shirts is "I passed the KODA (sic) test" and "I passed the DEAF test."

Coda means child of a deaf parent and ususally means a child that isolated because they can hear and the parents cannot and they end up parentalized very early.

And there are entire communities/support groups for CODA because of how abusive and toxic their childhoods usually are.

Spoiler: Slight PL

Im a (grand)CODA, my dad’s parents were deaf and he ran away from home in his teens because of how terrible he was treated. They pulled him out of school more than 50% of days to act as their personal translator. They beat him if they found him watching TV or talking on the phone, because they thought he was talking behind their back. And forbid him to ever have any speaking friends.

 

[God's strongest milkman]

I kinda can't believe this but I searched the entire thread, and also the entire forum and there's a deaf guy that actually does have a thread but it has like 5 posts and died in 2015.

There's a fucking guy named Mark lee or dragonesslife. Although I've always called him m "Deaf Giantess" he is a deaf guy that makes his own fetish movies about being eaten and crushed by the feet of giant women.

Amongst Other things.
You can just look up "deaf giantess" on YouTube and you will find tons of things done by this guy. Obviously he doesn't include any audio or music in his videos which really takes away from the cinematic experience of the three abrahamic faiths finding out that God is actually a giant hot blonde and signing in shock about it, but hey, I can't knock him for that I guess.

Deaf fetish content is weirdly surreal in a way that's hard to describe.

 

[Tari]

It is so fascinating to me that deafness is the one disability that has the potential to induct people into a group of self-centered, paranoid assholes. I guess autism is on its way there, but 'D'eaf Culture is an absolute blight on human progress.

These people have been assholes since before Weimar and they're proud of it.

 

[Behavioral Sink]

I'm on their side, actually. (Edit: The "yay our kid is deaf" couple.) If they're a deaf signing family then the kid will be better off deaf, from a language and psychology perspective. If he was hearing, he'd bear the burden of interpreting for his parents. CODAs have it rough. If deaf parents have a deaf kid, he just gets to be a kid.

It's also pretty natural to want your kids to be like you. You don't get to impose it on them. But it's not super unusual to *want* them to share your language or religion or love of baseball.

All that said, you gotta be careful documenting "Thank God My Kid Is Deaf, It Would Suck To Have A Hearing Baby!" on the internet. Because then your subsequent hearing child is going to grow up internalizing all that disappointment. (Edit: looks like they tried to fix that with the "passed the koda test", haha.)

 

[batteredpancakes]

I'm on their side, actually. (Edit: The "yay our kid is deaf" couple.) If they're a deaf signing family then the kid will be better off deaf, from a language and psychology perspective. If he was hearing, he'd bear the burden of interpreting for his parents. CODAs have it rough. If deaf parents have a deaf kid, he just gets to be a kid.

Remember you're only a kid for the first ~15 years of your life. He gets to spend the further 65+ years struggling to find jobs, struggling to fit in with 99% of the world, struggling to communicate with everyone around him, etc. Your parents really don't have much influence on your entire life; it's why people can often move on with their lives after experiencing an abusive childhood.

It's bad because he forcefully stuck in this life. He's robbed from experiencing different experiences and outside perspectives because the deafness (and homeschooling) stops him from interacting from anyone outside his family and his parent-selected friends. That's why his parents are happy; he's now not able to be influenced by strangers outside their cult. They can control him.

 

[GenociderSyo]

They have found a way to genetically cure some forms of deafness. I'm sure you know how the community is responding to this.