UN Venezuela Megathread - Mercenaries 2 references galore! Cubanodun is MVP

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It's honestly more likely that Delcy and Diosdado sold him out to roach the fuck out. Because just as this happened, at the same minute COINCIDENTALLY both Diosdado and Delcy fled to Russia. It's not a coincidence, those motherfuckers finally showed even the dumbest churro'd nigger that they're willing to sacrifice even themselves to save their own skin.
I have been going with my family to party meetings just to eavesdrop and went to talk with my cousins that work in the local Mayor office to see what are the orders that came from Caracas and i really confused since the dead of chavez

By the opposition part

  1. There is a huge wave of optimism about it but also dread because Delcy has said repeatedly they are not going to leave power BUT
  2. The declarations of Trump and Marco Rubio made them believe that Maria Corina is not going to be the CIA asset they want but someone else
  3. There is also this weird fact that if Trump wanted to dismantle our drug trafficking infrastructure he needed to pick Diosdado not Maduro, Maduro is a worthless asset that has no information and no value except being a figurehead
Then comes the Chavizmo part, this is the funniest one

  1. They are absolute horrified that Maduro is gone and are asking questions if they are going to be next BUT
  2. They also found incredibly strange that they only picked Maduro and no one else even when is was technically possible because the army was more panicking that doing their job
  3. Then comes the part where they believe the rest of the Chavizmo that remained sold Maduro and all of them are CIA assets, their belief goes like this, they wanted a way to get amnesty without actually getting it, so by selling out Maduro they could force a transition and they leave unscathed so America can put their CIA asset may be Machado may be someone else

So we are in the phase that both sides hate the main Chavizmo one for being commies and the other for being CIA assets that sold Maduro to not serve prison time
 
You can negrate him all you want he still made me lose my sides
redditors and groypers always have the darnest shit takes about venezuela

they want but someone else
makes total sense they don't trust anyone from the MUD ever again, Trump must have way waaaay harsher opinions against MCM and Edmundo (literally chaves embassador and a socialist) than he lets on in public, specially after what all of them did during the Guaido fiasco . Mud is also way closer to Trump's internal enemies and were always more comfortable talking to democrats as well as the european left, Maricori is like banana kamala harris, a progressive center left thats way cozy with people who have scammed Trump in the past. She can kiss ass as much as she wants but can't ever erase or backtrack.





On the realpolitik side it makes sense to negotiate with chavistas since they at least command autorithy over militarey regiments while the MUD are more worthless than internet influencers and their power extends to tweets and thoughts and prayers.

So we are in the phase that both sides hate the main Chavizmo one for being commies and the other for being CIA assets that sold Maduro to not serve prison time
We are in psy ops season, could the official communications be looking to cause an internal schism ? i don't know. Its never worked so good so far. Chavismo has their internal strife but all of them are smart enough to know that they all go down with the ship

We might end up with the USA forcing a transition to something none of us is even anticipating. Maybe a third party firgure like Lorenzo Mendoza, a bussinessman whose family always been in bed with whatever administration is running the country but could serve as mediator that isn't exactly blue or red chavismo. Thats as much as i am going to schizopost for now.
 
We might end up with the USA forcing a transition to something none of us is even anticipating. Maybe a third party firgure like Lorenzo Mendoza, a bussinessman whose family always been in bed with whatever administration is running the country but could serve as mediator that isn't exactly blue or red chavismo. Thats as much as i am going to schizopost for now.
I think the main reason of that narrative is that the Chavizmo that is left is unusually calm, granted they are doing the propaganda and all the stuff but Trump declarations about Venezuela being a not official american colony (not like the average venezuela care about those things) say a lot, they are so unusually calm even when you know the president of the country got kidnapped, they are treating his arrest as a annoyance more than a actual crisis

