Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.

[FinnSven]

I certainly don't think the Greeks and Trojans would wage war of a near boyish looking black woman

Of course not.

They had plenty of actual young boys to sodomize.
A black woman wouldn’t have the same zing to it.

Why do they have ruin the legends and lore of ancient Europe? It's deliberate.

Because they want to believe the utter shit that Europe has always been as “diverse” as today’s London.

Europe, outside of the major western and northern cities is still lily white.
(Well, olive in the southern European countries but you get what I mean)

 

[Pig Cups]

The film looks pretty solid, it would definitely feel immersive and make you really feel like ancient Greece.

What the fuck are you smoking, nigger? The Odyssey is one of the greatest epics ever written, and this looks like absolute dogshit.

It’s obvious from the trailer that this is going to be another mostly green screen/CGI abomination, much like Poseidon (2006) was. The costumes look atrocious- like the wardrobe department did all of their shopping at Spirit Halloween. The overindulgence of talent (Damon/Zendaya/Holland/Pattinson/Hathaway/Theron) is also a red flag- the best movies I’ve seen have 1-2 A-listers max, a small handful of mid actors, and a lot of nobodies. I was glad to see that many in the comments also picked up on the piss poor writing:
>”LET’S GOOO!!!” (1:23)
>”My DAD is coming home.” (1:15)

Not father? Seriously?? When around male actors, they’ll put this dinky little pooner in specially-designed lifted shoes, like the ones used by the actors in Orphan: First Kill (2022) to make Isabelle Fuhrman look smaller.


The casting of Helen of Troy as a black woman is bad enough, but trying to pass Ellen off as a manly man, as well as acting as if what she stands for is something to be respected, is such a *gross insult* to my intelligence that I wouldn’t even watch a pirated copy of this one as a joke, let alone put a cent towards it at a theater. Sometimes, I’ll see a movie that I know is going to suck so incredibly bad because there’s occasionally humor to be found within the suck. But this is such garbage that I can’t even do that. I’ll just wait for the clips here ITT…that’s good enough for me.

 

[honse]

We went from Homer's Odyssey to Homo's Oddity

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

The Ellen Page/Achilles thing is absurd, but the black woman/Helen of Troy is much worse.
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You expect me to believe multiple armies go to war with each other for 10+ years over this?

more like Helen of Detroit

soldier: "DAS RIIIIIIITE"

 

[Incecticyder]

She was absolutely the pinnacle of Greek beauty, though.

She WAS very pretty but she also had a big nose like the rest of her family. Perhaps she had the kind of face that was very iconic and beautiful BECAUSE of the imperfections.

 

[Clotso Coof]

Let people see how great she can play a heccin' masculine Marvel hero Achilles, it'll be a an easy sell to get the Conan the Poonarian script approved.
One step closer.

One more step with Nolan's Odyssey casting.
One small step for lil dood, one giant leap for Conan the Poonarian.

 

[DickMain]

But it looks like Nolan's Odyssey is supposed to be fantastical and stylized anyway, being a modern artsy fartsy reimagining.

Snyder already made art with 300 though. Nolan is a HACK

 

[PetiteFeet]

One more step with Nolan's Odyssey casting.
One small step for lil dood, one giant leap for Conan the Poonarian.

I want to believe. Maybe it'll return @Procrastinhater to the fold.

 

[Snack Cracker]

The Ellen Page/Achilles thing is absurd, but the black woman/Helen of Troy is much worse.
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You expect me to believe multiple armies go to war with each other for 10+ years over this?

Unpopular opinion but she has beautiful bone structure and even smooth skin, fully admitting however that casting her isn’t historically accurate at all.

 

[Julie Newmar]

Unpopular opinion but she has beautiful bone structure and even smooth skin, fully admitting however that casting her isn’t historically accurate at all.

Yeah, like I know I’m a minority in this, but I find her massively hot. But she’s not Helen of Troy.

 

[BrainSand63]

Unpopular opinion but she has beautiful bone structure and even smooth skin, fully admitting however that casting her isn’t historically accurate at all.

Yeah, like I know I’m a minority in this, but I find her massively hot. But she’s not Helen of Troy.

I was just making a joke about her being black, don’t take it too seriously

 

[Zaryiu2]

Can page even lift a sword? I imagine her just
lifting one and immediately falling sideways like a cartoon.

It also matches someone full of regret over their rash decision to care more about their image and how their remembered then the quality of their life...wait a minute is nolen based?

