Crime Tiny Knife Wielding Tranny Shot By Cops

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tl;dr he committed suicide by cop over bathrooms. But in actuality he did it because he was mentally ill, was brain washed into believing his illness was a strength, and was indoctrinated into a cult.
 
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Also the whole "tiny knife" seems to come from dear ol' dad who sounds rather exceptional himself.

Scout's father Bill Schultz wrote about the shooting on Facebook, saying Scout had "a tiny knife."

"(Police) didn't have to shoot (Scout) in the heart, but that's what they did," Bill Schultz wrote. "Antifa activists beware!"
 
Seriously, though, couldn't they have just thrown a ball of paper at him and knocked him down?

Without seeing the video I can't really judge. People who don't shoot think that gun vs knife is an autowin for gun. That is not the case. There is something called the "reactionary gap" in defensive shooting. It takes ~1.5 seconds for a determined attacker to cover 21 feet and attack. This really comes into play when drawing from a holster/concealmen The time it takes a practiced shooter who actively draws from the holster during training and knows what they are doing to put a round center mass on target is between 1-2 seconds. Holster type, concealment, etc can all fudge this. That's what you'll see on the range when you are standing still and shooting at a target. You are not moving, the attacker is not moving, and your body alarm response isn't giving you fumble fingers.

There is something called the Tueller Drill that became a mainstay of police training in the early 80s where a shooter and a partner stand next to each other facing opposite directions at the firing line. The partner it touching the shooter and without warning sprints away. The shooter then has to draw and put two rounds center mass before the runner makes it to 21 feet. It gave way to something called The 21 Foot Rule with regards to how an officer interacts with a suspect armed with a melee weapons, most commonly a knife. The 21 Foot Rule has come under fire in recent years because it's been warped by some to mean you need to shoot any armed suspect that comes within 21 feet of an officer. The consensus of law enforcement professionals is that this thinking is a gross distortion.

On average it takes a person 0.5-6 to react to a change in a situation. So even with weapon draw, there is still a reactionary gap. Environmental distraction, BAR fucking with your motorskills, and the like all increase that gap. In the picture the officer looks like he was 10-15 feet from the troon. He smartly placed a barrier between himself and the potential threat. The article doesn't state and the picture doesn't show how many officers were on scene. There is no way I'd try to taze an armed, non-compliant individual who was obviously not in normal state of mind. The story makes it obvious he was trying to provoke the officer and it wasn't all some sort of misunderstanding.

If there were multiple officers maybe they could have had one distracting while another moved in to taze. I don't know. I wouldn't have tried if I were the cop's position, but I'm also not a police officer. The troon had the potential to wound the officer in a second or less from the picture in my opinion. And, that may not even be the closest the officer allowed him to advance. It's extremely easy to question police shootings if you are unfamiliar with shooting and defensive shooting in particular. It doesn't help that some police, and even whole departments, Rambo shit up like that's their job. It seems to me like a good shoot based on the evidence at hand.

edit: Didn't the video before I posted. So there were at least two officers on scene. It looks like the female officer who fired was ~10-15 feet away when she did. She is behind the tree, so it's a little hard to tell. He was advancing when she fired.

Also, nice blyats Ivan. He surely was.
 
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I'm just curious how big does the knife have to be before you consider it a threat?

Oh and do tell me about how you would have disarmed them with the Kung Fu moves you learned from watching Anime.

Even the smallest blades can cut throats. If I had a lunatic walking towards me yelling for me to shoot him while brandishing a knife and ignoring warnings I'd shoot him or her or it regardless of gender or size.
 
Even the smallest blades can cut throats. If I had a lunatic walking towards me yelling for me to shoot him while brandishing a knife and ignoring warnings I'd shoot him or her or it regardless of gender or size.
Sounds like he had a Leatherman or similar multi-tool.

Those things generally have blades of at least 3 inches and are almost always serrated.

I sure as hell wouldn't want someone slashing at me with one.

The same thing happened about 2 years ago in California when some guy by his friend's own admission was waving his knife around to scare tourists before being shot by the police. The lilly white liberal crowd latched onto the fact it was a Swiss Army knife and started posting pictures of the key chain model.