Even the military is showing a stupid bravado demanding Maduro to be returned. ignoring the fact that there are videos with soldiers escaping Fort Tiuna in a panic and they even abandoned their outposts and weapons, also the reports of casualties are the all Cuban security forces he had because Maduro did not trust his own army

This odd calm that did not even happen when Chavez died says a lot, the cabinet sold him out in exchange of amnesty, now the question is who is going to be the CIA asset that will replace Maduro

Edit: also someone just send me a whatsapp telling me "is more unusual that Diosdado and Padrino are following Delcy orders, they hate her and his stupid brother for being loud mouths that only use was bark"
 
The same Dark Rituals that gave Chavez his position were used again. Maduro was sacrificed politically and metaphysically, we know this to be true since Chavez mausoleum got blow up. Maduro was wrung dry of Churro grease, and that grease was feed back to the party. They can now walk calm, having gained another 12 years of plot armor. I don't know what will happen next, but I know one thing, Chavismo will remain in power.

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It's honestly more likely that Delcy and Diosdado sold him out to roach the fuck out. Because just as this happened, at the same minute COINCIDENTALLY both Diosdado and Delcy fled to Russia. It's not a coincidence, those motherfuckers finally showed even the dumbest churro'd nigger that they're willing to sacrifice even themselves to save their own skin.
IDK. They were going to flee to Cuba or Russia anyway.
 
I think the main reason of that narrative is that the Chavizmo that is left is unusually calm, granted they are doing the propaganda and all the stuff but Trump declarations about Venezuela being a not official american colony (not like the average venezuela care about those things) say a lot, they are so unusually calm even when you know the president of the country got kidnapped, they are treating his arrest as a annoyance more than a actual crisis

Even the military is showing a stupid bravado demanding Maduro to be returned. ignoring the fact that there are videos with soldiers escaping Fort Tiuna in a panic and they even abandoned their outposts and weapons, also the reports of casualties are the all Cuban security forces he had because Maduro did not trust his own army

This odd calm that did not even happen when Chavez died says a lot, the cabinet sold him out in exchange of amnesty, now the question is who is going to be the CIA asset that will replace Maduro

Edit: also someone just send me a whatsapp telling me "is more unusual that Diosdado and Padrino are following Delcy orders, they hate her and his stupid brother for being loud mouths that only use was bark"
I've read the airspace restrictions got lifted so a suddent attack seems less likely now, in that same interview Rubio said they are negotiating terms with chavistas who are in charge of the armed foreces and police and giving them some time to "do whats right" whatever that means, very hard to say specially from the american point of view (which might be very different from what we want as venezuelans to happen)

I wouldn't worry about what the chavista party line is, that said, if you are in venezuela don't be stupid because they are still very much in charge and raiding people who open their big mouths. From our point of view little is changed from a week ago. Keep your family safe and try to keep a low profile, things might get very dirty,
 
It honestly looks like a deal was made. Fighting state armed Chavista gangs and all that won't arise in that case as they're regime agents who will probably get a mild refresh so they look True and Honest democrats. Perhaps all that happened was that Mr and Mrs Maduro were grabbed, with some degree of betrayal so the new Chavista boss will be less objectionable and Trump pockets a cheap win. There are claims Putin betrayed Maduro in return for or hope that Trump gives him a free hand in Ukraine. Cannot find anyone of standing supporting the claims barring some literal whos doing the 'trust me bro' thing.
Sure Russia helps but the big player was cuba. Trump was saying Delta intercepted maduro while he was running to his saferoom. assuming its not an embellishment (from trump or delta), there's certainly questions about how the us was able to accomplish this in 3 hours with little us casualties without the help of a venezuelan snitch who is being monitored by cuban intelligence agents.
 
I can understand why there’d be no belief in anything happening. 99 times out of 100, nothing does.

