After decades of relegating its LGBTQ characters to the sidelines, Marvel really turned things around with America and Iceman, its first two ongoing series featuring queer characters as their titular leads. Both books have been important additions to Marvel’s ever-expanding portfolio, but it seems as if the time has come for at least one of them to end. March’s comics solicitations are out this week and a number of titles including America are conspicuously missing, which heavily implies that the titles have been canceled. This afternoon, Marvel editor Heather Antos confirmed that Gwenpool, another title missing from the March solicits, was definitely canceled, further suggesting that any titles missing from the lineup as of today are done for.
Culture Marvel is cancelling their sjw comics after getting bitch slapped by the Chad free market.
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So now its time for the SJW to move on to the MCU right? Or are they too loaded with money that they can't get any influence
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How many times must we go through this before people puzzle out that radical leftists are simply allergic to the concept of paying for anything, ever, and are not a viable audience for targeted media?
They will not "vote with their wallets". It hasn't happened and never will. We see industry after industry make attempts at using them as a target demo, and it blows up every single time.
They do not buy vidya. They do not buy comics. They do not pay for music or movies, or your shitty t-shirts, or whatever the hell you're flogging today.
These comic franchises died because the only people who buy physical comics anymore are a subculture of obsessive collectors, and those people don't give a shit about the ideas you're appealing to. SJW's give many shits, but they don't give you money unless you're ebegging on gofundme.
They'll write a dozen think pieces about how you're brave for making the new Wolverine an albino trans dyke, but they will never, ever spend money on it, and frankly Marvel should've seen that coming to begin with.
You are attempting to sell merch to welfare queens and communists. Give up, go back to appeasing your base, and stop trying to extract blood from a stone.
They will not "vote with their wallets". It hasn't happened and never will. We see industry after industry make attempts at using them as a target demo, and it blows up every single time.
They do not buy vidya. They do not buy comics. They do not pay for music or movies, or your shitty t-shirts, or whatever the hell you're flogging today.
These comic franchises died because the only people who buy physical comics anymore are a subculture of obsessive collectors, and those people don't give a shit about the ideas you're appealing to. SJW's give many shits, but they don't give you money unless you're ebegging on gofundme.
They'll write a dozen think pieces about how you're brave for making the new Wolverine an albino trans dyke, but they will never, ever spend money on it, and frankly Marvel should've seen that coming to begin with.
You are attempting to sell merch to welfare queens and communists. Give up, go back to appeasing your base, and stop trying to extract blood from a stone.
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I'm picturing an event like Ultimatum (or whatever that shitty ultimate universe event was where The Wasp was literally eaten and Multiple Man aloha snackbar'd himself). One affirmative action hero death per page, with Riri's nappy head being the first on the chopping block.
Should get a solid 4 issues out if it, considering how many shit characters have been introduced since Marvel decided they didn't want sales anymore.
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Yeah, there's not a chance of that happening when Disney has normiebux to make with those films. They might get conciliatory nods like solo movies like Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and Ant-Man and The Wasp (I guess that one counts) but main heroes who aren't white men are all they're gonna get. Look at Star Wars where SJWs are mad that Kylo Ren and Rey might want to bone and also that Finn kissed an Asian lady instead of Poe.
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There aren't that many affirmative action heroes, and most can be salvaged if given to talented writers. Fem!Thor is already going to die in a few months (the apparent endgame from the start), Sam Wilson is back to being the Falcon and will probably fade to background character again after Marvel realizes he's too boring to support his own book.
Tony Stark will be back soon, and with Bendis leaving Riri and black spider-man will probably fade away unless a new writer wants to use them. The best thing Marvel could do with them is have them apprentice under Tony and Peter, which is what should have been done with Riri to begin with.
Bruce Banner is coming back, and Cho!Hulk isn't that bad in concept but feels like they didn't really know what they were doing storywise. Hopefully after World War Hulk II they figure out what the fuck they want to do with him.
All New Wolverine is pretty damn good, although I have to dock it for having at least two arcs being remakes of "classic" wolverine stories. That being said this is the most character development Laura has had in years and I haven't seen many people hating it.
The only real problem is Ms. Marvel, who was a much better character when she was just staring out. They need to have her get back to basics, at least within her own book. I think they pushed her onto the Avengers way too quickly, and Champions is a fucking shit show.