The knife he actually had was the One Handed Trekker which is the same knife issued to the German and Austrian Army. It's big and it's sharp.
 
Sounds like he had a Leatherman or similar multi-tool.

Those things generally have blades of at least 3 inches and are almost always serrated.

I sure as hell wouldn't want someone slashing at me with one.

The same thing happened about 2 years ago in California when some guy by his friend's own admission was waving his knife around to scare tourists before being shot by the police. The lilly white liberal crowd latched onto the fact it was a Swiss Army knife and started posting pictures of the key chain model.

The knife he actually had was the One Handed Trekker which is the same knife issued to the German and Austrian Army. It's big and it's sharp.

I've seen some pretty gnarly injuries inflicted from ghetto prison shanks, and they tend to break after a few stabs/slashes at most. Even with superior training, experience and athleticism, it's a terrible idea to go hands on with someone with virtually any manufactured blade.
 
Even the smallest blades can cut throats. If I had a lunatic walking towards me yelling for me to shoot him while brandishing a knife and ignoring warnings I'd shoot him or her or it regardless of gender or size.

Even a box cutter can kill you. I also don't particularly like suicide by cop shitheads. If you're going to kill yourself, man the fuck up and do it yourself. Don't put that on some other guy who then has to live with it the rest of his life.

Still there are nonlethal options about as good at putting someone on the ground. I'm not going to judge it without seeing everything there is to be seen. Maybe they weren't properly equipped or maybe it wasn't practical to try. Still, any time someone gets killed there should be a review of what happened and if there was a way to avoid it, that should become policy.
 
The zombie like movements are unnerving, wonder what drugs he was on. How selfish and cowardly of him to force someone's hand into doing for him what he could never do himself. He could have quietly ODed in the woods or some shit, but no, he had to traumatize everyone on campus instead.

Thank his enabling dumbshit of a dad. His son troons out and commits suicide by cop and all he has to say is some dumbfuck antifa shit.
 
Even a box cutter can kill you. I also don't particularly like suicide by cop shitheads. If you're going to kill yourself, man the fuck up and do it yourself. Don't put that on some other guy who then has to live with it the rest of his life.

I wanted to add this as well. It's complete bullshit to subject someone else to the possibility of PTSD, a lengthy investigation and suspension (paid suspension after a police-involved shooting during the investigation is SOP for most police agencies in North America) and, in this day and age, the mob of virtue-signalling, reactionary anti-cop tards, when one could just jump off a bridge, overdose, hang or shoot themselves instead. There is no reason to drag a random stranger into it (unless this idiot was trying to make themselves into a martyr in the eyes of other morons, but that obviously doesn't mitigate my ethical objections).

Still there are nonlethal options about as good at putting someone on the ground.

No dude. With respect, nonlethal options are nowhere near as reliable as firearms when it comes to dealing with a subject armed with a knife.

OC spray isn't karate in a can and is totally unpredictable. It's good at stunning or panicking some subjects, but others are virtually immune to it or even get enraged and more dangerous, aggressive and violent. Cross-contamination is also nearly inevitable.

Tasers will incapacitate a subject reliably...but that's if, and only if, both prongs connect properly...which is surprisingly difficult and unpredictable with a subject advancing towards the officer.

Go hands on, with or without a baton, and you're nearly guaranteed to get cut.

I can say that if a subject advanced towards me with a knife and I had all of the tools available to the best equipped officers in North America, I'd still shoot them. And generally speaking (of course all situations must be evaluated on their own merits but I'm speaking broadly), that's how law enforcement are trained, it's legally acceptable, and it's frankly the smartest thing to do.

I'm not going to judge it without seeing everything there is to be seen. Maybe they weren't properly equipped or maybe it wasn't practical to try. Still, any time someone gets killed there should be a review of what happened and if there was a way to avoid it, that should become policy.

There absolutely should be review of all fatal use of force incidents, police should be held accountable if there is wrongdoing, and best practices should be adopted. With that said, given the dynamic nature of use of force situations, policy shouldn't be too restricting to the point where it makes police officers second guess themselves in potentially lethal situations. Watch the Dinkheller video to see what happens when the confidence of police to use adequate force is undermined (he had been reprimanded over use of force shortly before that incident).
 
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