Warning: long, meandering bullshit ahead
However, I’m not sure there’s a true appreciation for what the full might of American Capitalism™️ via oil companies can bring. Now it may not materially improve conditions in the short term, but oil executives don’t just set up shop with a bunch of engineering nerds. There are lucrative contracts for private security companies like Blackwater that come along for the ride. I’m sure all of this was mapped out and contracts signed shortly after Trump’s inauguration. And I’m guessing many of these operatives have been on the ground eyeballing the old operations and getting ready to move in the event some dirty fucking commie thinks about sabotaging our oil equipment for months now.

What has changed is that Trump had downtime to stew and plan what he would do when he got back in office. Venezuela was on that list. He is backing the oil companies using their vast wealth to “bring Democracy™️ 🇺🇸🦅” Our oil companies won’t move on their own if it contradicts American foreign policy and their shenanigans typically take place in shitholes in the other hemisphere where we can pretend we don’t know what’s going on.

This is different. They have Trump openly backing them. And they have more money and private security forces than most nations on the planet.

All of this is to say, between our oil companies, our glowniggers, our private security forces, and a thumbs up from Trump, not a single person currently “holding power” will be able to relax for a second. Oil executives like stability. They like a populace that won’t vote in socialist niggers who steal their shit. And they especially fucking hate Venezuelan commies. Stability is paramount so today, and maybe for a month, maybe more, some asshole commie can pretend she has a say. We all know she doesn’t. She knows she doesn’t. Even my dog knows she doesn’t.

There will be someone they decide on eventually and they won’t be tolerant of even a whiff of “maybe we should seize the means of production or something.” They’ve been on this ride with Venezuelans and have been waiting to grind those commie niggers to dust ever since.

What that means for the average Venezuelan, who knows? At the very least I think it’s comical to believe our oil companies would even consider spending a few more billion down there if there wasn’t set in stone backing from the administration. But people always think that means our uniformed troops or “boots on the ground.” It does not.

One of the things that really flourished and grew out of our Middle East debacle was our private military contractors. They are not shitty gangbangers on motorcycles annoying the locals selling shit on the street. They are professional militaries employing the same people that just black bagged Maduro, “former” military intelligence, and highly trained technical specialists. Equipped with the best equipment oil company money can buy.

American “boots” will continue to be parked off the coasts, picking off vultures and ensuring Democracy™️ can take hold while the private contractors work with the glowniggers and their assets to get a reliable, American oil company friendly leader in place. One that will make sure that Venezuela is stable (meaning commies don’t get to agitate inside our God ordained backyard), and economically viable enough that the United States doesn’t need to prop it up forever. They will not be losing their investment a second time.

It surprises me that people still think American Imperialism is military. We do have an excellent military machine. But there is a reason Trump didn’t (and never will) offer our military troops to Ukraine. He offered American commerce. Luckily enough, there’s a whole bunch of private security forces that work hand in hand with American commerce. Our troops keep their hands clean, money is made, commies are purged, God smiles.

Let’s hope that someday, you’ll be telling your fat spoiled grandkids you were there when something happened.
 
I can understand why there’d be no belief in anything happening. 99 times out of 100, nothing does.
no one has ever doubted american capability to carry out military operations, is everything that comes after were you have a dogshit track record


Sure Russia helps but the big player was cuba. Trump was saying Delta intercepted maduro while he was running to his saferoom. assuming its not an embellishment (from trump or delta), there's certainly questions about how the us was able to accomplish this in 3 hours with little us casualties without the help of a venezuelan snitch who is being monitored by cuban intelligence agents.
Giving the middle finger to Iran , Cuba, Russia and China must be the first concern of the USA right now, not drugs or any other talking point. Chavismo has no ideological base left, they really just want to stay rich and in power, the rethoric and allegiances are only a means to an end so them playing ball to a new sheriff in town in change for amnesty is not wild but also it would be dumb to trust them no matter how many concessions they make.