There was also that time Achilles dressed as a woman... although that was as a disguise, in Skyros fell in love with one of the princesses and then ended up going to Troy. So meh, not a tranny in the eyes of someone sane but 100 percent a tranny in the usual suspects eyes

There is a joke to be made that Nolan found his Archille's Heel to kill his movie.

Also, woke bullshit aside out of all the black women on Earth he picks her to be the woman whose beauty started a war. I'm not saying she's ugly but come on you're not going to war for her damn I wouldn't go to Harlem for her.

Well maybe he's going with the later made up by certwin ancient Greeks that "Ackthually, Helen was taken to Egypt", i shit you not there was that kind of coping that way at one point in antiquity

You know who is rolling in his grave? Alexander the Great

 

[Armitage]

I don't even think any of the casting is really an issue. Is it how I would imagine it and what I would prefer? No. But it is nowhere near the worst thing of the film, much worse is the dialogue using terms like 'dad' or 'let's go', it just is not fitting for a film that is supposed to be an epic and what is probably just as terrible is the drab and soulless look and feel of the trailers. If I did not know the source material, I would have never guessed it was set in the Mediterranean, there are no vibrant colors, the customs are dull, the locations are boring and look like northern Europe in many cases

 

[Julie Newmar]

I don't even think any of the casting is really an issue. Is it how I would imagine it and what I would prefer? No. But it is nowhere near the worst thing of the film, much worse is the dialogue using terms like 'dad' or 'let's go', it just is not fitting for a film that is supposed to be an epic and what is probably just as terrible is the drab and soulless look and feel of the trailers. If I did not know the source material, I would have never guessed it was set in the Mediterranean, there are no vibrant colors, the customs are dull, the locations are boring and look like northern Europe in many cases

Also, didja catch the part where a 5’1” 106 lb woman is playing Achilles?

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Thought experiment: Ellen Page makes sense as Achilles if he's (Achilles is) a ghost - one might think a ghost could be pale and withered, even the antithesis of its living self.

And I found someone with a similar line of thought:

The key thing about Achilles in The Odyssey, as opposed to his grandeur in the Iliad, is that he’s been undone by death. He appears among the gibbering, blood-streaked ghosts that crowd around the living and beg for a taste of their lost existence.

Achilles in The Odyssey is therefore the drained shadow of an unmade non-man, yearning for the time when he was real and alive. His power sapped, he bitterly regrets the trade-off he made by dying young in exchange for immortal fame. “I would rather be a serf and till a poor man’s field,” his ghost says to Odysseus, “than rule among all the dead in their decay.” It’s part of Homer’s greatness that he both celebrates the glory of martial valor and undercuts it with this harrowing image of what happens even to the proudest fighters after they are slain: they turn into empty specters, grieving the loss of their former selves.

They behave, in other words, a lot like those poor souls who go through gender transition and regret it, wishing they could recover the vitality of their natural bodies. If this is what Nolan has in mind by casting Page as Achilles, assuming he’s actually done so at all, it could serve as a daring commentary on the dark side of this industry.

 

[Toxic BRAAAAP Mask]

Yeah but we all know it's because Achilles is th go-to for tumblr girlies to write gay mythology fanfic about, which then became pooner fanfic. The Wilson translation of the Odyssey emphasizes Achilles as a butt pirate because she's a dickhungry millennial. Why Nolan used her version is beyond me because it's lauded as the exact opposite of how to translate classical works among non-woke academia, no that there's much of that left.

 

[PetiteFeet]

"unmade non-man" goes so fucking HARD lol.

 

[Pomniman]

Please let this be true. Its so monumentally insane that I almost cannot believe that it will come to pass.

I want to believe.

In the bygone era of the Greek dark ages, the world of men knew the WRATH of a dood.

It's not even that cuhrayzeeee to pretentiously bastardize a classic for the heccin' modern age, this kind of shit was done to death by Hollywood starting from the late 90s/early 00s with Titus (1999) probably being the most amusing attempt from that early batch. If anything Nolan's showing how much of a crusty old out of touch faggot he is by rewarming turn of the millennium postmodern filmmaking cringe 25 years too late for it to even be a novelty anymore.

 

[Spooky Space Kook]

Maybe I have judged Nolan too positively. Maybe his Batman films aren't as good as I remember them because holy fuck does the Odyssey look like shit. Ellen Page is like that British chick from the star wars sequels, she has no emotion and her only facial expression is having her mouth open and looking like she got lost trying to look for her car in the Bucees parking lot.

 

[Plus Size Polka]

The one Nolan Batman film with Lockjaw, or whatever that villain was, couldn’t decide if it operated with cartoon rules or real world rules and it didn’t make sense.

I’ll pass on a film that turns Achilles into Gollum.