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The last time I picked up a Marvel book, Stephen Colbert was elected president. Why can't they just stick with goofy shit like that, it's not like Trump wanting to build a wall to keep Mexicans out matters in a world where the planet is either about to be hit by life-ending meteors thrown by Magneto or just eaten by Galactus every other month.
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I honestly don't read comics like I'm sure most of you guys do on a regular basis, but I can easily take notice that Marvel (and by extension at their worst, DC) have nearly all but forgotten, as of late, how to truly have fun with making their comics, while also bringing a serious air to balance things out... That begins with NOT shoving current-day politics into everything.
I know this much: IRL politics and comic book fantasy - they don't mix and they never have/will feasibly.
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Not even if it’s played as satire?
2000AD, once again doing years ago what the Americans still can’t today.
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I thought Hawkeye had a wife and kids, or was that just the MCU?View attachment 339251
A sign of salt to come or a lone REEE in the darkness because the people who pretended to give a shit about these comics have long since moved on?
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Not even if it’s played as satire?
2000AD, once again doing years ago what the Americans still can’t today.
It only works as satire, however. And that... That's A-OK.
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Satire is enjoyable when its done well, but with the oversaturation of politics and social pandering in every facet of media it becomes hard to even bother.
Try to find things that distract people from today's shitshow and instead (most of the time) you get autistic screeching on turning everything into a soapbox, shoehorning virtue signals and lamenting how the latest blockbuster/bestseller "missed an opportunity" to harp on about X issue.
Try to find things that distract people from today's shitshow and instead (most of the time) you get autistic screeching on turning everything into a soapbox, shoehorning virtue signals and lamenting how the latest blockbuster/bestseller "missed an opportunity" to harp on about X issue.
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About time they did something about this. Trying to focus almost entirely on the Social Justice types rarely works out well, for it often means alienating your loyal fanbase in favor of a vocal minority. A vocal minority that not only rarely buys your product (just make a few blogs praising you for being "progressive" or "woke"), but would also be more than happy to turn on your ass as soon as your company does something "problematic", such as having a sexual harassment scandal or even having a single comic issue depict something they deem "racist/sexist/etc.".
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Very important words here!
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Satire is supposed to be about saying things that either go against the narrative or talking about things that don't get attention. In other words, satire is supposed to be refreshing, innovative, and likely put the speaker at risk of being labeled unpopular because he's saying things we've all silently agreed not to say - thus you could argue there is a spark of bravery in satire.
Parroting the same exact points that every other approved content provider is already hitting us over the head with is not satire and it sure isn't brave. It's tired and lazy and smacks of bandwagon opportunism. If every clickbait rag and their mothers are already telling the world that Orange Hitler is a meanie and straight white people are nothing but fragile and selfish, standing on your own soapbox and wailing "wait up guys, me too!" is not being refreshing or innovative. Thanks to the toxic political climate that seeks to name-and-shame dissidents, every joe shmoe who even dares to post on Gab instead of Twitter is a better social commentator than woke Marvel.
Leave the safety of the flock, then we can talk about how valuable your individual thoughts are.
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That doesn't sound like a bad idea. Didn't Marvel once have a team made up entirely of minorities, whose entire schtick was basically how stereotypical they are? Why not put these assholes together to form the next generation of that shitty comic? They can even ressurect that team's Big Bad.
This motherfucker.
That particular team ended up getting disbanded (naturally). Extrano was the gay magician member of the team and he actually survived the bite from the gay nazi vampire because he already had AIDs to begin with. He's now dead and so is the teams plant powered hero; he died when Batman sliced off his head because he was growing super pot to get Gotham high. I cannot make this shit up.
Marvel has spent years trying to fit into the crowd of socially acceptable. One of my favorite old school artists John Severin was brought in to do a gay version of his existing character the Rawhide Kid.
He spent most of his time mincing, whining and bitching. It didn't last long.
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Nope. Extrano is alive and well in the DCU. He's changed his look from "flaming queen on a gay pride float" to "swiped Dr. Strange's steez" (which is appropriate, since "Extrano" is Spanish for "strange")
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Nope. Extrano is alive and well in the DCU. He's changed his look from "flaming queen on a gay pride float" to "swiped Dr. Strange's steez" (which is appropriate, since "Extrano" is Spanish for "strange")
That doesn't look too bad, tbh.
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