I have said many times that even if a military force went in and overthrew the Venezuelan dictator, within 1 election cycle the idiots would vote for socialism again. Because Latam.
there's nothing else to vote in Venezuelan case, all of the parties are forming a cartel and in accord since 1958 to ban right win dissent. There's been several points in history were a right wing candidate would have had a shot at winning but wasn't allowed to run, including the deposed Marcos Perez Jimenez which even as he was ousted had a very big rate of popular approval.
 
is everything that comes after were you have a dogshit track record
Europe and Japan would disagree. Although the West still doesn’t seem to have learned that no matter what anyone does, Muslims will always be a plague to themselves and everything they come in contact with. There is no civilizing them. They only understand the boot.
 
Bloomberg iirc reported a CIA asset inside of the venezuelan part of his security circle sold him out, so someone got very rich yesterday

In other news we are so ready for Lord Regent Marco Rubio regime

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Europe and Japan would disagree. Although the West still doesn’t seem to have learned that no matter what anyone does, Muslims will always be a plague to themselves and everything they come in contact with. There is no civilizing them. They only understand the boot.

That's exactly why I believe that argument has merit. Because the average venezuelan too is very brown and "echaito palante"
 
The same Dark Rituals that gave Chavez his position were used again. Maduro was sacrificed politically and metaphysically, we know this to be true since Chavez mausoleum got blow up. Maduro was wrung dry of Churro grease, and that grease was feed back to the party. They can now walk calm, having gained another 12 years of plot armor. I don't know what will happen next, but I know one thing, Chavismo will remain in power.

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Delcy doesn't seem too interested in cooperating and as a result Trump has made dark threats that the Chavistas should take seriously.

“If Delcy Rodríguez doesn’t do the right thing, what happens to her will be much worse than what happened to Maduro.”
source archive (Michael Sellers substack) / original link

Trump's plan of 'running' Venezuela is for Rubio just guiding it externally, but Trump does what he wants. I suppose Delcy has a choice of ranting about yanqui imperialists in some hostile courtroom, or doing whatever provided it doesn't displease 47. All the socialist windbags supporting her have exactly zero ability to help her. Denouncing Trump at the UN will stop him for sure.
 
https://www.horndiplomat.com/somali...to-restore-constitutional-order-in-venezuela/ /

Somaliland, the breakaway from Somalia recently recognised by Israel, endorses the US effort to restore 'constitutional order' to Venezuela. Somaliland has been probably the most effective breakaway from Somalia and is in an utterly strategic spot to allow Israel to thump Houthis, provides a de facto sea outlet for Ethiopia, but wants to be more than a replacement for Eritrea (a rival to DPRK in the dictator paranoia stakes), the former Italian colony that was once Ethiopia's sea outlet.
 
https://www.horndiplomat.com/somali...to-restore-constitutional-order-in-venezuela/ /

Somaliland, the breakaway from Somalia recently recognised by Israel, endorses the US effort to restore 'constitutional order' to Venezuela. Somaliland has been probably the most effective breakaway from Somalia and is in an utterly strategic spot to allow Israel to thump Houthis, provides a de facto sea outlet for Ethiopia, but wants to be more than a replacement for Eritrea (a rival to DPRK in the dictator paranoia stakes), the former Italian colony that was once Ethiopia's sea outlet.
Smart move on their part to cozy up to Trump. With Israel already having done it there's cover for Trump to give them official diplomatic recognition.
 
https://www.horndiplomat.com/somali...to-restore-constitutional-order-in-venezuela/ /

Somaliland, the breakaway from Somalia recently recognised by Israel, endorses the US effort to restore 'constitutional order' to Venezuela. Somaliland has been probably the most effective breakaway from Somalia and is in an utterly strategic spot to allow Israel to thump Houthis, provides a de facto sea outlet for Ethiopia, but wants to be more than a replacement for Eritrea (a rival to DPRK in the dictator paranoia stakes), the former Italian colony that was once Ethiopia's sea outlet.
Not just thump Hothis but they have purportedly offered for Palestinian resettlement.
 
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